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Link Posted: 7/4/2019 12:21:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:

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I shall not be infringed by your moderator powers.
Link Posted: 7/4/2019 12:24:23 PM EDT
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Cheers and Happy 4th everyone!

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Cheers and Happy 4th everyone!

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That came together good man, Happy 4th.
Link Posted: 7/4/2019 12:29:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:

*wee-oo wee-oo wee-oo*
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Alright, that's quality shit. lol'd.
Link Posted: 7/4/2019 12:31:37 PM EDT
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I should probably remove it.
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Losing mod status in 3, 2, 1...
Link Posted: 7/4/2019 3:35:56 PM EDT
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What's the best price an nt4 can be had for? They are still up there right?
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:

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Link Posted: 7/4/2019 4:33:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:

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Just don't drink and post
Link Posted: 7/4/2019 4:40:25 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/4/2019 4:57:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-:
Iam with you 100%, I just wish a pic of the combat latch was available. It would help my clone ocd....
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Originally Posted By 78Staff:

I'm combat latch AF.  Mil/hotdog latch blows.  But, never seen an ITW pic - has to be one out there though.
Iam with you 100%, I just wish a pic of the combat latch was available. It would help my clone ocd....
Sounds like a jobs for @Combat_Diver - CD any chance your'e seeing Pri GB's with Combat/Serrated latches out there?
Link Posted: 7/4/2019 5:29:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts:
What's the best price an nt4 can be had for? They are still up there right?
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You're not going to do much better than around $1,350.
Link Posted: 7/4/2019 5:30:19 PM EDT
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That FSP RIS II though, shiiiiit that is sexy.
Link Posted: 7/4/2019 5:50:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 78Staff:
Sounds like a jobs for @Combat_Diver - CD any chance your'e seeing Pri GB's with Combat/Serrated latches out there?
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Originally Posted By 78Staff:
Originally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-:
Originally Posted By 78Staff:

I'm combat latch AF.  Mil/hotdog latch blows.  But, never seen an ITW pic - has to be one out there though.
Iam with you 100%, I just wish a pic of the combat latch was available. It would help my clone ocd....
Sounds like a jobs for @Combat_Diver - CD any chance your'e seeing Pri GB's with Combat/Serrated latches out there?
I'm interested as well
Link Posted: 7/4/2019 6:38:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By krdt:

You're not going to do much better than around $1,350.
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Dang. I like them better. But that's alot.
Link Posted: 7/4/2019 6:39:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts:

Dang. I like them better. But that's alot.
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Totally agree with you there.
Link Posted: 7/4/2019 7:00:14 PM EDT
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True, they're expensive... but with RCs showing up at $1,600, they may actually become the less expensive clone correct option eventually, heh.

If the choice is between an RC at $700 and an NT4 at $1,350, it's pretty easy to go with the RC - when it starts becoming an RC or even RC2 at $900-$1100, plus a 4 prong at $300, things become a lot more cloudy.
Link Posted: 7/4/2019 7:11:36 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/4/2019 7:25:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By krdt:
True, they're expensive... but with RCs showing up at $1,600, they may actually become the less expensive clone correct option eventually, heh.

If the choice is between an RC at $700 and an NT4 at $1,350, it's pretty easy to go with the RC - when it starts becoming an RC or even RC2 at $900-$1100, plus a 4 prong at $300, things become a lot more cloudy.
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This is true. I have two 4-prongs that cost roughly $300/each, so $600 total. Two NT4 mounts cost roughly $75/each. So the difference in just the two mounting devices is $450.

I wish I had just jumped on the NT4 from the beginning. Probably would have cost roughly the same in the end.
Link Posted: 7/4/2019 7:26:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:

That's a good point. NT4 mount is cheap as sin (especially for a KAC product) hell, don't NT4's even come with an M4QD?

I think they used to at least.
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Yes they do and excellent point. So the difference in the two mounts is closer to $525.
Link Posted: 7/4/2019 8:03:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By krdt:
True, they're expensive... but with RCs showing up at $1,600, they may actually become the less expensive clone correct option eventually, heh.

If the choice is between an RC at $700 and an NT4 at $1,350, it's pretty easy to go with the RC - when it starts becoming an RC or even RC2 at $900-$1100, plus a 4 prong at $300, things become a lot more cloudy.
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No way I'm buying a 4 prong and I wouldn't pay more than 700 for a rc or sb. I'll be running my sandman for the time being but I need some more suppressors. I feel like the rcs are not made well. Do they work, yes. But strikes, erosion, build up etc just turn me off. Are there any issues with the nt4?
Link Posted: 7/4/2019 8:48:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts:
No way I'm buying a 4 prong and I wouldn't pay more than 700 for a rc or sb. I'll be running my sandman for the time being but I need some more suppressors. I feel like the rcs are not made well. Do they work, yes. But strikes, erosion, build up etc just turn me off. Are there any issues with the nt4?
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Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts:
Originally Posted By krdt:
True, they're expensive... but with RCs showing up at $1,600, they may actually become the less expensive clone correct option eventually, heh.

If the choice is between an RC at $700 and an NT4 at $1,350, it's pretty easy to go with the RC - when it starts becoming an RC or even RC2 at $900-$1100, plus a 4 prong at $300, things become a lot more cloudy.
No way I'm buying a 4 prong and I wouldn't pay more than 700 for a rc or sb. I'll be running my sandman for the time being but I need some more suppressors. I feel like the rcs are not made well. Do they work, yes. But strikes, erosion, build up etc just turn me off. Are there any issues with the nt4?
I will just tell you flat out that's nonsense. The RC is extremely well made - tough, low back pressure, little gas leakage and one of the best mounting systems out there.

I don't think erosion is any different than any other can made with similar materials - it's just that RCs tend to be used on short barrels with prong flash hiders and have been well documented with pictures. People also mistake cosmetic erosion with actual damaging erosion. In reality, the RC has a quite thick Inconel blast baffle  - I'd estimate it's twice as thick as the NT4 blast baffle. Naturally, some of the baffle thickness is offset by the 4 prong causing more targeted erosion, but if you used an SFCT to be comparable to the M4QD, I wouldn't be surprised if an RC could last as long as an NT4, maybe even longer due to the thicker baffle. If not, the RC has the huge added benefit of being able to be rebuilt.

The RC does have a tighter bore than the NT4 and the occasional baffle kiss happens, but it's usually entirely cosmetic. I don't hear of many RCs needing to rebuilt because of a legitimate strike. As far as carbon buildup, the shape of the NT4 baffles actually lends itself to faster accumulation (and my limited testing backs this up - the NT4 was accumulating weight quite fast). You can see why it'd pick up weight below:



I would say in a purely pragmatic comparison, the RC is probably superior to the NT4 in many ways (better mount, less gas leakage, less back pressure, lighter, etc.). But they are both very well built, tough cans.
Link Posted: 7/4/2019 8:49:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts:
No way I'm buying a 4 prong and I wouldn't pay more than 700 for a rc or sb. I'll be running my sandman for the time being but I need some more suppressors. I feel like the rcs are not made well. Do they work, yes. But strikes, erosion, build up etc just turn me off. Are there any issues with the nt4?
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Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts:
Originally Posted By krdt:
True, they're expensive... but with RCs showing up at $1,600, they may actually become the less expensive clone correct option eventually, heh.

If the choice is between an RC at $700 and an NT4 at $1,350, it's pretty easy to go with the RC - when it starts becoming an RC or even RC2 at $900-$1100, plus a 4 prong at $300, things become a lot more cloudy.
No way I'm buying a 4 prong and I wouldn't pay more than 700 for a rc or sb. I'll be running my sandman for the time being but I need some more suppressors. I feel like the rcs are not made well. Do they work, yes. But strikes, erosion, build up etc just turn me off. Are there any issues with the nt4?
I have a real and a "copy" of the 4-prong and I didn't pay more than $70 dollars for either BUT if I was forced to pay more than $125~130.00 for a SF flash hider I'd just by the closed-tine Warcomp or 3-prong and call it good. It would be covered by the can most of the time anyway.
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Link Posted: 7/4/2019 9:51:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By krdt:

I will just tell you flat out that's nonsense. The RC is extremely well made - tough, low back pressure, little gas leakage and one of the best mounting systems out there.

I don't think erosion is any different than any other can made with similar materials - it's just that RCs tend to be used on short barrels with prong flash hiders and have been well documented with pictures. People also mistake cosmetic erosion with actual damaging erosion. In reality, the RC has a quite thick Inconel blast baffle  - I'd estimate it's twice as thick as the NT4 blast baffle. Naturally, some of the baffle thickness is offset by the 4 prong causing more targeted erosion, but if you used an SFCT to be comparable to the M4QD, I wouldn't be surprised if an RC could last as long as an NT4, maybe even longer due to the thicker baffle. If not, the RC has the huge added benefit of being able to be rebuilt.

The RC does have a tighter bore than the NT4 and the occasional baffle kiss happens, but it's usually entirely cosmetic. I don't hear of many RCs needing to rebuilt because of a legitimate strike. As far as carbon buildup, the shape of the NT4 baffles actually lends itself to faster accumulation (and my limited testing backs this up - the NT4 was accumulating weight quite fast). You can see why it'd pick up weight below:

http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/knights.carbon.buildup.png

I would say in a purely pragmatic comparison, the RC is probably superior to the NT4 in many ways (better mount, less gas leakage, less back pressure, lighter, etc.). But they are both very well built, tough cans.
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Ah I forgot about that picture. That's terrible. I do like the fact that guys are getting their rc rebuilt for a reasonable price.
Link Posted: 7/5/2019 12:03:14 AM EDT
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All this talk of the NT4. The wait begins. Check hasn't even been cashed yet.

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Link Posted: 7/5/2019 12:12:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts:

Ah I forgot about that picture. That's terrible. I do like the fact that guys are getting their rc rebuilt for a reasonable price.
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Here's another pic, not sure if it's an RC but it is a surefire.
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Link Posted: 7/5/2019 12:14:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 78Staff:

Sounds like a jobs for @Combat_Diver - CD any chance your'e seeing Pri GB's with Combat/Serrated latches out there?
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Just the standard PRI M84 Gas Buster.  Next rotation shortly should have the Geissele Airborne charging handles on the URGIs.

CD
Link Posted: 7/5/2019 12:25:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wissota4:
Here's another pic, not sure if it's an RC but it is a surefire.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384425/161833_jpeg-1004674.JPG
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Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts:

Ah I forgot about that picture. That's terrible. I do like the fact that guys are getting their rc rebuilt for a reasonable price.
Here's another pic, not sure if it's an RC but it is a surefire.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384425/161833_jpeg-1004674.JPG
It's a 212; you can tell by the end cap weld location.
Link Posted: 7/5/2019 1:16:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:

Just the standard PRI M84 Gas Buster.  Next rotation shortly should have the Geissele Airborne charging handles on the URGIs.

CD
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78Staff is non-compliant lol...

Thanks :)
Link Posted: 7/5/2019 6:03:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:

Just the standard PRI M84 Gas Buster.  Next rotation shortly should have the Geissele Airborne charging handles on the URGIs.

CD
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Link Posted: 7/5/2019 8:16:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AR_Marv:
All this talk of the NT4. The wait begins. Check hasn't even been cashed yet.

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That is sexy.
Link Posted: 7/5/2019 10:25:30 AM EDT
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Would I be banished from the clone community if I just got a Turbo K and sprayed it FDE?
Link Posted: 7/5/2019 10:40:22 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts:
Would I be banished from the clone community if I just got a Turbo K and sprayed it FDE?
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I dont have a clone correct can either. :/
But eventually, I will.
Link Posted: 7/5/2019 10:40:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts:
Would I be banished from the clone community if I just got a Turbo K and sprayed it FDE?
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Yep.
Link Posted: 7/5/2019 10:42:15 AM EDT
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Yep.
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I had a feeling
Link Posted: 7/5/2019 10:45:22 AM EDT
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Yep.
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They say that about 10.5 barrels, hotdog selectors, incorrect sights and stocks. But we get those all the time.
Link Posted: 7/5/2019 10:46:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wissota4:

They say that about 10.5 barrels, hotdog selectors, incorrect sights and stocks. But we get those all the time.
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I nominate you the new clone moderator then.
Link Posted: 7/5/2019 10:58:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By eMc9001:

I nominate you the new clone moderator then.
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We had an old one??
Link Posted: 7/5/2019 11:04:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wissota4:

We had an old one??
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CHINASPEC556.
Link Posted: 7/5/2019 11:18:06 AM EDT
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CHINASPEC556.
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Never heard of her.
Link Posted: 7/5/2019 12:15:30 PM EDT
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CHINASPEC556.
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Link Posted: 7/5/2019 12:30:28 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/5/2019 12:38:45 PM EDT
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Which 45 degree Surefire Scout mount will work with the ATPIAL? Thinking about ditching my Unity Tactical micro hub.
Link Posted: 7/5/2019 12:42:21 PM EDT
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Which 45 degree Surefire Scout mount will work with the ATPIAL? Thinking about ditching my Unity Tactical micro hub.
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Always been a fan of Arisaka products.



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