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Posted: 5/31/2020 1:20:16 PM EST
I wanted to add a spare mag carrier to my pistol brace but wasn't sure if it was kosher with the ATF's back & forth wishy-washy stance on what is & isn't legal for AR pistols/braces.  Is something like this OK, or does anyone even know yet?  IDK if my google-fu & duckduckgo-fu powers are failing, but I couldn't find anything dealing with it.  Has anyone here heard or seen a decision pertaining to it?

https://www.amazon.com/CONDOR-Butt-Stock-Mag-Pouch/dp/B01NCS4HND
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Link Posted: 5/31/2020 1:47:51 PM EST
[#1]
only way to know for sure is a letter to the ATF.

IMHO, it should be fine as long as:

1. It doesn't look like you are trying to make a cheek riser.

2. It doesn't interfere with it being used as an arm brace.

Seriously, who really knows? The whole thing is a manufacture problem.

Lol, just to be safe, attach the extra mag carrier to your forearm.
Link Posted: 5/31/2020 2:17:10 PM EST
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only way to know for sure is a letter to the ATF.

IMHO, it should be fine as long as:

1. It doesn't look like you are trying to make a cheek riser.

2. It doesn't interfere with it being used as an arm brace.

Seriously, who really knows? The whole thing is a manufacture problem.

Lol, just to be safe, attach the extra mag carrier to your forearm.
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I thought about both those points you brought up and since so far I only have blade type braces, I first thought I'd attach it to the right side (I'm right handed) so it couldn't be construed as a cheek riser.  Then I thought it might interfere with using it as a proper arm brace, but I wouldn't know for sure till I mounted it on there & tried.  I would imagine if its the type of brace that goes on top of your arm, I'd be able to put it on the right side as my arm would then still fit into the slot, but as I don't own any, I'm not sure how well it would attach.  So I don't want to buy a new brace that I don't know if the carriers would mount very well and if it also might not be 100% kosher with agency that shall not be named.
Link Posted: 5/31/2020 2:29:55 PM EST
[#3]
It could go both ways.  Depends on how your local DA feels that day.  Me personally, I don't modify or a fuck with braces in any way just to avoid a ride; but you do you.
Link Posted: 5/31/2020 2:35:26 PM EST
[#4]
All I could find

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Link Posted: 5/31/2020 4:37:28 PM EST
[#5]
After some more researching I came across these 2 items.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/05/30/pistol-storage-device-brace/

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/11/01/sb-tactical-brace-storage-accessories/


The first one seems to have been given a green light by the agency that shall not be named.


"The BATFE ruled that installing the PSD does not change the classification of your pistol into a short-barreled rifle (S.B.R.)
Fully adjustable for maximum comfort and retention
Fully adjustable to fit almost every pistol buffer tube & almost every magazine type*
The only pistol device that is anti-rotational and that allows user to adjust the length without damaging the buffer tube.
Limitless storage configurations, not just for magazines. Tourniquets, slings and other mission essential gear can easily be stored in the PSD – View all configurations in our gallery
Made in America, by Americans, with American tooling and parts"

*There is no commercial or Mil-Spec standard diameter for pistol buffer tubes. The PSD can easily fit the majority of all pistol tubes ranging from 1.25”- 1.18”



I did not see any indication the 2nd one has been approved or not by the ATF.  Both comment sections have a lot of people talking about they wouldn't chance being the one to be the test case for it.  I remember seeing that the ATF wasn't going to evaluate each brace coming out, but I can't help but wonder if they might change their minds again & just say they are all a no go.  I guess they are just as confused about the terminology "Shall not be infringed" as I am about their vague & constantly changing letters & decisions.
Link Posted: 5/31/2020 5:20:01 PM EST
[#6]
I would not modify my braces in any way shape or form as the shit heads have shown they'll go out of there way to screw you if they really want to.
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