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Posted: 9/20/2020 9:56:09 AM EST
I recall a movie (dystopian, post-apocalyptic crap) where some characters found a bunker with a 55 gal drum full of liquid. It was 50+ years old. They tipped it over and rifles fell out (which they picked up and used - with magically found ammo - to exfil the bunker, so ?? ).

If a guy wanted to stack 50 stripped lowers, etc. is there a 'drum full of liquid X' option to seal and forget?
Link Posted: 9/20/2020 10:10:50 AM EST
Cosmoline
Link Posted: 9/21/2020 10:00:38 AM EST
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Originally Posted By LawnGuy:
Cosmoline
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Thanks
Link Posted: 9/21/2020 10:03:41 AM EST
Follow-up question  ...

Anyone know if Ballistol can be purchased in a spray bottle and used as a liquid? Meaning, if I buy it with a certain delivery platform can I simply pour out the liquid and use it or is it formulated differently based on delivery method?
Link Posted: 9/21/2020 10:06:10 AM EST
Umm it's anodized Al.  You don't need cosmoline.  Just seal it and forget it
Link Posted: 9/21/2020 1:11:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Trash_Panda:
Umm it's anodized Al.  You don't need cosmoline.  Just seal it and forget it
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LMAO at the idiot OP!
Link Posted: 9/21/2020 1:29:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sendit14:


LMAO at the idiot OP!
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If you want to spend days cleaning out cosmo when it's go time in 50 years, u can go that route.
Link Posted: 9/21/2020 3:29:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Trash_Panda:


If you want to spend days cleaning out cosmo when it's go time in 50 years, u can go that route.
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I get it (hint: I'm the OP and missed that aluminum parts will be fine with virtually any corrosion prevention).
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 12:40:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Trash_Panda:

If you want to spend days cleaning out cosmo when it's go time in 50 years, u can go that route.
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Days? Try months, maybe years... I've owned combloc surplus AK's and Mosin's in the past. Clean them all you want, even months later the metal would still sweat out Cosmoline.
That's some seriously nasty stuff, it will literally penetrate and "soak" into the metal.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 6:16:40 AM EST
VCI bags.


Lasts 20+ years and no need to worry about if it's oiled up good(or at all).
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 6:28:30 AM EST
Originally Posted By Trash_Panda:
Umm it's anodized Al.  You don't need cosmoline.  Just seal it and forget it
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This is by far the worst advice I've seen on the internet in awhile.

Cosmoline and if you're really crazy, I can tell you how to vacuum pack them to last a lifetime. PM me if interested.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 10:06:11 AM EST
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Nvrmnd
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 11:56:40 AM EST
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Originally Posted By jos51700:


This is by far the worst advice I've seen on the internet in awhile.

Cosmoline and if you're really crazy, I can tell you how to vacuum pack them to last a lifetime. PM me if interested.
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What is your experience in studying the corrosion of Al?  I've done it professionally in Aerospace, not fantasizing about it in a bunker.  In a sealed container (I'd use plastic over steel, in bags as a second layer of defense), you are going to be more than fine in 50 years.  Cosmo will simply make it a pain to use when the time is ready.  But carry on with your uneducated bubba science.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 12:05:22 PM EST
to simplify... you want to store a bunch of guns submerged in a vat of liquid?  Buh whay?
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 1:22:15 PM EST
Originally Posted By sendit14:

If a guy wanted to stack 50 stripped lowers, etc. is there a 'drum full of liquid X' option to seal and forget?
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Originally Posted By sendit14:


LMAO at the idiot OP!
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/thread.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 3:37:25 PM EST
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to simplify... you want to store a bunch of guns submerged in a vat of liquid?  Buh whay?
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LOL ... to move this from philosophical to practical ...

I have 25 stripped lowers in boxes in a rubbermaid container (well, HAD them before, ya know, the boating accident) and I'm thinking of buying like 5 a month and stacking. So what's my alternative to more rubbermaid bins?

I have a Homer bucket ... it comes with a top ... I figured fill it with 10W30 and start dropping stripped lowers, stripped uppers, buffer tubes, etc into it and just throw in more each month. But then I realized that it can't be that simple ... right?

And here we are ...


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Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Originally Posted By sendit14:
If a guy wanted to stack 50 stripped lowers, etc. is there a 'drum full of liquid X' option to seal and forget?

Originally Posted By sendit14:
LMAO at the idiot OP!


/thread.


I think you drafted a post like this above but decided against keeping it? Then the stupid continued and you couldn't tolerate it, huh? I've been there ...
Link Posted: 10/15/2020 6:35:39 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sendit14:


LOL ... to move this from philosophical to practical ...

I have 25 stripped lowers in boxes in a rubbermaid container (well, HAD them before, ya know, the boating accident) and I'm thinking of buying like 5 a month and stacking. So what's my alternative to more rubbermaid bins?

I have a Homer bucket ... it comes with a top ... I figured fill it with 10W30 and start dropping stripped lowers, stripped uppers, buffer tubes, etc into it and just throw in more each month. But then I realized that it can't be that simple ... right?

And here we are ...


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Why don't you just build rifles from those parts? Forget the stupid oil in a bucket idea and the even dumber lost in a boating accident garbage. Build rifles, enjoy rifles and if anyone gets stupid enough to try to take said rifles, shoot them with those rifles.

And honestly I am still trying to understand what you were trying to say about Balistol. Damned good oil BTW.
Link Posted: 10/15/2020 7:33:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sendit14:
Follow-up question  ...

Anyone know if Ballistol can be purchased in a spray bottle and used as a liquid? Meaning, if I buy it with a certain delivery platform can I simply pour out the liquid and use it or is it formulated differently based on delivery method?
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https://www.amazon.com/Ballistol-Multi-Purpose-Lubricant-Cleaner-Protectant/dp/B00A470FN6


https://s3714.americommerce.com/package-f.aspx


https://wisementrading.com/hunting/ballistol.htm


Ballistol is good stuff & works on all kinds of things.
Link Posted: 10/17/2020 9:02:10 AM EST
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I just don’t like the smell. Other than that it works great.
Link Posted: 10/17/2020 1:38:29 PM EST
This was shown in one of the early episodes of The 100
Link Posted: 10/18/2020 3:16:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JupiterMaximus:


Why don't you just build rifles from those parts? Forget the stupid oil in a bucket idea and the even dumber lost in a boating accident garbage. Build rifles, enjoy rifles and if anyone gets stupid enough to try to take said rifles, shoot them with those rifles.

And honestly I am still trying to understand what you were trying to say about Balistol. Damned good oil BTW.
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Originally Posted By sendit14:


LOL ... to move this from philosophical to practical ...

I have 25 stripped lowers in boxes in a rubbermaid container (well, HAD them before, ya know, the boating accident) and I'm thinking of buying like 5 a month and stacking. So what's my alternative to more rubbermaid bins?

I have a Homer bucket ... it comes with a top ... I figured fill it with 10W30 and start dropping stripped lowers, stripped uppers, buffer tubes, etc into it and just throw in more each month. But then I realized that it can't be that simple ... right?

And here we are ...




Why don't you just build rifles from those parts? Forget the stupid oil in a bucket idea and the even dumber lost in a boating accident garbage. Build rifles, enjoy rifles and if anyone gets stupid enough to try to take said rifles, shoot them with those rifles.

And honestly I am still trying to understand what you were trying to say about Balistol. Damned good oil BTW.


I agree to using a rifle if one is available. This thread is about parts; specifically, buying over time to average out the cost. Think about all the "My granpappy bought X from a catalog for a-buck-three-eighty and now they cost $$$$$" comments. So if a guy buys parts over time, he won't get a rifle for a-buck-three-eighty but he also won't pay $$$$$.

Ballistol - if I buy a can of aerosol and spray some into a small bowl to experiment, will I get the same results as if I buy it in liquid form? Or is the formulation different for liquid than for aerosol?

Link Posted: 10/18/2020 3:16:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sendit14:
Follow-up question  ...

Anyone know if Ballistol can be purchased in a spray bottle and used as a liquid? Meaning, if I buy it with a certain delivery platform can I simply pour out the liquid and use it or is it formulated differently based on delivery method?


https://www.amazon.com/Ballistol-Multi-Purpose-Lubricant-Cleaner-Protectant/dp/B00A470FN6


https://s3714.americommerce.com/package-f.aspx


https://wisementrading.com/hunting/ballistol.htm


Ballistol is good stuff & works on all kinds of things.


Thanks
Link Posted: 10/18/2020 3:17:51 PM EST
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Dup
Link Posted: 10/18/2020 3:19:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mcantu:
This was shown in one of the early episodes of The 100
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That sounds like one of those silly 'gurl pwr' shows I was forced to watch so it makes sense ...
Link Posted: 10/18/2020 3:25:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By jasonm4:
VCI bags.

Lasts 20+ years and no need to worry about if it's oiled up good(or at all).
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Yes. I bought a roll of 18" x a lot of yards of VCI paper that I have wrapped a number of things in for long term storage.

VCI Paper
VCI Bags

For something cosmo-ish get Rust Veto
Link Posted: 10/18/2020 3:50:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Lexington:


Yes. I bought a roll of 18" x a lot of yards of VCI paper that I have wrapped a number of things in for long term storage.

VCI Paper
VCI Bags

For something cosmo-ish get Rust Veto
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Originally Posted By Lexington:
Originally Posted By jasonm4:
VCI bags.

Lasts 20+ years and no need to worry about if it's oiled up good(or at all).


Yes. I bought a roll of 18" x a lot of yards of VCI paper that I have wrapped a number of things in for long term storage.

VCI Paper
VCI Bags

For something cosmo-ish get Rust Veto


Thanks
Link Posted: 10/19/2020 8:33:26 AM EST
For simple stripped lowers, I'm with trash panda. Nothing crazy, if anything at all, is necessary to protect anodized aluminum. I'd wipe them down with some oil, and zip lock bag them. If you want fancy, throw in a strip of the corrosion paper and vacuum seal them.

You'd probably want to turn the rifle on yourself after cleaning out 50 weapons of cosmoline. You'd probably need to stash a heat gun or toaster oven and gallons of acetone to clean up all that cosmoline too.

I suggest you go with the CLP and ziplock route, until you can get the parts to build them out. Test fire/zero, clean, then coat in hydrophobic grease (just the steel parts), and vacuum seal. If you take the time to paint the barrels with grill/engine paint, prep them by acetone cleaning then sun-baking or heat gun to about 100-120°, spray, and wait a day before final assembly, then you should never have rust on the exterior. Rustoleum grill paint is not readily dissolved by common gun oils/solvents or motor oil.

I've never seen anodized aluminum or brass corrode, even after salt water exposure. The bits where the anodizing is worn off? They can corrode like a sumbitch.

Iirc you can get ballistol in cans/bottles that aren't aerosol.
Link Posted: 10/19/2020 10:29:42 AM EST
OP, it's your stuff, do what you want. 24" x 200 yards of VCI paper is only $84. You'll have enough to give away to friends who have the same idea.

My roll is 18" x 200 yards and I got it directly from Daubert Cromwell, but I don't see they sell direct anymore. Paid about $57.
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