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Posted: 1/15/2022 7:11:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/15/2022 7:19:51 PM EDT
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I need a few of these.
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Posted: 1/15/2022 7:20:19 PM EDT
[#3]
Man; the exact thing I wished they’d do… Outstanding
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Posted: 1/15/2022 7:24:12 PM EDT
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Crazy that when tommy triggers released them, they came up with one. I bet they're in tandem together
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Posted: 1/15/2022 7:30:02 PM EDT
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I like that guy. No homo.
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Posted: 1/15/2022 7:32:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/15/2022 7:48:04 PM EDT
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I better offload my 3 normal FRTs so I can get these.
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Posted: 1/15/2022 7:53:47 PM EDT
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So, did he buy out Tommy Triggers?
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Posted: 1/15/2022 7:56:08 PM EDT
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Was wondering if that first shot was going to remind him about his hearing protection. Been there, done that.
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Posted: 1/15/2022 7:58:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Crazy that when tommy triggers released them, they came up with one. I bet they're in tandem together Nah, they’re not. Here’s what Lawrence wrote when he posted about it… “I wasn’t going to post this for a while yet but now that Tommytriggers has made a 3-position forced reset trigger available today, I feel compelled to get this posted now. With all of the copying going on, the last thing I want is to have someone call us out for copying their trigger design. So here it is, the FRT-15E3. We’re through the design, development, and testing phases. We’re now in the middle of the pilot build and had planned to bring this to market in about 6 weeks. That’s still the plan but with Tommytriggers releasing theirs today, the cat’s out of the bag. So about the Tommytriggers design… I’ve called and spoken to Tom. He seems like a very nice gentleman and doesn’t feel as if his design infringes our patent. My team (including multiple patent attorneys) have taken a very close look at his design and feel it very much infringes our patent. I’ve requested a sit-down with him and his patent attorney to discuss the issue. Hopefully we’ll see eye to eye and be able to work something out. I’d really prefer to avoid additional litigation so that I can remain focused on our fight against the ATF/DOJ.” |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 8:29:12 PM EDT
[#11]
Is the customer list going to self destruct as soon as it ships?
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Posted: 1/15/2022 8:39:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the customer list going to self destruct as soon as it ships? My credit card will... |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 9:06:30 PM EDT
[#13]
any idea on the price?
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Posted: 1/15/2022 9:19:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: any idea on the price? Many, many times less than an M16. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 9:23:27 PM EDT
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I hope they prevail against the AFT.
I also hope the brace ban and 80% lower ban (if they go through) gets sued and falls apart. AR pistols on 80% (or 3D) lowers with 3 position FRT for EVERYONE! No more registration of anything! |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 9:27:08 PM EDT
[#16]
What kind of selector will you need with an E3?
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Posted: 1/15/2022 9:45:53 PM EDT
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Im buying on once it is released. That was the only thing stopping me from buying one was the lack of single shot without a shit ton of hassle.
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Posted: 1/15/2022 9:46:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: any idea on the price? Price point isn’t set yet |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 9:46:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What kind of selector will you need with an E3? It’ll come with a proprietary selector |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 9:54:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Man; the exact thing I wished they’d do… Outstanding This. This is what was stopping me from getting one. |
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Posted: 1/15/2022 10:07:30 PM EDT
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Who carrys these in store?
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Posted: 1/16/2022 11:31:10 AM EDT
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my concern is once i buy one and then the ATF raids them and gets customer records and now im forced to give up a $500 trigger.
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Posted: 1/16/2022 3:59:36 PM EDT
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But didn’t you sell it when you heard of the raid?? ???????
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Posted: 1/16/2022 4:26:45 PM EDT
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I’m often skeptical of the “next best thing,” but this really looks like a viable route to a plebeian full auto AR without significant functional compromises.
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Posted: 1/16/2022 6:29:39 PM EDT
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Curious about the design.
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Posted: 1/16/2022 7:40:20 PM EDT
[#26]
Will absolutely buy.
Gift card from Walmart with a shipping address to a friend you semi sorta don't like. |
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Posted: 1/16/2022 9:13:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Curious about the design. I am also. More curious if the current 2-position version will be upgradeable via a simple parts swap to the new 3-position version. And at a reasonable price. |
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Posted: 1/16/2022 10:42:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am also. More curious if the current 2-position version will be upgradeable via a simple parts swap to the new 3-position version. And at a reasonable price. Yes! That would be awesome if we could upgrade the 2 position FRT 15 trigger. |
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Posted: 1/16/2022 10:54:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: my concern is once i buy one and then the ATF raids them and gets customer records and now im forced to give up a $500 trigger. Work out a trade deal with them? 
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Posted: 1/16/2022 11:32:39 PM EDT
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Cash purchase item for sure.
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Posted: 1/17/2022 9:23:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Work out a trade deal with them? By first asking if they are wearing level 4 plates. |
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Posted: 1/17/2022 11:38:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But didn’t you sell it when you heard of the raid?? ??????? I did. Was that wrong?? |
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Posted: 1/17/2022 1:33:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Crazy that when tommy triggers released them, they came up with one. I bet they're in tandem together Nope. Law and I talked about this before he made the videos. I’d bet Tommy triggers won’t be selling more of their FRT-15. |
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Posted: 1/17/2022 1:37:03 PM EDT
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I don't get the "cash purchase" thing. If you're willing to keep something that is declared an illegal machine gun, why not just make a real illegal machine gun?
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Posted: 1/17/2022 4:10:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't get the "cash purchase" thing. If you're willing to keep something that is declared an illegal machine gun, why not just make a real illegal machine gun? Easier to take a drop in trigger out and keep the said lower. Than have one that's got a hole above the selector position |
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Posted: 1/17/2022 4:39:01 PM EDT
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It'll coast along until somebody does a big shoot, then ATF will be all over it. No way in hell they'll let this slide.
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Posted: 1/17/2022 4:57:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't get the "cash purchase" thing. If you're willing to keep something that is declared an illegal machine gun, why not just make a real illegal machine gun? Well, the way I see it is that paying cash for it allows one to directly support the legal fund of a man that's actively giving the finger to the AFT while getting a fun product and keeping one's dog off the assassination list. |
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Posted: 1/17/2022 10:31:36 PM EDT
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Got on the email list today, can’t wait to try one. It looks like everything I had hoped the Franklin BFS would be but isn’t, finicky, eats springs I hardly use it anymore. Hopefully every now and then when you just feel the need for speed ! This thing lives up it
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Posted: 1/18/2022 9:07:09 AM EDT
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With the current BS with the ATF regarding the 2 position trigger, I can only see it getting worse with the 3 position. Don't get me wrong, I like the idea and hope to get one, but I feel that the uphill fight against the .gov just got a bit steeper.
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Posted: 1/18/2022 9:24:53 AM EDT
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Okay, so I saw the vid on the 2-position, which I'd never heard of, and sort of understand how it works.
What is the 3 position? |
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Posted: 1/18/2022 9:32:51 AM EDT
[#41]
This + the Franklin Glock 17 BFS III = expensive year.
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Posted: 1/18/2022 9:44:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/18/2022 10:36:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Okay, so I saw the vid on the 2-position, which I'd never heard of, and sort of understand how it works. What is the 3 position? Gives you a semi option. The current trigger is almost impossible to shoot semi because of the force reset. |
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Posted: 1/18/2022 12:10:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Okay, so I saw the vid on the 2-position, which I'd never heard of, and sort of understand how it works. What is the 3 position? Post #6 will answer your question. |
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Posted: 1/18/2022 12:39:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Post #6 will answer your question. Actually, no. He says he's going to the third position, thus my question. |
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Posted: 1/18/2022 1:14:49 PM EDT
[#46]
Ok... I want that
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Posted: 1/18/2022 1:38:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually, no. He says he's going to the third position, thus my question. The third safety position is forced reset. Position 1, safe. Position 2, fire. Postion 3, forced reset semi auto (in the same position as full auto for a M16). |
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Posted: 1/18/2022 3:59:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually, no. He says he's going to the third position, thus my question. The previous model was safe and forced reset mode. 2 positions (safe and fire) This model is safe, semi, and forced reset. 3 positions (safe, fire, forced reset) I could never get behind the 2 position model but this one looks promising. |
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Posted: 1/18/2022 5:04:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It'll coast along until somebody does a big shoot, then ATF will be all over it. No way in hell they'll let this slide. Besides the fact that the Hughes amendment and NFA and GCA are all unconstitutional violations of the 2nd, the reset trigger technically meets the letter of the law and is NOT a full auto, but a semi auto trigger. A reset of the trigger is required to fire. The law doesn't limit cyclic rates. Heck, you can bump fire from the shoulder with a stock semi-auto and no additional equipment at all. |
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Posted: 1/18/2022 9:08:16 PM EDT
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jaqufrost and Outrider,
Thanks. |
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