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Posted: 2/5/2021 8:39:38 PM EDT
If I put a rifle upper on a pistol lower......can I shoulder the SB3 pistol brace legally ???
Link Posted: 2/5/2021 8:59:04 PM EDT
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You can shoulder it with any upper.
Link Posted: 2/5/2021 10:16:45 PM EDT
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FPNI
Link Posted: 2/6/2021 12:26:25 AM EDT
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Yes
Link Posted: 2/6/2021 9:55:41 AM EDT
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Thanks
Link Posted: 2/6/2021 10:01:55 AM EDT
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You can make a rifle from a pistol and go back to a pistol configuration, because as a pistol configuration, the gun was subject to the more stringent ownership requirement



Link Posted: 2/6/2021 12:27:18 PM EDT
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Not everywhere.  It takes no more to buy an AR pistol than a AR rifle here in MN, and most other states.  But, to buy an AR rifle we have to go through the same ordeals as a pistol, same as a stripped lower.  Some states less, some more.
Link Posted: 2/6/2021 1:55:23 PM EDT
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My idea is to be able to quickly switch between a pistol and rifle by just changing the upper.
Link Posted: 2/6/2021 3:07:32 PM EDT
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Not everywhere.  It takes no more to buy an AR pistol than a AR rifle here in MN, and most other states.  But, to buy an AR rifle we have to go through the same ordeals as a pistol, same as a stripped lower.  Some states less, some more.
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Link Posted: 2/6/2021 6:50:35 PM EDT
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Yes, that’s fine as long as you start out as a pistol. And as long as you don’t have any accessories on it that changes it to a rifle or SBR when you change it back to a pistol. Such as a stock instead of a brace or a vertical foregrip.
Link Posted: 2/7/2021 9:48:23 PM EDT
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That's not at all in any way, shape, manner or form the reason why a person can reconfigure pistol>rifle>pistol.
US vs Thompson Center is why.

And, there is not a "more stringent ownership requirement" in Federal law for pistols.
Federal law prohibits licensed dealers (I is one) from transferring any firearm to a person under the age of 21. It provides an exemption for rifles and shotguns to those buyers who are eighteen years old.
Link Posted: 2/12/2021 6:49:51 PM EDT
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I may be wrong, but if you start as a pistol with a braced lower, swapping a 16” upper shouldn’t change the legal classification of the firearm.
You can have a pistol with any length barrel. If it goes over 26” it may be an AOW but that doesn’t change it to a rifle.

But for the OP, shouldn’t matter, you can legally shoulder a braced pistol, period. Now if you go to a range that doesn’t allow braced AR pistols they probably won’t give a 16” build a second look.

I think the big question is whether your lower was registered as Other or Pistol. If it’s Other ( purchased as a stripped or complete lower) then build it in any legal configuration you want. It’s still Other. But if it was purchased as a complete pistol, will adding a 16” upper legally make it a rifle? I doubt it.

I guess what I’m trying to say is if you’re worried about the legality of using or operating a brace, going to a 16” barrel isn’t gonna change anything. Unless that lower was registered as a rifle and just happens to wear a brace. But then any pistol upper would make a rifle lower an SBR.

Link Posted: 2/12/2021 8:01:22 PM EDT
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....If it goes over 26” it may be an AOW...
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Nope. Nope. Nope.
"Braced" pistols with an OAL of 26" or more that have a second vertical grip would be just a "firearm".......because such a firearm does not meet the definition of pistol/rifle/shotgun/receiver/frame as a Title I gun.. If less than 26" it would be an AOW (Any Other Weapon) with that second grip....requiring an NFA tax stamp.  


I think the big question is whether your lower was registered as Other or Pistol. If it’s Other ( purchased as a stripped or complete lower) then build it in any legal configuration you want. It’s still Other. But if it was purchased as a complete pistol, will adding a 16” upper legally make it a rifle? I doubt it.

1. There is no "registered as" in Federal law or the majority of states.
2. An AR lower, a frame, receiver or firearm that expels a shotgun shell.........all transfer as an "Other firearm". There is no such animal as a "pistol lower" or "rifle lower"....just lower.
3. If the lower was first assembled into a rifle....its a rifle forever.
4. If the lower was first assembled as a pistol, it can subsequently be reassembled into a rifle and back to pistol as often as desired.


Link Posted: 2/13/2021 10:50:59 AM EDT
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I was quite interested in buying the blackpowder Thompson Center Contender rifle, then i asked and found out it transfers as a pistol.
Link Posted: 2/13/2021 12:03:30 PM EDT
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If it is blackpowder only, you don't even need to go through an FFL.  If it is  a switch-barrel frame, it can be used for pistol barrels so then yes
Link Posted: 2/13/2021 12:48:48 PM EDT
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If it is blackpowder only, you don't even need to go through an FFL....
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Not true.
"Blackpowder only" has nothing to do with anything.
Muzzleloaders using black powder are almost always exempt from GCA '68...some are not (Rem 700 and Traditions Nitrofire)

T/C Encore frame/receivers can also be used for centerfire or rimfire cartridges, so are not exempt from GCA '68.
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