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Posted: 12/6/2018 7:19:05 PM EDT
[#1]
Jpoints clone now?
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WI, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2018 7:30:50 PM EDT
[#2]
You guys and all these newfangled recces... We need more old skool real deal navy / Delta recces.....
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USA
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Posted: 12/6/2018 7:31:04 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usnguns:
That's a Jpoint. |
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USA
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Posted: 12/6/2018 7:34:09 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryHahaha, screw the price for a wilcox doctor mount on the secondary market.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2018 7:52:02 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cherokeefan03:
Question for all who are ordered the Compass lake barrels, did you call or email them to special order the barrels? and do you need to send any more information or do they have the details on file to cut the flush barrels? Also what blanks have you all been using? Apologies for all the questions, but finally getting around to starting this project after my MK13 |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2018 7:53:57 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
You guys and all these newfangled recces... We need more old skool real deal navy / Delta recces..... |
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Posted: 12/6/2018 9:27:09 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn:
Ha. Dudes got black boots on. Isn’t that pretty old school? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn:
Originally Posted By JJREA:
You guys and all these newfangled recces... We need more old skool real deal navy / Delta recces..... |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 12:35:14 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
And jungles at that. Most favorite pair of boots I ever had were jungles. I re-soled them at least 6 times.
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WI, USA
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Posted: 12/7/2018 2:53:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JJREA]
[#9]
I wasn't talking about him. He's more old skool than ya'll. Woodland, Aluminum mag with parcord and tape for the grab. I mean, how could he NOT HAVE MAGPUL???
But actually I was talking about the guns..... j points on scopes, flush mounted cans, atlas bipods. I mean, I didn't even see an atlas til like 5 years ago. I probably just missed them though.... Or maybe I'm just getting my timeline wrong. Anyways.... I was looking for that old pic of the recce that's all sort of blurry, small pic. It's got just a x33 type scope on it with a one piece mount that was sort of like the armalite mounts. No target turrets. ARMS 6-9 and a sopmod.... Has a rail of course. I can't find that pic. Now that's old skool. Among others. I'm debating on sending back my leupy VX-1 2-7 to the factory because I busted the objective bell. But maybe they could fix it and stuff a better reticle in there. Something with some sort of BDC and then I wouldn't even need target turrets. Since the VX-1 doesn't even have click adjustments. |
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USA
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Posted: 12/7/2018 7:45:10 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
I wasn't talking about him. He's more old skool than ya'll. Woodland, Aluminum mag with parcord and tape for the grab. I mean, how could he NOT HAVE MAGPUL??? But actually I was talking about the guns..... j points on scopes, flush mounted cans, atlas bipods. I mean, I didn't even see an atlas til like 5 years ago. I probably just missed them though.... Or maybe I'm just getting my timeline wrong. Anyways.... I was looking for that old pic of the recce that's all sort of blurry, small pic. It's got just a x33 type scope on it with a one piece mount that was sort of like the armalite mounts. No target turrets. ARMS 6-9 and a sopmod.... Has a rail of course. I can't find that pic. Now that's old skool. Among others. I'm debating on sending back my leupy VX-1 2-7 to the factory because I busted the objective bell. But maybe they could fix it and stuff a better reticle in there. Something with some sort of BDC and then I wouldn't even need target turrets. Since the VX-1 doesn't even have click adjustments. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/7/2018 9:17:10 AM EDT
[#11]
Not sure if this has been posted before, but I saw this on SSD and thought of this thread.
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Posted: 12/7/2018 10:34:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swamperator:
Not sure if this has been posted before, but I saw this on SSD and thought of this thread. https://imgur.com/a/CFgsxmo 
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NC, USA
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Posted: 12/7/2018 11:05:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swamperator:
Not sure if this has been posted before, but I saw this on SSD and thought of this thread. https://imgur.com/a/CFgsxmo |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 12/7/2018 12:56:44 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013: Guess it depends on your definition of old school. Most, if not all, the parts everyone are using are over 10 years old. Do you know what picture I'm talking about? I swear every time I download that one to my computer it eventually morphs into a file that doesn't work. It's kind of a small pic and not real clear. And almost black and white looking. I think it's basically all black but I think it has some KAC rail panels that are painted tan. Actually, I should just go back to the first few pages. Maybe it's up there. |
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USA
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Posted: 12/7/2018 1:17:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA: I hear ya. I was just giving you all a hard time. I like everything OLD, cuz I'm getting old. LOL. I was around here when the recce was first a "thing". Do you know what picture I'm talking about? I swear every time I download that one to my computer it eventually morphs into a file that doesn't work. It's kind of a small pic and not real clear. And almost black and white looking. I think it's basically all black but I think it has some KAC rail panels that are painted tan. Actually, I should just go back to the first few pages. Maybe it's up there. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 12/7/2018 4:13:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JJREA]
[#16]
I went through the first 15 pages in here and it's not there. I thought I posted it in here, but I don't have it in my imgur account. So I must not have. I will post it if I ever find it.....
It's this one. I could make a pretty close clone to this one if I had the right mount. I'm not exactly sure what kind of scope that is, but my 2x7 looks.... similar. 
I wonder if that mount is an armalite mount. It's really hard to tell. The knobs look like they kind of match but not sure about the ring shape.... 
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WI, USA
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Posted: 12/7/2018 4:18:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JJREA]
[#17]
I'm trying to DL that pic and it just won't...... Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I like how it has a rear sight but no front. Anyone got any idea what kind of mount and scope that is? Also, that sopmod stock don't look completely normal though... ewwwwww I should do that other one I like.... My only thing is there's no way I'm affording a NF.......It would have to be some kind of 1-4 that looks similar..... 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/7/2018 4:35:39 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: It was just posted on page 31. |
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USA
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Posted: 12/7/2018 5:11:59 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
I'm trying to DL that pic and it just won't...... Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I like how it has a rear sight but no front. Anyone got any idea what kind of mount and scope that is? Also, that sopmod stock don't look completely normal though... ewwwwww I should do that other one I like.... My only thing is there's no way I'm affording a NF.......It would have to be some kind of 1-4 that looks similar..... https://i.imgur.com/VmMihrk.jpg |
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USA
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Posted: 12/7/2018 6:57:59 PM EDT
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/7/2018 8:51:41 PM EDT
[#21]
Anyone through a NF 1-8 on a NSW Recce yet?
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/7/2018 11:23:27 PM EDT
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USA
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Posted: 12/8/2018 2:42:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: usnguns]
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Infidel4life11:
Jpoints clone now? There are a few different variations of the Wilcox MRDS mounts used by the Navy that fit the Nightforce rings. The 35101P01 is for the Docter and is commonly used on the Mk14 and Mk17. The 30501P01 is for the JPoint, and the 30500G01 is for the JPoint but has protective side walls. ...would be pretty nice if Wilcox would do another run of these... 35101P01 (Docter) 
30501P01 (JPoint) 
30500G01 (JPoint with side walls) 
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NC, USA
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Posted: 12/8/2018 7:05:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Eyekahn]
[#24]
Originally Posted By Eyekahn:
Branching off from the normal Recce Rifle Thread for just legit clones. These have the most varying setups of all the clones I believe. Trying to keep this to the AR platform. But HK is kosher since it is the newer variant. Here is a quick run down. Can add more items as they get brought up. RAILS: KAC FF RAS Medium/Long and KAC MRE OPTICS: Nightforce 2.5-10x24/32, Leupold MK4 Series, S&B Short Dot, and Doctor/T1 Piggybacked OPTIC MOUNTS: NF Rings, ARMS Rings, NF Unimount, LaRue LT104, LaRue Riser/Ring Combo’s BARRELS: 16/15.x Ops Cut Barrel, 16in Lilja, or 14.5 M4 BIPODS: Harris 6-9 and Atlas BT10 STOCK: SOPMOD, CAR, or CTR. MUZZLE DEVICES: Ops/AE, BE Myers, or KAC NT4 SUPPRESSORS: Ops 12th/AEM5 and KAC NT4 A few to get us started of in the wild and a few of the favorites I’ve collected. https://i.imgur.com/eQsW54w.jpg https://i.imgur.com/96efWyH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/gDCE7Tj.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Su3iHMR.png https://i.imgur.com/D8jzOnk.jpg https://i.imgur.com/RnSjqeV.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ts9Kivo.jpg https://i.imgur.com/QTA7OyW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/OVEqo9Y.jpg https://i.imgur.com/agsuTyF.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ZLDhhMo.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lrgGcuB.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5j54vFl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EIqypEh.jpg My rig. https://i.imgur.com/xQ7FpSW.jpg |
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USA
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Posted: 12/8/2018 8:13:52 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usnguns:
JPoints are good to go...seems like they're often mistaken for a Docter. The JPpoint sight as well as the protective cover have a distinctly different shape than the Docter...the Docter has a curved shape whereas the JPoint is more of a ramped shape, if that makes sense. There are a few different variations of the Wilcox MRDS mounts used by the Navy that fit the Nightforce rings. The 35101P01 is for the Docter and is commonly used on the Mk14 and Mk17. The 30501P01 is for the JPoint, and the 30500G01 is for the JPoint but has protective side walls. ...would be pretty nice if Wilcox would do another run of these... 35101P01 (Docter) http://i.imgur.com/u7H36Ka.jpg http://i.imgur.com/iolONF7.jpg http://i.imgur.com/x2fJnBB.jpg 30501P01 (JPoint) http://i.imgur.com/WREwmLU.jpg http://i.imgur.com/euzAW7A.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fCgriMg.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tulAFv1.jpg http://i.imgur.com/cFe84jY.jpg 30500G01 (JPoint with side walls) http://i.imgur.com/ZKcaNAD.jpg http://i.imgur.com/cBMLl5E.jpg |
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USA
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Posted: 12/8/2018 8:15:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: I’m still wondering what dot/mount is on the very first rifle? Doesn’t look like any MRDS mount I’ve seen. Top of the mount is very bulky. Or mYbe it’s a J Point with the cover on. Just a weird angle. |
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Posted: 12/8/2018 1:44:39 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usnguns:
...would be pretty nice if Wilcox would do another run of these... 
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Posted: 12/9/2018 5:53:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
I went through the first 15 pages in here and it's not there. I thought I posted it in here, but I don't have it in my imgur account. So I must not have. I will post it if I ever find it..... It's this one. I could make a pretty close clone to this one if I had the right mount. I'm not exactly sure what kind of scope that is, but my 2x7 looks.... similar. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/cmutka/RecceRifle.jpg You're wanting to look for 4x or 6x STANAG Hensoldts like the ones you used to see on G3s and stuff. They made some with an ARMS mout I believe. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 12/9/2018 6:07:02 PM EDT
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That's not a bad idea..... But I don't think that's what's on that one. The hensoldt's seem a bit less.... pronounced in the front and back.... I think. CD once posted them in the A2 forum. I'll have to go look at that again if it didn't get archived.
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Posted: 12/9/2018 6:17:41 PM EDT
[#30]
Only other option maybe is a Leupold 1.5-6x42 LPS... |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2018 10:22:07 PM EDT
[#31]
http://i.imgur.com/cFe84jY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZKcaNAD.jpg (pics posted by usnguns above) Is the gun on the left which appears to have a URX II rail, a recce or something else? |
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Posted: 12/10/2018 11:25:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 44Echo10:
http://i.imgur.com/cFe84jY.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ZKcaNAD.jpg (pics posted by usnguns above) Is the gun on the left which appears to have a URX II rail, a recce or something else? |
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USA
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Posted: 12/11/2018 2:36:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: usnguns]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 44Echo10:
http://i.imgur.com/cFe84jY.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ZKcaNAD.jpg (pics posted by usnguns above) Is the gun on the left which appears to have a URX II rail, a recce or something else? 
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Posted: 12/11/2018 3:16:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usnguns:
14.5" SR25 battle rifle with a 7.62 KAC corn cob...pretty rare set up. http://i.imgur.com/6KaydNK.jpg 
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NC, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2018 3:19:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Eyekahn]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usnguns:
14.5" SR25 battle rifle with a 7.62 KAC corn cob...pretty rare set up. http://i.imgur.com/6KaydNK.jpg X24 On 14.5 SR25. Boom there it is! EDIT: Upon further inspection. Doesn’t it look like this rifle has a brass deflector? Also why is the gas block set so far away from the rail. Almost like it is a rifle length gas system with a mid length rail. Speaking about the rifle in question. Not the rifle in this quote. |
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Posted: 12/11/2018 3:37:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: usnguns]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: @rtutah X24 On 14.5 SR25. Boom there it is! EDIT: Upon further inspection. Doesn’t it look like this rifle has a brass deflector? Also why is the gas block set so far away from the rail. Almost like it is a rifle length gas system with a mid length rail. Speaking about the rifle in question. Not the rifle in this quote. And that's not the gas block...that's the interface between the muzzle device and the attached KAC 7.62 corn cob type can. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2018 3:42:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usnguns:
The brass deflector is the detachable KAC deflector seen on the early Mk11s. And that's not the gas block...that's the interface between the muzzle device and the attached KAC 7.62 corn cob type can. |
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USA
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Posted: 12/11/2018 3:48:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: usnguns]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: Very cool. Any insight on why it looks like a rifle length gas system? Maybe a prototype? This one is also the same...from Col. Lutz. 
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NC, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2018 7:32:45 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usnguns:
I'm not really seeing where it looks like a rifle length gas system. The rifle with the Nightforce and J-Point is the same configuration as the painted rifle with white background in the other photo. That one is Brit Slabinski's rifle and the pic is from the Navy History and Heritage Command. I wouldn't really call it a prototype. Pretty sure it was called the Mk11 Carbine or SR 25 Battle Rifle. This one is also the same...from Col. Lutz. http://i.imgur.com/NFIyh5t.jpg This is a very cool rifle. |
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Posted: 12/11/2018 10:31:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usnguns:
14.5" SR25 battle rifle with a 7.62 KAC corn cob...pretty rare set up. http://i.imgur.com/6KaydNK.jpg Wonder why KAC never mass-produced those NT4s. They were obviously good enough to issue to SMUs on some level. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2018 1:00:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JJREA]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86:
http://mg-42.net/images/Hensoldt/F-Z.jpg Only other option maybe is a Leupold 1.5-6x42 LPS... I don't think that's the same one either.... That pic makes it almost look like it's blued.... You know? 
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VA, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2018 9:58:54 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usnguns:
14.5" SR25 battle rifle with a 7.62 KAC corn cob...pretty rare set up. http://i.imgur.com/6KaydNK.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usnguns:
Originally Posted By 44Echo10:
http://i.imgur.com/cFe84jY.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ZKcaNAD.jpg (pics posted by usnguns above) Is the gun on the left which appears to have a URX II rail, a recce or something else? http://i.imgur.com/6KaydNK.jpg The short barrel, angle of the pic, and partial receiver shot threw me. I didn't realize there were SR25's with such short barrels and the only suppressors I had paid attention to on this platform were the long ones on the M110's and Mk 11's. I was hoping this was a recce variant with a URX. I already have the Mk12 Mod1 clone with the free float RAS and was wanting something a bit different.  Thanks again |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:23:07 PM EDT
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WI, USA
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:53:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WarEagleAUB:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4830/46251930052_af10d02af8_b.jpg |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 12/13/2018 3:26:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: Send them your upper and rail. They will make it flush. Any of their blanks will shoot amazing. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 12/13/2018 3:31:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cherokeefan03: I was trying to have the Barrel be the first purchase, do I need to have the rail and upper already? If you're not doing a pin/weld, then have at it. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 12/13/2018 6:07:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WarEagleAUB:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4830/46251930052_af10d02af8_b.jpg |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 12/13/2018 11:05:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA: Excellent pic and gun. Very nice. Thanks for sharing! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA: Excellent pic and gun. Very nice. Thanks for sharing! Originally Posted By Eyekahn: Those rings look much better! |
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USA
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Posted: 12/14/2018 6:46:01 AM EDT
[#49]
Went back to a black 4 position tube and threw a hogue on. Hopefully once the holidays have passed I can work on getting a peq.
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MD, USA
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Posted: 12/14/2018 8:25:24 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013:
Went back to a black 4 position tube and threw a hogue on. Hopefully once the holidays have passed I can work on getting a peq. https://i.imgur.com/K8X8q7n.jpg |
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