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Posted: 9/10/2023 6:26:55 AM EST
I’m moving an EOTech from a 16” gun over to an 11.5” SBR and considering replacing it with a 3.5-4x ACOG. I’ve never owned one before but I think I like the idea of replacing the battery every couple years better than constantly degrading tritium that has to be sent in for replacement. Comparatively, the LED models don’t seem to be very popular compared to the dual illumination versions.

Any reason not to go LED? I suppose anything with electronics might be less rugged but my other Trijicon battery optics seem bomb proof.
PWS
Link Posted: 9/10/2023 9:27:39 AM EST
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They're slightly heavier, but you can control the brightness how you see fit, and the forward RMR mount is tits. Having had a number of different traditional ACOGs, tritium illumination is pretty useless. A neat bullet point, but useless.

I like my TA110 a lot. I wish they'd make an LED TA33.
Link Posted: 9/10/2023 11:39:17 AM EST
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TA110s are heavy sumbishes.. biggest reason I don’t own any.

I’ve got 6 ACOGs and am disappointed big T hasn’t really innovated in the ACOG space.

Link Posted: 9/10/2023 1:32:06 PM EST
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I had 3 TA110s with LED problems.   Converted to TA11s. No regrets.
Link Posted: 9/10/2023 1:43:12 PM EST
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I would argue the EO Tech is the better choice on an 11.5” gun. That said, I’d choose an Aimpoint or Holosun over an EO Tech due to battery life alone.

I don’t have any LED ACOGs, but the beauty of the fiber optic It’s rugged simplicity. If I had to choose an ACOG to mount on a 11.5” carbine, it would be a TA44 1.5x16

ETA: am I understanding you are placing the EO Tech on the 11.5” an are looking for a replacement for the 16” gun?

In either case, I still believe fiber optic is the way to go with ACOG.
Link Posted: 9/10/2023 1:55:17 PM EST
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I would argue the EO Tech is the better choice on an 11.5” gun. That said, I’d choose an Aimpoint or Holosun over an EO Tech due to battery life alone.

I don’t have any LED ACOGs, but the beauty of the fiber optic It’s rugged simplicity. If I had to choose an ACOG to mount on a 11.5” carbine, it would be a TA44 1.5x16

ETA: am I understanding you are placing the EO Tech on the 11.5” an are looking for a replacement for the 16” gun?

In either case, I still believe fiber optic is the way to go with ACOG.
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I am moving the EOTech from a 16” gun to the 11.5 and want the ACOG for the 16” gun.
Link Posted: 9/10/2023 2:26:18 PM EST
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The tritium is next to useless anyway, so it doesn't matter if it dims.
Link Posted: 9/10/2023 6:55:23 PM EST
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Strong agree. I buy old ass ACOGs regularly. They’re cheaper because the tritium is dim. I couldn’t care less so that’s just cheaper ACOGs for me.
Link Posted: 9/11/2023 12:42:32 PM EST
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Another vote for tritium being nearly useless.  The durability, simplicity, weight, and clarity eclipse what little benefit a glow in the dark reticle serves.

ETA:

As to the OP, I don't see the utility of LED, just more recurrent costs (battery replacement) and weight.  I do see the utility of the forward RMR mount, however.
Link Posted: 9/12/2023 9:32:30 PM EST
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I really like the TA02 I have.

I’ve used nearly all the models. But the combination of dot mount location( I stuck an acro on mine) and led brightness/adjustability it’s a pretty rad Jack of all trades set up and still ways less than lpvo combos.
Link Posted: 9/12/2023 9:41:00 PM EST
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I’m moving an EOTech from a 16” gun over to an 11.5” SBR and considering replacing it with a 3.5-4x ACOG. I’ve never owned one before but I think I like the idea of replacing the battery every couple years better than constantly degrading tritium that has to be sent in for replacement. Comparatively, the LED models don’t seem to be very popular compared to the dual illumination versions.

Any reason not to go LED? I suppose anything with electronics might be less rugged but my other Trijicon battery optics seem bomb proof.
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 personally I like having the tritium & a Rem Acog. (Battery Illumination)  best of all worlds.
Link Posted: 9/13/2023 7:05:46 AM EST
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None of the LED models have the reticle I want (m193 chevron) so it's an easy choice not to buy them.  Also heavier.  Control over the brightness is pretty nice though, it's much more crisp looking without all that glued up FO bloomy mess.  Nothing a little tape won't fix.
Link Posted: 9/13/2023 7:07:32 AM EST
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I would say taht the LED ACOGs are better than FI ACOGs as you can dial in exactly your illumination ...

However, I'd say no one does it better in a prism optic than BROWE ...
Link Posted: 9/13/2023 8:50:47 AM EST
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It’s a lot of weight for 3.5 X but the glass is perfect and the eye relief is great as well. The 4X LED is nose to the charging handle so you need a piggyback or offset RMR for things like a hog charging you, etc.
Link Posted: 9/17/2023 11:13:04 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/17/2023 3:47:29 PM EST
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Biggest problem with them is they left out the fiber optics.
This makes you totally dependent on battery power, good, bad, but totally dependent.
I have a zippered cover for my TA11C, but not my other two ACOGs (HINT).
Plus, maintenance free, but not if they don't work.
Now, I understand that many don't like the Donut of Death, but this is a combat optic.
It's not for shooting little groups in target paper.
Trijicon f-cked up when they didn't pursue the 16" AR shooting MK262 or similar.
Or maybe they didn't.   They would have probably only sold a couple of thousand of them.
And they had the TA11C sales for that. And it's better than the other .308 scopes because it fits 262 ballistics.




Link Posted: 9/17/2023 4:54:34 PM EST
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Biggest problem with them is they left out the fiber optics.
This makes you totally dependent on battery power, good, bad, but totally dependent.
I have a zippered cover for my TA11C, but not my other two ACOGs (HINT).
Plus, maintenance free, but not if they don't work.
Now, I understand that many don't like the Donut of Death, but this is a combat optic.
It's not for shooting little groups in target paper.
Trijicon f-cked up when they didn't pursue the 16" AR shooting MK262 or similar.
Or maybe they didn't.   They would have probably only sold a couple of thousand of them.
And they had the TA11C sales for that. And it's better than the other .308 scopes because it fits 262 ballistics.

https://i.imgur.com/7Ffwuyw.jpg


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LED ACOGs are the ACOG master race

The TA02 ACOG will have you back to buying batteries, all for one feature.

Link Posted: 9/18/2023 1:17:26 AM EST
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The tritium is next to useless anyway, so it doesn't matter if it dims.
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This

LED is better imo

Trijicon needs to get off their lazy asses and do the mini/compact Acog line in LED and move the RDS piggyback mounting bosses in the forward position like the other LED models
Link Posted: 9/18/2023 5:44:17 AM EST
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Agreed on the minis. They need to figure out how to do a coin battery and keep the weight very minimal. 20oz is stupid heavy for a prism optic.
Link Posted: 9/18/2023 7:49:30 AM EST
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LED ACOGs are the ACOG master race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CCGjZ4pzCU
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Interesting video, but, if Trijicon doesn't get it together, don't send in any ACOG to be rebuilt, re-charged. or whatever or repaired.
I'll stick with my TA31F, TA11C (original), and TA55 which I had rebuilt into a TA55A when they were good at that.
Link Posted: 9/18/2023 8:45:38 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/18/2023 9:25:56 AM EST
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Do you have it available for the TA11 also.
It is cheap enough to try, anyway, and can be transferred to another unit as well.
Link Posted: 9/19/2023 3:58:14 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/25/2023 10:03:15 PM EST
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Is anyone else experiencing bad / decreased AA battery life in their TA02?  I just did my first dated battery check (wrote date on battery with sharpie) and at illumination level 4 it lasted 49 days or less than 1200 hours. That’s less than 10% of the stated battery life.

Using high quality lithium energizer batteries rifle is stored inside at room temperature. I just need to get around to reaching out to trijicon but yeah. I’ve even experimented with putting a fresh battery in and leaving it at the off setting by the lowest level and the battery still dies within a couple to few months.

I could live with 10,000 hours or 400 days or something that would allow me to change batteries once a year. But something seems very wrong with less than 1,200 hours.
Link Posted: 9/26/2023 1:41:02 PM EST
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Is anyone else experiencing bad / decreased AA battery life in their TA02?  I just did my first dated battery check (wrote date on battery with sharpie) and at illumination level 4 it lasted 49 days or less than 1200 hours. That’s less than 10% of the stated battery life.

Using high quality lithium energizer batteries rifle is stored inside at room temperature. I just need to get around to reaching out to trijicon but yeah. I’ve even experimented with putting a fresh battery in and leaving it at the off setting by the lowest level and the battery still dies within a couple to few months.

I could live with 10,000 hours or 400 days or something that would allow me to change batteries once a year. But something seems very wrong with less than 1,200 hours.
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I have the same issue, just put a new lithium battery in a few months back and it's already out of juice despite being on a low setting. Either the battery estimates are way off or something is causing abnormal drain.
Link Posted: 9/26/2023 2:51:35 PM EST
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I think I'll be happy with what I've got.

Link Posted: 9/26/2023 9:42:13 PM EST
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Is anyone else experiencing bad / decreased AA battery life in their TA02?  I just did my first dated battery check (wrote date on battery with sharpie) and at illumination level 4 it lasted 49 days or less than 1200 hours. That's less than 10% of the stated battery life.

Using high quality lithium energizer batteries rifle is stored inside at room temperature. I just need to get around to reaching out to trijicon but yeah. I've even experimented with putting a fresh battery in and leaving it at the off setting by the lowest level and the battery still dies within a couple to few months.

I could live with 10,000 hours or 400 days or something that would allow me to change batteries once a year. But something seems very wrong with less than 1,200 hours.
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Sounds like vampiric drain, hold old is your unit?
Link Posted: 9/27/2023 5:19:11 AM EST
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This is why LED ACOGs are no bueno.  Get a TA11 or TA31.

I had 3 LED versions with problems.  Trijicon does not do electronics well.
Link Posted: 9/27/2023 6:34:10 AM EST
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I think I'll be happy with what I've got.

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@edwin907

What have you got?
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 8:40:32 AM EST
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@edwin907

What have you got?
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TA11C
Link Posted: 9/29/2023 4:24:30 AM EST
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TA11C
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@edwin907

What have you got?


TA11C




@edwin907

What cover is that?
Link Posted: 9/29/2023 5:40:52 PM EST
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@edwin907

What cover is that?
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Scopefly.

Here is some of the info on it.

http://www.03designgroup.com/reviews/scopefly-for-the-trijicon-acog

Wish it was available again.
Link Posted: 9/29/2023 6:45:52 PM EST
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Shaffer has a cover with adjustable brightness for some ACOG models.

https://www.shaffermachining.com/product-page/acog-fiber-optic-cover

I believe they plan to expand the line in the future.
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