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Posted: 10/25/2018 9:57:12 AM EDT
Just mentioned wanting a di version of the Revolution .308 with an ar rail in another thread. Looks like POF is continuing with the innovation they've become known for.
Pending initial reviews, this will be bumped to the top of my list. [youtube]https://youtu.be/Be0b5Xsi1RA[/youtube] https://youtu.be/Be0b5Xsi1RA https://youtu.be/Be0b5Xsi1RA |
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6.8 lbs, will have pistol and 6.5c options.
Hope this brings the price down some. |
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A 6.8lb .308 chambered RLGS AR15 with standard height handguard rail, upper, ambi controls, and knob-adjustable gas system up front?
That's slick and exactly what people have been asking for. The pistols are going to be interesting as well. Suppressed 12.5" with SBA3 in 6.5 CM would be pretty sick. |
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Yup, lots of potential here, especially with suppressors. I am curious what the price difference will be if any. LWRC's piston 5.56s are about $1,000 more than their di model. (shrugs)
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I really interested. Wondering what street prices will look like.
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WOW! This is what I have been looking for. 6.5C weighing less than some of my ar15’s.
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It's about time! I don't know what they were thinking designing such a compact and potentially lightweight rifle, then putting a piston system on it. I was seriously considering buying one and attempting to build a DI upper for it.
ETA- I wish they had done away with the forward assist and put an 18-20" barrel on it. |
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It's about time! I don't know what they were thinking designing such a compact and potentially lightweight rifle, then putting a piston system on it. I was seriously considering buying one and attempting to build a DI upper for it. ETA- I wish they had done away with the forward assist and put an 18-20" barrel on it. View Quote I am surprised they haven't offered 18 or 20" barrels yet, hopefully for the di at least, especially if they are chambering the Creedmore. Of course, the pistol options sound pretty sweet, too. And I would love a 14.5.................. |
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Vaporware.
I want videos of it running hard. Full auto, with some drum mags. Then I'll be colored impressed. Piston is a more surefire way of getting reliability. Straight gas, i would be concerned with pressure issues in the upper with it being downsized so much. Im really curious of the longevity of everything. Really awesome concept though. |
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Vaporware. I want videos of it running hard. Full auto, with some drum mags. Then I'll be colored impressed. Piston is a more surefire way of getting reliability. Straight gas, i would be concerned with pressure issues in the upper with it being downsized so much. Im really curious of the longevity of everything. Really awesome concept though. View Quote 55,000 psi for the .223 vs 62,000 for .308 doesn't sound too bad as far as the gas system goes. The rifles will come with a POF adjustable gas block. It would be interesting to know what the gas port size will be. The benefits of the di system seem to be less weight and fewer parts, leading to a simpler system. It also allows a lower profile rail to be used. I think the pressure issues you might be referring to are where we know the barrel's chamber wall, and possibly the extension are thinner to accomodate the larger diameter of the .308 cartridge. They are using some expensive unobtainium for the bolt, not sure about the extension. Their are some vids on youtube of Revolutions with multiple thousands of rounds. Time will tell, I'm not wealthy enough to be a beta tester, so I will wait a while. Like you said, bring on the vids, let's see what she can do. |
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Quoted: I think the pressure issues you might be referring to are where we know the barrel's chamber wall, and possibly the extension are thinner to accomodate the larger diameter of the .308 cartridge. They are using some expensive unobtainium for the bolt, not sure about the extension. Their are some vids on youtube of Revolutions with multiple thousands of rounds. Time will tell, I'm not wealthy enough to be a beta tester, so I will wait a while. Like you said, bring on the vids, let's see what she can do. View Quote I can see making a bolt and extension handle it, but I would be worried about the barrel with the types of steel we normally see and the carrier itself as well. I dont like prototype videos, because Im inclined to believe they put ALOT more effort into making the prototypes run. Effort than RARELY transfers over to the production line. I want to see that fat nerdy guy on youtube who does the meltdowns, run these, the GII, Revolution, and other shit. If only I had won that billion dollars, youd see me melting down everything. Then literally put the remnants in a smelter. Anyways, love seeing the innovation. |
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The thing runs and runs hard, trust me...pricing will be comparable to the Revolution piston setup, most likely cheaper. The thing drives nails. Release date December 15th. The Revolution rifle was in R&D for 4 years, the "bugs" have been ironed out. It runs in select fire, runs suppressed, runs select fire while suppressed. Its guaranteed MOA out of the box. The DI version is more of the same, only lighter. The recoil impulse in .308 with is similar to running an over gassed 5.56. The 6.5 Revolution DI is so soft shooting with the 20" set up the thing is scary. 1,200 yard shots are no problem. Bold statement I'm not afraid to make, the AR-15 is dead. We now have a completely ambidextrous Rifle that's the same size and weight as an AR-15 capable of 1,200 yard shots with ease. If you have a 12.5" 308 version with a suppressor, and a 20" 6.5 upper, that's all you'll ever need..period.
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I can't wait. I wanted to build a .308 Ar but now that this is coming, i'll just buy this one!
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love my piston Revolution. such an innovative design.feel of an AR15 until you stare at those big mags in the mag well :)
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December 15th, nice to have a date, (unless it doesn't happen). There should be some user reviews by Shot Show.
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[youtube]https://youtu.be/dmHPgL12BC0[/youtube]
[youtube]https://youtu.be/dmHPgL12BC0dmHPgL12BC0[/youtube] https://youtu.be/dmHPgL12BC0 |
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FIRST LOOK: POF Goes Direct Impingement With All-New Revolution DI Rifle |
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View Quote Btw, Tony in the video is the one who said in an email they are still working on the PSG9mm, to watch for it next year. |
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A company that makes piston AR’s is considered innovative because they are adding direct impingement AR’s?
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A company that makes piston AR’s is considered innovative because they are adding direct impingement AR’s? View Quote The di ARs that POF and LWRCI added recently only makes sense. Most people aren't going to see the need, nor be willing to spend the extra money, for the piston gas system. Why miss out on those sales? |
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Thanks, not sure why I can't get that to work. Btw, Tony in the video is the one who said in an email they are still working on the PSG9mm, to watch for it next year. View Quote Quoted:
A company that makes piston AR’s is considered innovative because they are adding direct impingement AR’s? View Quote |
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A company that makes piston AR’s is considered innovative because they are adding direct impingement AR’s? View Quote I asked him about this at the Dallas Safari show, and again at the NRA show. Glad it's finally here. Guess I need to add more reinforcement to the Lego stock. |
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If you have a problem, their customer service is the worst based on my experience.
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I’ve owned - five? - P308 rifles and based on my experience, the listed weight likely excludes the weight of the brake and stock that come with the rifle. DI Revolution probably weighs ~7.3 lbs from the factory. Still a very appealing rifle.
ETA: I’ll post an example of a current model, the P308 Edge 16.5”. About a 10.4oz “discrepancy.” Still own and love my P308. Chose it over a SCAR17. Attached File Attached File |
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I’ve owned - five? - P308 rifles and based on my experience, the listed weight likely excludes the weight of the brake and stock that come with the rifle. DI Revolution probably weighs ~7.3 lbs from the factory. Still a very appealing rifle. ETA: I’ll post an example of a current model, the P308 Edge 16.5”. About a 10.4oz “discrepancy.” Still own and love my P308. Chose it over a SCAR17. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/421435/2CB756F9-7EE4-40AC-964C-7CAEB496934A_jpeg-727201.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/421435/D2673570-E516-4571-A655-374A53765481_jpeg-727198.JPG View Quote |
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Quoted: The thing runs and runs hard, trust me...pricing will be comparable to the Revolution piston setup, most likely cheaper. The thing drives nails. Release date December 15th. The Revolution rifle was in R&D for 4 years, the "bugs" have been ironed out. It runs in select fire, runs suppressed, runs select fire while suppressed. Its guaranteed MOA out of the box. The DI version is more of the same, only lighter. The recoil impulse in .308 with is similar to running an over gassed 5.56. The 6.5 Revolution DI is so soft shooting with the 20" set up the thing is scary. 1,200 yard shots are no problem. Bold statement I'm not afraid to make, the AR-15 is dead. We now have a completely ambidextrous Rifle that's the same size and weight as an AR-15 capable of 1,200 yard shots with ease. If you have a 12.5" 308 version with a suppressor, and a 20" 6.5 upper, that's all you'll ever need..period. View Quote |
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The thing runs and runs hard, trust me...pricing will be comparable to the Revolution piston setup, most likely cheaper. The thing drives nails. Release date December 15th. The Revolution rifle was in R&D for 4 years, the "bugs" have been ironed out. It runs in select fire, runs suppressed, runs select fire while suppressed. Its guaranteed MOA out of the box. The DI version is more of the same, only lighter. The recoil impulse in .308 with is similar to running an over gassed 5.56. The 6.5 Revolution DI is so soft shooting with the 20" set up the thing is scary. 1,200 yard shots are no problem. Bold statement I'm not afraid to make, the AR-15 is dead. We now have a completely ambidextrous Rifle that's the same size and weight as an AR-15 capable of 1,200 yard shots with ease. If you have a 12.5" 308 version with a suppressor, and a 20" 6.5 upper, that's all you'll ever need..period. View Quote Can you tell us what the actual weight of the rifle is, as shipped? |
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Odd, I had to use it with one of my rifles and they were excellent. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If you have a problem, their customer service is the worst based on my experience. I had a time-critical travel coming up within 48 hours of me picking up the lower. The LGS I used to transfer through must have lost the important ambi parts when they unboxed, because they were gone. I called up POF and Frank answered. I had the parts within 24hr and didn't miss a thing. This is my single sample size with POF's CS, which was excellent. |
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I will likely be buying this when it comes out. I have money burning a hole in my pocket for a new 308. Was considering the DD rifle but this thing looks so nice.
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Not listing the total weight would seem a bit disingenuous. While still lite, the 10oz discrepancy you show is quite a bit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I’ve owned - five? - P308 rifles and based on my experience, the listed weight likely excludes the weight of the brake and stock that come with the rifle. DI Revolution probably weighs ~7.3 lbs from the factory. Still a very appealing rifle. ETA: I’ll post an example of a current model, the P308 Edge 16.5”. About a 10.4oz “discrepancy.” Still own and love my P308. Chose it over a SCAR17. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/421435/2CB756F9-7EE4-40AC-964C-7CAEB496934A_jpeg-727201.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/421435/D2673570-E516-4571-A655-374A53765481_jpeg-727198.JPG |
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Apparently there's a fluted barrel version and a non-fluted version. The non-fluted is listed at 8.7 lbs, while the fluted barrel version is listed at 8.1 lbs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I’ve owned - five? - P308 rifles and based on my experience, the listed weight likely excludes the weight of the brake and stock that come with the rifle. DI Revolution probably weighs ~7.3 lbs from the factory. Still a very appealing rifle. ETA: I’ll post an example of a current model, the P308 Edge 16.5”. About a 10.4oz “discrepancy.” Still own and love my P308. Chose it over a SCAR17. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/421435/2CB756F9-7EE4-40AC-964C-7CAEB496934A_jpeg-727201.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/421435/D2673570-E516-4571-A655-374A53765481_jpeg-727198.JPG |
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Looks like POF has it up on their web page: https://pof-usa.com/firearms/revolution-di/. $2569.99 MSRP, so $100 cheaper than the regular Revolution.
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Looks great! Wish they would get rid of the short pic rail section on the 6 o'clock rail. Lots of mlok compatible bipods out now and you can always add a section if you need it.
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Looks great! Wish they would get rid of the short pic rail section on the 6 o'clock rail. Lots of mlok compatible bipods out now and you can always add a section if you need it. Interested to know what street prices will be. View Quote |
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https://www.ballisticmag.com/2018/10/31/pof-revolution-di-rifle-6-5-creedmoor/
Article on the di 6.5cm version. 20" barrel with a Magpul PRS stock. [URL=https://beta.photobucket.com/u/WatchoutforStobor/p/435b8928-b97c-43bf-9666-4087fe845dc6] |
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Apparently there's a fluted barrel version and a non-fluted version. The non-fluted is listed at 8.7 lbs, while the fluted barrel version is listed at 8.1 lbs. View Quote Attached File I’m afraid you’re mistaken about a Gen4 Edge with a fluted barrel. The only way to get a Gen4 “Edge” with a fluted barrel is if you already have a Gen4 and send in your upper to have the barrel nut and handguard replaced with the slimmer “Edge” handguard and nut. The difference in weight between non-fluted and fluted 16” barrels is 8oz. |
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Quoted: A fluted barrel version? You mean like this one? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/421435/1AFF1F2C-4255-4429-8B10-25BA078BBA06_jpeg-733213.JPG I’m afraid you’re mistaken about a Gen4 Edge with a fluted barrel. The only way to get a Gen4 “Edge” with a fluted barrel is if you already have a Gen4 and send in your upper to have the barrel nut and handguard replaced with the slimmer “Edge” handguard and nut. The difference in weight between non-fluted and fluted 16” barrels is 8oz. View Quote P308 Gen 4 Edge - Listed at 8.7 lbs P308 Gen 4 Edge fluted version - Listed at 8.1 lbs ps - I have no affiliation with Central Florida Gun and Tactical and have never done business with them; they just came up in a google search when I was entertaining the idea of a P308. |
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Quoted: Got it. I have no personal experience here; was just going off this: P308 Gen 4 Edge - Listed at 8.7 lbs P308 Gen 4 Edge fluted version - Listed at 8.1 lbs ps - I have no affiliation with Central Florida Gun and Tactical and have never done business with them; they just came up in a google search when I was entertaining the idea of a P308. View Quote |
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There is a retailer out of Florida that has the Revolution with an 18" barrel. Not sure how because I haven't seen POF mention an 18" for it anywhere.
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I have had the Revolution 16.5" gas piston since April of this year and just crossed the 1000+ round mark today. I definitely recommend the 3.5 lb flat trigger and a bi-pod. That being said I found this guns 1 major flaw today, the bolt hold open button design. I have pictures but don't know how to upload. It fell out and fortunately I was on a mat or else I may have not even noticed it because its so small. It's held on by a .0002 cent toothed washer that popped off and fortunately stayed in the lower until I got home and was able to dissemble and flip over for it to fall out. Thinking about trying to find a c ring as a replacement. I shoot Federal Premium gold medal Berger 185 grain juggernaut match rounds, may be a little to much for this little .308. Any thoughts?
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DAMNIT! I will be picking up my Revolution (gas piston) in less than a month when I get home for a little R&R. Nice to see a DI version...if the weight is true, 6.8 pounds is pretty remarkable. Once you add mount, optics, BUIS, and maybe a better stock system, it's still going to be quite manageable to both carry and shoot. Kudos for listening to the always-unsatisfied consumers!
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I have had the Revolution 16.5" gas piston since April of this year and just crossed the 1000+ round mark today. I definitely recommend the 3.5 lb flat trigger and a bi-pod. That being said I found this guns 1 major flaw today, the bolt hold open button design. I have pictures but don't know how to upload. It fell out and fortunately I was on a mat or else I may have not even noticed it because its so small. It's held on by a .0002 cent toothed washer that popped off and fortunately stayed in the lower until I got home and was able to dissemble and flip over for it to fall out. Thinking about trying to find a c ring as a replacement. I shoot Federal Premium gold medal Berger 185 grain juggernaut match rounds, may be a little to much for this little .308. Any thoughts? View Quote ROCK6 |
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