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Posted: 6/11/2019 10:45:26 AM EDT
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Mod 1 is a very solid choice, will perform well in all aspects.
Mod 2 add some improvements to the operating system, and has what some consider a more ergonomic rail platform. A low round count Mod 1 May be close in price to a new Mod 2. Edit: eventually you’ll have both, just the way it is. |
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Posted: 6/11/2019 11:12:17 AM EDT
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@WhiskersTheCat
Someone here is in need of your assistance. |
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Posted: 6/11/2019 11:51:54 AM EDT
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@themissinglink
Thank you for the input. It's about $150 dollar less for the mod 1 plus he is including a $200 larue rifle soft case. Would you go with the low round count mod 1 or the new in box mod 2? |
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Posted: 6/11/2019 11:55:08 AM EDT
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@themissinglink Thank you for the input. It's about $150 dollar less for the mod 1 plus he is including a $200 larue rifle soft case. Would you go with the low round count mod 1 or the new in box mod 2? |
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Posted: 6/11/2019 11:56:17 AM EDT
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I'd go for the new rifle but idc about cases.
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Posted: 6/11/2019 12:02:05 PM EDT
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I'd go for the new rifle but idc about cases. |
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Posted: 6/11/2019 12:02:46 PM EDT
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@themissinglink Thank you for the input. It's about $150 dollar less for the mod 1 plus he is including a $200 larue rifle soft case. Would you go with the low round count mod 1 or the new in box mod 2? Mod 1, and get a Mod 2 Upper later. |
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Posted: 6/11/2019 12:04:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @bigd81285 Mod 1, and get a Mod 2 Upper later. |
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Posted: 6/11/2019 12:05:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @bigd81285 Mod 1, and get a Mod 2 Upper later. 
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Posted: 6/11/2019 12:15:07 PM EDT
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I bought a complete Mod 2 upper on the EE brand new for under $1400. Then bought the complete IWS lower for $800.
It’s my favorite carbine by far. Added a Sandcutter BC. No need for Geissele parts IMO. The KAC trigger is great. |
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Posted: 6/11/2019 12:54:12 PM EDT
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This question pops up periodically and has garnered some passionate debate in the past. The Mod 1 is a very capable rifle and will answer the mail in terms of being a reliable go-to carbine. The Mod 2 is an improvement over an already proven design, but is arguably more ergonomic with improvements to the gas system, while the Mod 1 is more aesthetically pleasing, retaining a very classic KAC look. Having own(ed) several Mod 1 carbines (16, 14.5, 11.5, and SR30 Mod 1 if you count that), if buying today I'd opt for the Mod 2 for the improvements and ergonomics.
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Posted: 6/11/2019 1:25:37 PM EDT
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So I'm looking into getting the kac scene but I'm new to it. I've done some research on the differnece between the mod 1s and mod 2s. I have a few questions though First, what value should I be looking at? I'm debating between 2 currently. A mod , excellent Conditon with around 500 rounds through it, that has the qd cup lower with mams & Giselle trigger and a brand new mod 2 with mams, Giselle trigger, axts safeties & raptor charging handle? Second, what's everyone's preference mod 1 or mod 2? Last, any other differences other then the handguards and different gas system? Having owned two Mod 2s, I will say from my experience Mod 1 is the way to go. The difference in the Mod 2 gas system is over-hyped. I noticed zero difference compared to the Mod 1 in terms of recoil, accuracy or any of that. Rail between URX 3.1 vs URX 4, only you can decide. But for me the URX 3.1 is more comfortable when in use, has better mounting options and looks better. If you are big into keymod or MLOK, then I could see going with a URX 4. In the end I sold my Mod 2s and only own Mod 1s. Mod 1 does everything the Mod 2 can do. The other thing to consider, Mod 1s are no longer made. Mod 2s are. You can always buy a Mod 2 in the future, but finding a nice QD lower Mod 1 rifle might be harder. If I was in your position I would get the Mod 1 today. |
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Posted: 6/11/2019 1:55:53 PM EDT
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For your first, I would go with a Mod2 for the reasons mentioned already. Mod1 is a great rifle though.
So instead of rewriting what others said, I'm basically here to cast a vote. |
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Posted: 6/11/2019 2:13:00 PM EDT
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but can you "go to war" with it? thats the question
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Posted: 6/11/2019 2:20:10 PM EDT
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Personally I would go with the mod1 with the qd cup lower because the value is never going to go down.They dont make the mod1 or the qd cup lower anymore and they are getting harder and harder to find.Outside of the updated gas system attachment and the rail they are the same rifle.I have both mod1 and mod2 and personally I think the mod1 is the better buy at this point.You can always snag a mod 2 upper new or from the EE later on.
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Posted: 6/11/2019 2:23:22 PM EDT
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SR15E3 IWS with 3t brake is still master race, check the EE.
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Posted: 6/11/2019 3:58:23 PM EDT
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No need for Geissele parts IMO. The KAC trigger is great. That’s what I was thinking. It seems a downgrade to stray from stock configuration on either Mod. |
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Posted: 6/12/2019 1:57:06 PM EDT
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Mod 1 is a very solid choice, will perform well in all aspects. Mod 2 add some improvements to the operating system, and has what some consider a more ergonomic rail platform. A low round count Mod 1 May be close in price to a new Mod 2. Edit: eventually you’ll have both, just the way it is. Within the past few months I purchased an 11.5 SR-16 (essentially a Mod1) then just last week I got a 14.5 SR-15 Mod2. |
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Posted: 6/12/2019 11:14:06 PM EDT
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I really like the Mod 2 gas system. No pinned gas block, instead the block is retained with a castle nut, and the gas tube is straight and uses a JIC fitting that threads to the gas block, no pins there either.
You can't buy a new mod 1 upper as far as I know, unless they do another run of SR16 uppers or something. QD cup lowers are pretty desirable from what I've read. Rails are subjective. I like the Mlok URX4, I think it's a pretty cool rail. But I like the URX 3.1 much more, and split the difference on my rifle - it's a Mod 2, but I had the URX4 swapped with the 3.1, best of both worlds for me. |
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Posted: 6/14/2019 4:09:37 PM EDT
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Mod 2 for shooting / up to date version
Mod 1 is still popular due to looks and collectability mostly (that's not to say it's not a great shooter as well though, obviously. |
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Posted: 6/14/2019 4:10:56 PM EDT
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This question pops up periodically and has garnered some passionate debate in the past. The Mod 1 is a very capable rifle and will answer the mail in terms of being a reliable go-to carbine. The Mod 2 is an improvement over an already proven design, but is arguably more ergonomic with improvements to the gas system, while the Mod 1 is more aesthetically pleasing, retaining a very classic KAC look. Having own(ed) several Mod 1 carbines (16, 14.5, 11.5, and SR30 Mod 1 if you count that), if buying today I'd opt for the Mod 2 for the improvements and ergonomics. This. Kac didn't make a new mod for the hell of it. It's an upgrade. |
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Posted: 6/14/2019 10:34:55 PM EDT
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Make sure to go in all the random gun stores when traveling around, you may come across a deal!
I just came across a new Mod 2 14.5" SBR marked down to $1599 while in Florida for work. |
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Posted: 6/15/2019 9:16:59 AM EDT
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Make sure to go in all the random gun stores when traveling around, you may come across a deal! I just came across a new Mod 2 14.5" SBR marked down to $1599 while in Florida for work. |
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