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Posted: 5/12/2020 9:55:59 AM EDT
I've been trying to begin the practice of doubling up on ear pro:  plugs and muffs.

Being a lifelong ear plug user, I'm finding that none of my recent acquisitions of muffs allow as good a cheek weld as I get with plugs alone.

Is there a type of slimline muffs with good hearing protection that has an incredibly slim profile?

Is there a type of ear plug so good it makes muffs unnecessary?
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 10:25:42 AM EDT
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Is there a type of ear plug so good it makes muffs unnecessary?
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Custom fit may be an option.... check either local hearing aid companies but there are also some "make a mold at home and send it in" services
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 10:57:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By eye-gor:Custom fit may be an option.... check either local hearing aid companies but there are also some "make a mold at home and send it in" services
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I have the ones from a hearing aid specialist. Not cheap, but they attenuate dangerous noises easily. I used to do a lot of work inside power plants and these worked great. You can walk off a unit and right into a meeting, w/o having to remove them. I know the newer ones you can get bluetooth installed.
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 12:28:00 PM EDT
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I still use both muffs and plugs.  The plugs I use are Hearos Xtreme Protection and do work pretty well without muffs.  I still get a pretty good "POP" from my compensated rifles but it isn't painful but still more comfortable with muffs over them.  My muffs are Peltor Tactical Sport electronic muffs.  The audio in the muffs is enough that I can hear with the plugs in but I have to listen closely however my hearing isn't that great.  Between the two I just hear a pop when I shoot or someone shoots near me.

The muffs do get in the way of a good cheek weld but I manage to work around it.  Those I have are not as bad as some and the image in the link above shows that they are heavily beveled at the bottom to help with that problem.  It doesn't eliminate it but I have used worse.
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 12:37:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By eye-gor:
 

Custom fit may be an option.... check either local hearing aid companies but there are also some "make a mold at home and send it in" services
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sometimes when doing clays I'll use only decibullz for the same cheek weld reason.  They fit snug and keep out the noise nicely.  They can be a little uncomfortable almost like they're too "filling", sort of make me want to gag sometimes (insert cock jokes here).
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 12:42:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DV8EDD:


sometimes when doing clays I'll use only decibullz for the same cheek weld reason.  They fit snug and keep out the noise nicely.  They can be a little uncomfortable almost like they're too "filling", sort of make me want to gag sometimes (insert cock jokes here).
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Those are pricey, but if they work....


Do they really offer $75 worth of protection over, say, rubber USGI ear plugs?
Link Posted: 5/12/2020 1:31:58 PM EDT
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I've been using SureFire EarPro ear plugs for years and I love them. You can actually hear very well while wearing them and they muffle gun fire very well.
Link Posted: 5/13/2020 12:17:08 AM EDT
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I've been using SureFire EarPro ear plugs for years and I love them. You can actually hear very well while wearing them and they muffle gun fire very well.
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I use the Surefire earplugs as well and like them quite well.  They really get me n your ear good.  Felt kind of weird the first few times I used them.

I wear glasses and don’t feel like I get a perfect seal with the frames under the full ear muffs.
Link Posted: 6/20/2020 9:36:05 PM EDT
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I've been trying to begin the practice of doubling up on ear pro:  plugs and muffs.

Being a lifelong ear plug user, I'm finding that none of my recent acquisitions of muffs allow as good a cheek weld as I get with plugs alone.

Is there a type of slimline muffs with good hearing protection that has an incredibly slim profile?

Is there a type of ear plug so good it makes muffs unnecessary?
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I use the generic Howard Leight electronic muffs with Otto Noizebarrier Electronic Earbuds w/ skullscrew tips. Not only does it protect but you can hear a convo 50 yards away.

Noizebarrier alone is good with the skullscrews. No ringing.
Link Posted: 6/22/2020 11:02:13 AM EDT
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Look at NRR ratings. The cone shaped 3M disposable foam plugs have 33NRR, which is excellent. They work very well when inserted into your ears correctly. Most people do not insert them correctly.

I have Peltor Sport Tactical 500s for electronic muffs. They have 26NRR, which is decent. The sound is excellent, and they're comfortable for hours. I have no problem with check welds with them. I do not see ear protection as a place to try to save money.

Some of the most expensive ear pro for shooting has terrible NRR. I have never seen a slim muff that delivers a high NRR. For recreational shooting, I cannot see the point in spending hundreds of dollars for 20 or so NRR muffs.
Link Posted: 6/23/2020 10:22:39 AM EDT
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I run Grizzly ears for rifle shooting and during the hotter summer months.
They work pretty well once you get the ear bits sorted out. They are not as fast as my  Walkers Slim muffs, but block out the same levels.
They have an odd echo to them too, but you get used to it.

https://grizzly-ears.com/
Link Posted: 6/23/2020 10:24:01 AM EDT
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Look at NRR ratings. The cone shaped 3M disposable foam plugs have 33NRR, which is excellent. They work very well when inserted into your ears correctly. Most people do not insert them correctly.
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It's been years since I used those.  What is "correctly?"
Link Posted: 6/25/2020 4:21:20 PM EDT
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Those are pricey, but if they work....


Do they really offer $75 worth of protection over, say, rubber USGI ear plugs?
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Those, sir, are not pricey.

If you've ever owned custom molded earplugs, you would see the light.

I have Sportear/Axil Custom 360s.  They were a bit more than that, but electronic custom earpro is something everyone should try.  It's made range time that much more enjoyable...well worth the expense.
Link Posted: 7/12/2020 11:09:12 PM EDT
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Another thing to consider is that 'slim' profile earpro will have less NRR than
thicker profile earpro. If you go thin, you'd probably are going to have to run plugs  
in conjunction (especially shooting shorter barrelled carbines).
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