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Posted: 10/25/2018 9:57:12 AM EDT
Just mentioned wanting a di version of the Revolution .308 with an ar rail in another thread. Looks like POF is continuing with the innovation they've become known for.

Pending initial reviews, this will be bumped to the top of my list.

[youtube]https://youtu.be/Be0b5Xsi1RA[/youtube]

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Link Posted: 10/25/2018 10:09:45 AM EDT
[#1]
6.8 lbs, will have pistol and 6.5c options.

Hope this brings the price down some.
Link Posted: 10/25/2018 10:10:48 AM EDT
[#2]
Double.
Link Posted: 10/25/2018 10:42:11 AM EDT
[#3]
A 6.8lb .308 chambered RLGS AR15 with standard height handguard rail, upper, ambi controls, and knob-adjustable gas system up front?

That's slick and exactly what people have been asking for.

The pistols are going to be interesting as well.

Suppressed 12.5" with SBA3 in 6.5 CM would be pretty sick.
Link Posted: 10/25/2018 11:43:01 AM EDT
[#4]
Yup, lots of potential here, especially with suppressors. I am curious what the price difference will be if any. LWRC's piston 5.56s are about $1,000 more than their di model. (shrugs)
Link Posted: 10/25/2018 2:05:42 PM EDT
[#5]
Yes please.
Link Posted: 10/26/2018 6:42:17 PM EDT
[#6]
I really interested. Wondering what street prices will look like.
Link Posted: 10/26/2018 8:45:51 PM EDT
[#7]
Wonder when it's going to be released. Didn't watch the vid.
Link Posted: 10/26/2018 11:04:58 PM EDT
[#8]
interested
Link Posted: 10/27/2018 11:27:47 AM EDT
[#9]
WOW!  This is what I have been looking for.  6.5C weighing less than some of my ar15’s.
Link Posted: 10/27/2018 10:42:55 PM EDT
[#10]
Nice, very nice. All boxes checked on this. ETA???
Link Posted: 10/27/2018 11:28:22 PM EDT
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Don't know but I will post if I hear anything.
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 2:53:59 PM EDT
[#12]
It's about time!  I don't know what they were thinking designing such a compact  and potentially lightweight rifle, then putting a piston system on it.  I was seriously considering buying one and attempting to build a DI upper for it.

ETA- I wish they had done away with the forward assist and put an 18-20" barrel on it.
Link Posted: 10/28/2018 10:42:31 PM EDT
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It's about time!  I don't know what they were thinking designing such a compact  and potentially lightweight rifle, then putting a piston system on it.  I was seriously considering buying one and attempting to build a DI upper for it.

ETA- I wish they had done away with the forward assist and put an 18-20" barrel on it.
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Yes, not just the weight of the piston, but the tall, heavy and proprietary rail that POF loves.

I am surprised they haven't offered 18 or 20" barrels yet, hopefully for the di at least, especially if they are chambering the Creedmore. Of course, the pistol options sound pretty sweet, too. And I would love a 14.5..................
Link Posted: 10/30/2018 12:39:59 PM EDT
[#14]
Vaporware.

I want videos of it running hard. Full auto, with some drum mags. Then I'll be colored impressed.

Piston is a more surefire way of getting reliability. Straight gas, i would be concerned with pressure issues in the upper with it being downsized so much. Im really curious of the longevity of everything.

Really awesome concept though.
Link Posted: 10/30/2018 4:45:12 PM EDT
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Vaporware.

I want videos of it running hard. Full auto, with some drum mags. Then I'll be colored impressed.

Piston is a more surefire way of getting reliability. Straight gas, i would be concerned with pressure issues in the upper with it being downsized so much. Im really curious of the longevity of everything.

Really awesome concept though.
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Just a future product announcement for now, Frank never mentioned a release date. Too many companies over-promising their customers and leading to epic threads of disappointment. I would expect more info to trickle out over the next year. I've never seen a POF rifle in an lgs before, so only expect to hear of their availability via internet. Really hope it doesn't turn into a POF sg9 situation, although I've heard they are still working on it.

55,000 psi for the .223 vs 62,000 for .308 doesn't sound too bad as far as the gas system goes. The rifles will come with a POF adjustable gas block. It would be interesting to know what the gas port size will be. The benefits of the di system seem to be less weight and fewer parts, leading to a simpler system. It also allows a lower profile rail to be used.

I think the pressure issues you might be referring to are where we know the barrel's chamber wall, and possibly the extension are thinner to accomodate the larger diameter of the .308 cartridge. They are using some expensive unobtainium for the bolt, not sure about the extension. Their are some vids on youtube of Revolutions with multiple thousands of rounds. Time will tell, I'm not wealthy enough to be a beta tester, so I will wait a while.

Like you said, bring on the vids, let's see what she can do.
Link Posted: 10/30/2018 5:32:40 PM EDT
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I think the pressure issues you might be referring to are where we know the barrel's chamber wall, and possibly the extension are thinner to accomodate the larger diameter of the .308 cartridge. They are using some expensive unobtainium for the bolt, not sure about the extension. Their are some vids on youtube of Revolutions with multiple thousands of rounds. Time will tell, I'm not wealthy enough to be a beta tester, so I will wait a while.

Like you said, bring on the vids, let's see what she can do.
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Thats my concern. More so with the carrier itself, then second in line of worry is the chamber.

I can see making a bolt and extension handle it, but I would be worried about the barrel with the types of steel we normally see and the carrier itself as well. I dont like prototype videos, because Im inclined to believe they put ALOT more effort into making the prototypes run. Effort than RARELY transfers over to the production line.

I want to see that fat nerdy guy on youtube who does the meltdowns, run these, the GII, Revolution, and other shit. If only I had won that billion dollars, youd see me melting down everything. Then literally put the remnants in a smelter.

Anyways, love seeing the innovation.
Link Posted: 10/31/2018 12:44:25 PM EDT
[#17]
definitely interested
Link Posted: 11/2/2018 5:48:13 PM EDT
[#18]
The thing runs and runs hard, trust me...pricing will be comparable to the Revolution piston setup, most likely cheaper. The thing drives nails. Release date December 15th. The Revolution rifle was in R&D for 4 years, the "bugs" have been ironed out. It runs in select fire, runs suppressed, runs select fire while suppressed. Its guaranteed MOA out of the box. The DI version is more of the same, only lighter. The recoil impulse in .308 with is similar to running an over gassed 5.56. The 6.5 Revolution DI is so soft shooting with the 20" set up the thing is scary. 1,200 yard shots are no problem. Bold statement I'm not afraid to make, the AR-15 is dead. We now have a completely ambidextrous Rifle that's the same size and weight as an AR-15 capable of 1,200 yard shots with ease. If you have a 12.5" 308 version with a suppressor, and a 20" 6.5 upper, that's all you'll ever need..period.
Link Posted: 11/2/2018 7:26:29 PM EDT
[#19]
I can't wait. I wanted to build a .308 Ar but now that this is coming, i'll just buy this one!
Link Posted: 11/2/2018 8:51:47 PM EDT
[#20]
I’m going to try and save up some gun fund cash!
Link Posted: 11/2/2018 9:25:04 PM EDT
[#21]
love my piston Revolution. such an innovative design.feel of an AR15 until you stare at those big mags in the mag well :)
Link Posted: 11/3/2018 3:53:30 PM EDT
[#22]
December 15th, nice to have a date, (unless it doesn't happen). There should be some user reviews by Shot Show.
Link Posted: 11/3/2018 7:14:23 PM EDT
[#23]
[youtube]https://youtu.be/dmHPgL12BC0[/youtube]

[youtube]https://youtu.be/dmHPgL12BC0dmHPgL12BC0[/youtube]

https://youtu.be/dmHPgL12BC0
Link Posted: 11/3/2018 7:23:01 PM EDT
[#24]
FIRST LOOK: POF Goes Direct Impingement With All-New Revolution DI Rifle
Link Posted: 11/3/2018 8:20:40 PM EDT
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Thanks, not sure why I can't get that to work.

Btw, Tony in the video is the one who said in an email they are still working on the PSG9mm, to watch for it next year.
Link Posted: 11/3/2018 8:55:28 PM EDT
[#26]
A company that makes piston AR’s is considered innovative because they are adding direct impingement AR’s?

Link Posted: 11/3/2018 9:38:17 PM EDT
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No, they added di ars to their product line a few years ago. The di Revolution is innovative because it is a 6.8lb ar-15 that shoots the .308 cartridge. It is innovative because, even though it is chambered for a much larger cartridge, it still shares several parts with the ar-15, including bolt carriers, charging handles, and rails.

The di ARs that POF and LWRCI added recently only makes sense. Most people aren't going to see the need, nor be willing to spend the extra money, for the piston gas system. Why miss out on those sales?
Link Posted: 11/3/2018 11:51:59 PM EDT
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Quoted:

Thanks, not sure why I can't get that to work.

Btw, Tony in the video is the one who said in an email they are still working on the PSG9mm, to watch for it next year.
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No worries. Think you might have to be a team member to embed videos.
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It’s ok that you don’t get it but there’s no need to come in and take a big shit in the thread either.
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 12:08:10 AM EDT
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An innovative company that makes AR-15 sized .308 rifles is bringing out an AR-15 weight .308 rifle.

I asked him about this at the Dallas Safari show, and again at the NRA show.  Glad it's finally here.

Guess I need to add more reinforcement to the Lego stock.
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 12:09:51 AM EDT
[#30]
If you have a problem, their customer service is the worst based on my experience.
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 12:28:25 AM EDT
[#31]
I’ve owned - five? - P308 rifles and based on my experience, the listed weight likely excludes the weight of the brake and stock that come with the rifle. DI Revolution probably weighs ~7.3 lbs from the factory. Still a very appealing rifle.

ETA: I’ll post an example of a current model, the P308 Edge 16.5”. About a 10.4oz “discrepancy.” Still own and love my P308. Chose it over a SCAR17.

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Link Posted: 11/4/2018 12:47:14 AM EDT
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Odd, I had to use it with one of my rifles and they were excellent.
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 1:26:13 AM EDT
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I’ve owned - five? - P308 rifles and based on my experience, the listed weight likely excludes the weight of the brake and stock that come with the rifle. DI Revolution probably weighs ~7.3 lbs from the factory. Still a very appealing rifle.

ETA: I’ll post an example of a current model, the P308 Edge 16.5”. About a 10.4oz “discrepancy.” Still own and love my P308. Chose it over a SCAR17.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/421435/2CB756F9-7EE4-40AC-964C-7CAEB496934A_jpeg-727201.JPG
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Not listing the total weight would seem a bit disingenuous.  While still lite, the 10oz discrepancy you show is quite a bit.
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 9:44:29 AM EDT
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Quoted:  The thing runs and runs hard, trust me...pricing will be comparable to the Revolution piston setup, most likely cheaper. The thing drives nails. Release date December 15th. The Revolution rifle was in R&D for 4 years, the "bugs" have been ironed out. It runs in select fire, runs suppressed, runs select fire while suppressed. Its guaranteed MOA out of the box. The DI version is more of the same, only lighter. The recoil impulse in .308 with is similar to running an over gassed 5.56. The 6.5 Revolution DI is so soft shooting with the 20" set up the thing is scary. 1,200 yard shots are no problem. Bold statement I'm not afraid to make, the AR-15 is dead. We now have a completely ambidextrous Rifle that's the same size and weight as an AR-15 capable of 1,200 yard shots with ease. If you have a 12.5" 308 version with a suppressor, and a 20" 6.5 upper, that's all you'll ever need..period.
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Frank, really looking forward to seeing this.  If you release receiver sets w/ bolts and bbl extensions, some folks will build REALLY lightweight .308s and 6.5s.  Hope you can come back to Dallas again soon - next Safari Club show?
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 11:30:06 AM EDT
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The thing runs and runs hard, trust me...pricing will be comparable to the Revolution piston setup, most likely cheaper. The thing drives nails. Release date December 15th. The Revolution rifle was in R&D for 4 years, the "bugs" have been ironed out. It runs in select fire, runs suppressed, runs select fire while suppressed. Its guaranteed MOA out of the box. The DI version is more of the same, only lighter. The recoil impulse in .308 with is similar to running an over gassed 5.56. The 6.5 Revolution DI is so soft shooting with the 20" set up the thing is scary. 1,200 yard shots are no problem. Bold statement I'm not afraid to make, the AR-15 is dead. We now have a completely ambidextrous Rifle that's the same size and weight as an AR-15 capable of 1,200 yard shots with ease. If you have a 12.5" 308 version with a suppressor, and a 20" 6.5 upper, that's all you'll ever need..period.
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Join date, location, post count.

Can you tell us what the actual weight of the rifle is, as shipped?
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 12:32:40 PM EDT
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Join date, location, post count.

Can you tell us what the actual weight of the rifle is, as shipped?
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Good catch. Any idea who this person is?

Edited: nevermind.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 12:29:55 PM EDT
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Odd, I had to use it with one of my rifles and they were excellent.
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If you have a problem, their customer service is the worst based on my experience.
Odd, I had to use it with one of my rifles and they were excellent.
I had ordered a POF ambi billet lower a number of years ago.

I had a time-critical travel coming up within 48 hours of me picking up the lower.

The LGS I used to transfer through must have lost the important ambi parts when they unboxed, because they were gone.

I called up POF and Frank answered.

I had the parts within 24hr and didn't miss a thing.

This is my single sample size with POF's CS, which was excellent.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 2:13:08 PM EDT
[#38]
I will likely be buying this when it comes out. I have money burning a hole in my pocket for a new 308. Was considering the DD rifle but this thing looks so nice.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 3:52:44 PM EDT
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Not listing the total weight would seem a bit disingenuous.  While still lite, the 10oz discrepancy you show is quite a bit.
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I’ve owned - five? - P308 rifles and based on my experience, the listed weight likely excludes the weight of the brake and stock that come with the rifle. DI Revolution probably weighs ~7.3 lbs from the factory. Still a very appealing rifle.

ETA: I’ll post an example of a current model, the P308 Edge 16.5”. About a 10.4oz “discrepancy.” Still own and love my P308. Chose it over a SCAR17.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/421435/2CB756F9-7EE4-40AC-964C-7CAEB496934A_jpeg-727201.JPG
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Not listing the total weight would seem a bit disingenuous.  While still lite, the 10oz discrepancy you show is quite a bit.
Apparently there's a fluted barrel version and a non-fluted version.  The non-fluted is listed at 8.7 lbs, while the fluted barrel version is listed at 8.1 lbs.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 4:04:15 PM EDT
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Apparently there's a fluted barrel version and a non-fluted version.  The non-fluted is listed at 8.7 lbs, while the fluted barrel version is listed at 8.1 lbs.
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I’ve owned - five? - P308 rifles and based on my experience, the listed weight likely excludes the weight of the brake and stock that come with the rifle. DI Revolution probably weighs ~7.3 lbs from the factory. Still a very appealing rifle.

ETA: I’ll post an example of a current model, the P308 Edge 16.5”. About a 10.4oz “discrepancy.” Still own and love my P308. Chose it over a SCAR17.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/421435/2CB756F9-7EE4-40AC-964C-7CAEB496934A_jpeg-727201.JPG
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/421435/D2673570-E516-4571-A655-374A53765481_jpeg-727198.JPG
Not listing the total weight would seem a bit disingenuous.  While still lite, the 10oz discrepancy you show is quite a bit.
Apparently there's a fluted barrel version and a non-fluted version.  The non-fluted is listed at 8.7 lbs, while the fluted barrel version is listed at 8.1 lbs.
Over half a pound huh. That seems like a lot to me but I have no real knowledge on the specific weights. If I’m wrong I’m blaming it on Monday.
Link Posted: 11/7/2018 8:08:39 PM EDT
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Looks like POF has it up on their web page: https://pof-usa.com/firearms/revolution-di/.  $2569.99 MSRP, so $100 cheaper than the regular Revolution.
Link Posted: 11/8/2018 9:59:08 AM EDT
[#42]
Looks great! Wish they would get rid of the short pic rail section on the 6 o'clock rail. Lots of mlok compatible bipods out now and you can always add a section if you need it.

Interested to know what street prices will be.
Link Posted: 11/8/2018 1:01:47 PM EDT
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Looks great! Wish they would get rid of the short pic rail section on the 6 o'clock rail. Lots of mlok compatible bipods out now and you can always add a section if you need it.

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Agreed, if someone wants a pic rail attachment there, they can add one (that's the entire point...right?).  I wonder if the hand guard can be swapped for a standard AR-15 one?
Link Posted: 11/8/2018 10:57:11 PM EDT
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https://www.ballisticmag.com/2018/10/31/pof-revolution-di-rifle-6-5-creedmoor/

Article on the di 6.5cm version. 20" barrel with a Magpul PRS stock.

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Link Posted: 11/9/2018 2:30:53 PM EDT
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Apparently there's a fluted barrel version and a non-fluted version.  The non-fluted is listed at 8.7 lbs, while the fluted barrel version is listed at 8.1 lbs.
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A fluted barrel version? You mean like this one?

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I’m afraid you’re mistaken about a Gen4 Edge with a fluted barrel. The only way to get a Gen4 “Edge” with a fluted barrel is if you already have a Gen4 and send in your upper to have the barrel nut and handguard replaced with the slimmer “Edge” handguard and nut. The difference in weight between non-fluted and fluted 16” barrels is 8oz.
Link Posted: 11/19/2018 11:23:47 AM EDT
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A fluted barrel version? You mean like this one?

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I’m afraid you’re mistaken about a Gen4 Edge with a fluted barrel. The only way to get a Gen4 “Edge” with a fluted barrel is if you already have a Gen4 and send in your upper to have the barrel nut and handguard replaced with the slimmer “Edge” handguard and nut. The difference in weight between non-fluted and fluted 16” barrels is 8oz.
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Got it.  I have no personal experience here; was just going off this:

P308 Gen 4 Edge - Listed at 8.7 lbs

P308 Gen 4 Edge fluted version - Listed at 8.1 lbs

ps - I have no affiliation with Central Florida Gun and Tactical and have never done business with them; they just came up in a google search when I was entertaining the idea of a P308.
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Got it.  I have no personal experience here; was just going off this:

P308 Gen 4 Edge - Listed at 8.7 lbs

P308 Gen 4 Edge fluted version - Listed at 8.1 lbs

ps - I have no affiliation with Central Florida Gun and Tactical and have never done business with them; they just came up in a google search when I was entertaining the idea of a P308.
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That’s awesome! Glad to see them (possibly) bringing back the fluted barrel. Thanks for sharing.
Link Posted: 11/23/2018 9:32:03 PM EDT
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There is a retailer out of Florida that has the Revolution with an 18" barrel. Not sure how because I haven't seen POF mention an 18" for it anywhere.
Link Posted: 11/23/2018 9:53:11 PM EDT
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I have had the Revolution 16.5" gas piston since April of this year and just crossed the 1000+ round mark today. I definitely recommend the 3.5 lb flat trigger and a bi-pod. That being said I found this guns 1 major flaw today, the bolt hold open button design. I have pictures but don't know how to upload. It fell out and fortunately I was on a mat or else I may have not even noticed it because its so small. It's held on by a .0002 cent toothed washer that popped off and fortunately stayed in the lower until I got home and was able to dissemble and flip over for it to fall out. Thinking about trying to find a c ring as a replacement. I shoot Federal Premium gold medal Berger 185 grain juggernaut match rounds, may be a little to much for this little .308. Any thoughts?
Link Posted: 11/24/2018 2:43:20 AM EDT
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DAMNIT!  I will be picking up my Revolution (gas piston) in less than a month when I get home for a little R&R.  Nice to see a DI version...if the weight is true, 6.8 pounds is pretty remarkable.  Once you add mount, optics, BUIS, and maybe a better stock system, it's still going to be quite manageable to both carry and shoot.  Kudos for listening to the always-unsatisfied consumers!

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I have had the Revolution 16.5" gas piston since April of this year and just crossed the 1000+ round mark today. I definitely recommend the 3.5 lb flat trigger and a bi-pod. That being said I found this guns 1 major flaw today, the bolt hold open button design. I have pictures but don't know how to upload. It fell out and fortunately I was on a mat or else I may have not even noticed it because its so small. It's held on by a .0002 cent toothed washer that popped off and fortunately stayed in the lower until I got home and was able to dissemble and flip over for it to fall out. Thinking about trying to find a c ring as a replacement. I shoot Federal Premium gold medal Berger 185 grain juggernaut match rounds, may be a little to much for this little .308. Any thoughts?
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Interesting.  I'll keep an eye on this when I get some range time with mine...something you may want to contact Frank about and get his take.

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