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Posted: 1/4/2021 12:36:04 PM EST
I purchased a lot of these years ago off midwayusa and had good success with them. Recently I noticed they have them back in stock and I want to buy them. Any reason why it's not flying off the shelves and midwayusa has so much in stock? I notice other ammo that is being sold sells out almost immediately. They recently had Blackhills 77gr OTM for sale last week that went within the hour. So this ammo being in stock still tells me something might be wrong.
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Posted: 1/4/2021 12:42:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/4/2021 12:47:25 PM EST by ScoutH57]
Originally Posted By dalle0001: I purchased a lot of these years ago off midwayusa and had good success with them. Recently I noticed they have them back in stock and I want to buy them. Any reason why it's not flying off the shelves and midwayusa has so much in stock? I notice other ammo that is being sold sells out almost immediately. They recently had Blackhills 77gr OTM for sale last week that went within the hour. So this ammo being in stock still tells me something might be wrong. Yeah its $1.20 a round lol. It is good stuff still though, I just bought some from midway a few weeks ago, same great performance of the stuff I bought on sale from them for before the panic buying started. Me and a good friend have shot a lot of it. IMO in accuracy and velocity it is every bit as good as Black Hills. I don't know what the actual projectile is, looks like a Sierra 77 smk but I imagine it's an isreali produced projectile. ETA: Well they advertise it as being an SMK, brain fart |
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Posted: 1/4/2021 1:36:41 PM EST
ya good ammo in my experience with a couple different barrels. 1 MOA all day long in an LWRC 18" DMR upper.
about 1.25 MOA in a FN CL 20" GI profile barrel than was cut back to 18". |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 1/4/2021 2:24:58 PM EST
Originally Posted By dalle0001: I purchased a lot of these years ago off midwayusa and had good success with them. Recently I noticed they have them back in stock and I want to buy them. Any reason why it's not flying off the shelves and midwayusa has so much in stock? I notice other ammo that is being sold sells out almost immediately. They recently had Blackhills 77gr OTM for sale last week that went within the hour. So this ammo being in stock still tells me something might be wrong. @dalle0001 The reason is that it's $1.20/round. It used to be about $0.55. In my MK12, it's 1/2-3/4 MOA. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 1/4/2021 6:16:54 PM EST
Excellent loading of the 77gr SMK. My stash is dwindling unfortunately.
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USA
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Posted: 1/4/2021 10:07:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/4/2021 10:08:32 PM EST by dalle0001]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By QtrMOA: @dalle0001 The reason is that it's $1.20/round. It used to be about $0.55. In my MK12, it's 1/2-3/4 MOA. It's quite possibly one of the best ammo. My mk262 supply is getting low. I'm at 1200 rounds of Blackhills mk262 and I'm going to start saving it by buying these ammo. I checked today and they actually have 20 packs available as well. So it appears they have ample supply. I'll monitor the 20 packs to see how fast they go. I'm also getting a little low on M193 going to about 1100 of it. So I'm a bit worried now. I have a lot of .22s so I might just start shooting those as oppose to the good stuff. |
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Posted: 1/4/2021 10:22:04 PM EST
My SPR loves it
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Posted: 1/5/2021 1:25:55 PM EST
How does this compare to Magtech 77 grain OTM? Looking to stock up on some flavor of the mk262 and I've been eyeing all three.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 1/5/2021 6:06:13 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Lancewood: How does this compare to Magtech 77 grain OTM? Looking to stock up on some flavor of the mk262 and I've been eyeing all three. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/5/2021 7:10:39 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Lancewood: How does this compare to Magtech 77 grain OTM? Looking to stock up on some flavor of the mk262 and I've been eyeing all three. Magtech was a little more accurate out of my barrels, IMI felt like it was loaded a little hotter. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 2:13:32 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Dirtymoe21: Magtech was a little more accurate out of my barrels, IMI felt like it was loaded a little hotter. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dirtymoe21: Originally Posted By Lancewood: How does this compare to Magtech 77 grain OTM? Looking to stock up on some flavor of the mk262 and I've been eyeing all three. Magtech was a little more accurate out of my barrels, IMI felt like it was loaded a little hotter. I had the same results and the chrono showed the original Razercore to be just a bit faster. Unfortunately the CBC/Magtech is no longer in production. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 4:49:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/7/2021 4:50:49 PM EST by bfoosh06]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dirtymoe21: Magtech was a little more accurate out of my barrels, IMI felt like it was loaded a little hotter. For the OP .... yes the IMI 77gr is GTG, and as others have said, I bet the price is shying people away. Spot on.... so same for me. And my Chrono tests showed IMI was around 2810 from my 20" barrel ( ? ) I will double check tonite.... and My various CBC lots, with the various powders were slightly slower. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 9:38:50 PM EST
70gr through 77gr
Brand and headstamp on brass................................................16 " Velocities ( FPS )........20" Velocities ( FPS ).........Comments......,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, NC means NATO CROSS SSA 5.56 70gr TSX..................................................................Av. 2508, ES 76....................Av. 2610, ES 11............... Hornady 73gr ELD .223 .................................................................................... ASYM 75gr .223...........................LC 14 NC..............................Av. 2605, ES 52.................Av. 2752, ES 40............"A+" Accuracy Black Hills 75gr .223 OTM .........F C 223 REM..........................Av. 2419 , ES 84.................Av. 2579 , ES 45.............. Creedmoor 75gr BTHP .223............................................................................. Hornady. 75gr Match....................HORNADY 223 REM...........Av. 2510 , ES 50................Av. 2640 , ES 60...........Interesting that this is faster both Nosler and Norma as well as more accurate Hornady Super. 223 Match 75....HORNADY 223 REM............Av. 2701 , ES 41................Av. 2790 , ES 54.......... Exact same headstamp as the standard 75gr match good accuracy Hornady Super. 5.56 75... ...........Hornady 5.56 NATO.............Av. 2785 , ES 31...............Av. 2840 , ES 42............Best accuracy in both rifles.... Hornady 75gr 5.56 "Black"................................................................................. Hornady 75gr 5.56 T2 Tap................................................................................. Hornady 75gr 5.56 SBR TAP............................................................................... Hornady 75gr 5.56 SBR TAP "Training"................................................................ Hornady 75gr "Steel Match" .223........................................................................... HPR .223 75gr.............................LC 13 NC..............................Av. 2414, ES 87.................Av. 2528, ES 112...........Slow but great accuracy HSM 75gr 5.56 ... .......................HSM 06 NATO 5.56..............Av. 2648 , ES 31.................Av. 2801 , ES 24.......... Excellent accuracy... out to 300 yards.( As far as got ) 75gr HSM 5.56 Tactical OTM ....LC 06 ( NATO Cross )............Av. 2795 , ES 49................Av. 2863 , ES 37............Excellent accuracy PPU 75gr .223.............................PPU 223 REM......................Av. 2461, ES 69...................Av. 2590, ES 109............Dismal accuracy... as a matter of fact 4MOA at 100yds. Speer 75gr .223 GD...................................................................................... SSA 5.56 77gr.............................5.56 SSA..............................Av. 2442, ES 25....................Av. 2567, ES 60............."B+" accuracy SSA 5.56 70gr TSX..................................................................Av. 2508, ES 76....................Av. 2610, ES 11............... SSA 5.56 77gr OTM Mk262 Clone...........................................Av. 2395, ES 74.....................Av. 2488, ES 33............. Tula 75gr .223.............................................................................................. Wolf Gold .223 75gr HP................................................................................. Atlanta Arms 77gr TMK , AMU..................................................................... Beck Ammo. 5.56 77gr SMK ...............................................Av. 2469, ES 34.....................Av. 2734, ES 8........... Black Hills 77gr 5.56 OTM .........LC 14 ( NATO Cross )............Av. 2592 , ES 21................Av. 2675 , ES 82..............Very accurate Black Hills 77gr 5.56 TMK .........WCC 14 ( NATO Cross )...........Av. 2636 , ES 54................Av. 2753 , ES 63..............Outstanding Accuracy. CBC 77gr 5.56.............................5.56 CBC 14..........................Av. 2577, ES 60..................Av. 2752, ES 75 CBC 77gr 5.56 PR 844 SMK ......5.56 CBC 12..........................Av. 2620 , ES 36.................Av. 2729 , ES 34...........These last two are labeled with different powders. CBC 77gr 5.56 WC732 SMK ......5.56 CBC 14..........................Av. 2640 , ES 52.................Av. 2712 , ES 50............ Creedmoor .223 77gr TMK............................................................................. Creedmoor .223 77gr OTM............................................................................. Corbon 77gr .223 MPR.................................................................................. Federal 77gr 5.56 "FC262"................................................................................. FGMM 77gr .223 SMK FGMM....F C 223 REM..........................Av. 2340 , ES 25................Av. 2411 , ES 33.............. Very good accuracy Fiocchi 77gr .223 SMK ..............G.F.L. 223 REM......................Av. 2390 , ES 96................Av. 2488 , ES 53............. about average accuracy for 77gr IMI 77gr 5.56 OTM..................IMI 13 variety of 2 digits.........Av. 2726 , ES 39..................Av. 2810 , ES 41........... Not the most accurate, but certainly a good value. Norma 77gr .223 TAC ...............norma 223 REM....................Av. 2430 , ES 75...................Av. 2550 , ES 68...........Average 77gr accuracy Nosler 77gr.223 CC...................NOSLER 223 REM................Av. 2440 , ES 28...................Av. 2569 , ES 36.......... I need more trigger time with this ammo PMC XTAC 77gr .223 SMK .......PMC 223 REM........................Av. 2350 , ES 62................Av. 2427 , ES 31............... Rem. 77gr .223 SMK .................R-P 223 REM..........................Av. 2468 , ES 73.................Av. 2563 , ES 39............. Sig Sauer 77gr SMK .223.................................................................................. Winc. 77gr 5.56.........................WCC 14 5.56MM....................Av 2566... ES 36..................Av 2676.... ES 20.............Decent speed, but there is faster. Winc. 77gr Match 5.56 _ _ _ .... WCC 14 5.56 MM...................Av. 2364 , ES 47................Av. 2468 , ES 54..............For a 5.56 round, this is very low velocity. |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 9:57:32 AM EST
It may still be in stock because they got more of it compared to the BH. I think the IMI is as good as the BH which has been unavailable for a while even before the chicom19. Some guns prefer CBC, while others prefer IMI, or BH.
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