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Posted: 2/4/2019 11:30:50 PM EDT
Why are they going so high in the EE? I might have to dig into my stash
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My guess is people prefer the way they look because its more like the classic 20-round magazine, but Magpul only make curved 20's now because an anti-tilt follower in a straight magazine doesn't really work.
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No idea! Market will decide. If they sell at that price, then sell them! I've picked them up for $20 used.
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Because people just gotta have anything that 'they don't make anymore '.
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It’s insane.
The gen 3 20 rounders are infinitely better. Better polymer and takes a standard USGI 30 round spring. I have a few I may have to trade into gen 3 20s if they’re going for insane prices. |
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I loved these and bought them when the retailers couldn't get rid of them for free. Sold them in the craze high enough to pay loans off (still less than retailers at the time!). Discontinued since. Supply and demand.
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I have a few, I do like them.
Just like anything else they don’t make anymore - price goes up driven by demand. US Palm AK grips same thing until they started making them again! |
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Why are they going so high in the EE? I might have to dig into my stash View Quote |
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The straight look has a certain classic look for the AR that the slightly curved newer mags do not have. I have a few of them. I like them. I will admit to not looking in the EE. Kind of like the odd colors. There is a market
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Magpul didn't "improve" the 20 round mag design, it was fine the way it was.
What they did was make it use the same parts as the 30, which meant it had to be curved to accommodate the M3 follower. The straight 20 didn't have an "anti-tilt" follower because it didn't need one. It had it's own distinct follower, that was never interchangeable with any of the 30s. IMHO the smart thing to do would have been to use the new polymer and leave the design alone. But what do I know? |
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Not sure what they're actually selling for, but I've seen them listed for over $50/each....
ETA: there are some listed at $75/each |
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I like using the various colors of PMAGs to denote various types of ammo (black = 55 gr M193, foliage = 62 gr M855, FDE = Hornady 75gr SBR). Twenty round mags are easier to shoot off a bench, so I like having the colored 20-round PMAGs.
The prices people are currently asking, however, are ridiculous. The mags are nice, but they're not that special. |
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Hahaha, the people asking $50+/pop are absolute thieves, and the people buying at that price are absolute morons!
I prefer how they look, but no way I'm paying AI mag prices when I can find a brand new mag that works just as well for nearly 1/5 the price! |
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Hahaha, the people asking $50+/pop are absolute theives View Quote |
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Quoted: Why do you hate capitalism?? View Quote |
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Magpul didn't "improve" the 20 round mag design, it was fine the way it was. What they did was make it use the same parts as the 30, which meant it had to be curved to accommodate the M3 follower. The straight 20 didn't have an "anti-tilt" follower because it didn't need one. It had it's own distinct follower, that was never interchangeable with any of the 30s. IMHO the smart thing to do would have been to use the new polymer and leave the design alone. But what do I know? View Quote They dont have a anti-tilt follower so the back of the follower Wont push the bolt catch up. Add a B.A.D. lever and I was at nearly 0% bolt hold opened. The 30s never had a issue Eventually I took the BAD lever off and tossed it on a box and the bolt hold opened issue was only at 20%. I only have 1 straight 20, and its turned into a empty mag at the bottom of my shooting bag. |
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It’s insane. The gen 3 20 rounders are infinitely better. Better polymer and takes a standard USGI 30 round spring. I have a few I may have to trade into gen 3 20s if they’re going for insane prices. View Quote The new curved 20s are a lot longer than the old straights as well, making them less handy. If it is almost the same length and weight as a 30, why would I even want a 20? |
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Hahaha, the people asking $50+/pop are absolute theives, and the people buying at that price are absolute morons! I prefer how they look, but no way I'm paying AI mag prices when I can find a brand new mag that works just as well for nearly 1/5 the price! View Quote |
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Guys, I've stated my OPINION. I'm entitled to it, and you can't change it. Don't like it? Too bad, move on. I owe an explanation of my opinion to no one. People who price gouge during floods/gas shortages/whatever are in the same camp. Or maybe the guys who, the day Browning quit production of the Hi-Power, tacked on an extra $500 because now they're "hard to find."
OR!!! Maybe some of you guys complaining about my opinion are scalping these straight 20s and my comment hit a little too close to home...? |
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Or you're trolling in a tech forum. The price for a discontinued item is what the market determines. I like em, have a few I picked up cheap, not selling. In an undergassed gun, they don't feed as well as a Gen 2.
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Guys, I've stated my OPINION. I'm entitled to it, and you can't change it. Don't like it? Too bad, move on. I owe an explanation of my opinion to no one. People who price gouge during floods/gas shortages/whatever are in the same camp. Or maybe the guys who, the day Browning quit production of the Hi-Power, tacked on an extra $500 because now they're "hard to find." OR!!! Maybe some of you guys complaining about my opinion are scalping these straight 20s and my comment hit a little too close to home...? View Quote As for the actual content of your opinion, when production decreases and supply dwindles, prices necessarily go up, especially if whatever product we’re discussing is desirable for one reason or another. This applies to pretty much everything, whether it be firearms and accessories, motor vehicles, whatever. You must be super pissed at all those “thieves” selling M1 Garands for more than a couple hundred bucks, too. That is why people are ridiculing your “opinion”, because it’s born of ignorance and has no basis in reality. If you have a problem with that being pointed out, you’re well within your right to not click on this thread anymore. ETA: To keep it somewhat technical, I’ve only got a few Gen 2 20 rounders, but they all seem to work well. If there’s that large of a market for them, I may have to think about either trading them for other mags or just selling them outright. |
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All in good fun, guys. Not trolling, just calling it like I see it, that's all. We don't have to agree, and I'm fine with that, as I am with you poking fun of my opinion. This is a two way road, afterall! I wouldn't be on ARF if I had thin skin! I also don't claim to be an expert of economics, so I at leaat acknowledge my inferiority in that area. As Steve Martin would say, "I'm just some guy!"
Anywho, back to the somewhat-technical aspect of things, I do get how the law of supply and demand works. However, I feel Garand prices are what they are because of decades of time without current production and a dwindling supply due to natural degradation through use. The MagPul straights (again, I feel) have had their price driven up somewhat artificially (meaning their price is abnormally high for how little time has passed, relatively speaking). But people will apparently pay those prices, so they'll remain at stupid high levels until people won't. C'est la vie! |
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Huh. I have 4 of these barely used. I've never had problems with them. Didn't know they were a desirable item. Might be worth selling to fund stacking other magazines deeper.
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All in good fun, guys. Not trolling, just calling it like I see it, that's all. We don't have to agree, and I'm fine with that, as I am with you poking fun of my opinion. This is a two way road, afterall! I wouldn't be on ARF if I had thin skin! I also don't claim to be an expert of economics, so I at leaat acknowledge my inferiority in that area. As Steve Martin would say, "I'm just some guy!" Anywho, back to the somewhat-technical aspect of things, I do get how the law of supply and demand works. However, I feel Garand prices are what they are because of decades of time without current production and a dwindling supply due to natural degradation through use. The MagPul straights (again, I feel) have had their price driven up somewhat artificially (meaning their price is abnormally high for how little time has passed, relatively speaking). But people will apparently pay those prices, so they'll remain at stupid high levels until people won't. C'est la vie! View Quote |
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Why do people pay 25k for a M16 when new ones are $1200? View Quote Sure, the straight 20s are harder to find (or maybe not, there’s a metric crap ton of them on the EE right now!), but the curved 20s are a suitable replacement. There is no suitable (legal) replacement for a Class III M16. Your analogy is a poor one, IMO. ETA: Nice avatar. I’ve been to Hell, seen the sign, and it does, indeed, freeze over. The ice cream shop there is amazing, too! |
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Quoted: True, but also Republicans too. Let's not forget that it was the FOPA with the Hughes Amendment attached that outlawed new machine guns, and that was signed by Geroge H. W. Bush, with the support of the NRA! "Freedom's safest place", my ass! View Quote |
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I was on Numrich looking for barrels and found these. Anyone know if they can be unblocked? 15-round Pmags that look like the straight 20's.
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1727600 |
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I bought three cases of them in January 2013 for 9.99 each. One of the best moves I ever made, should have bought twenty cases.
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