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Posted: 6/24/2019 5:23:49 PM EDT
 Just as the title description;
I really dislike that white stuff. I'd like to get rid of it. Anyway of doing it without having to sand and or paint over it? LMT lower |
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Posted: 6/24/2019 5:26:01 PM EDT
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Brake cleaner? Paint remover?
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Posted: 6/24/2019 5:26:03 PM EDT
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Aluminum black. Might take 2-3 applications
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Posted: 6/24/2019 5:26:54 PM EDT
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Brake cleaner? Paint remover? 
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Posted: 6/24/2019 5:27:24 PM EDT
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MEK, Toulene, aircraft paint stripper and a tooth brush.
Done it many times, will not harm the ano. |
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Posted: 6/24/2019 5:28:30 PM EDT
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Its laser engraved boss man. If not color fill, I have no idea..... Eta: that's why I ordered mine without it. 
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Posted: 6/24/2019 5:28:47 PM EDT
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They didn’t come with that ‘white’. Somebody’s painted that in. Hopefully not epoxied but the depth would make that unlikely. I own several and a few I have acquired had been painted in. One was so nice I kept it that way.
Depending on the paint used, soaking in Methanol worked on a few that I cleaned up. |
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Posted: 6/24/2019 5:28:48 PM EDT
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I am no help, but if you are not gov/LE, and you legally own it, then I like the text for the irony.
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Posted: 6/24/2019 5:31:27 PM EDT
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Laser engraving.
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Posted: 6/24/2019 5:32:07 PM EDT
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It came that way from LMT?
 https://www.tombstonetactical.com/catalog/lmt/lmp149hl-defender-ar-15-stripped-lower-receiver-le-markings/ Even if it's laser engraved it must still have been painted? |
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Posted: 6/24/2019 5:34:15 PM EDT
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Google - Colt Restricted
Very interesting AR trivia at an interesting point in our ‘let’s ban guns’ history. And we all know it ends on a happy note for once 
EDIT - Apologies- my old eyes and old habit of jumping to conclusions. The Colts with that stamp are reasonably collectible. I’ve never seen an LMT with that. If it’s factory it seems it may be of value at least for a swap? EDIT AGAIN - I’ll shut up now. Just wish I had know this was a lower for sale and the engraving was optional to similar. Back to my cartoons, Carry on. |
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Posted: 6/24/2019 5:34:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even if it's laser engraved it must still have been painted? |
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Posted: 6/24/2019 5:35:39 PM EDT
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Aluminum black will dull it out but with it being engraved, it's still going to be there.
To completely remove it, you will need to sand the surfaces level and paint it, IMO. |
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Posted: 6/24/2019 5:41:34 PM EDT
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Ill tell you guys one thing, if LMT started color filling engravings with paint, they won't be getting a Christmas card from me this year.
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Posted: 6/24/2019 6:05:34 PM EDT
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I like it. Not sure if I like it for $150 but it would look nice alongside my Colts and be a ‘shooter’.
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Posted: 6/24/2019 6:09:15 PM EDT
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Xtra 50 bux for restricted markings.
No FO. |
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Posted: 6/24/2019 6:11:08 PM EDT
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Xtra 50 bux for restricted markings. No FO. |
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Posted: 6/24/2019 6:21:11 PM EDT
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It’s kinda like an entry level collector thing for average Joes.
Love guns, want an heirloom but don’t have allot of extra money. Would love to collect Colt revolvers but these are impossible to find a deal on. Some folks don’t want the marking so the sell their otherwise identical model for cheap. |
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Posted: 6/24/2019 6:21:17 PM EDT
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I've found that with the laser engraved ones that end up bright white, it's been laser burned through the ano. First, I clean with BraKleen, then I lightly fog it with VHT flat black hi-temp header paint (the one that's known for not being particularly "durable" on street-driven headers in-real-life), and that particular flat black paint seems to embed itself well in the laser engraving. I've tried other flat black paints and not so successful. the VHT paint that is on the surrounding black ano surface rubs off pretty easily, leaving just the paint embedded in the laser etched surface. it seems to embed well. might take a couple of light fogging coats to make the white go flat black. it varies.
done this on some Troy stuff, POF, SwitchView throw levers, even the Geissele black scope mounts. didn't really like my AR being an advertising billboard for all these vendors. My gun ain't the frickin' SHOT Show. ETA: based on other's inputs, this thread, i'm gonna have to try the aluminum black - the pen, next time. |
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Posted: 6/24/2019 6:24:32 PM EDT
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Gun Blue?
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Posted: 6/24/2019 6:24:57 PM EDT
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Just hit it with aluminum blackener.
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Posted: 6/24/2019 6:29:56 PM EDT
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Some guys pay more for those post ban LEO restricted guns. I guess I can see the irony. |
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Posted: 6/24/2019 9:08:44 PM EDT
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It came that way from LMT? https://www.tombstonetactical.com/images/lmt/LMP149HL-1.jpg https://www.tombstonetactical.com/catalog/lmt/lmp149hl-defender-ar-15-stripped-lower-receiver-le-markings/ Even if it's laser engraved it must still have been painted? Bought at gun store, new - so no tampering with it either. I was able to make it less notable by a form factor of times 100; I applied a bit of all techniques here, was able to strip the white but the aluminum showed up - right under every character of the text. That means that the white got stripped, but the anodizing underneath went away with it. After I could see the aluminum in each character, I went with a degreaser first, then I went with aluminum black - the pen. Worked reasonably well Need to thank you all for this; I just hate with all myself any white lettering, text and stuff - I don't even like most of roll marks unless it's Colt. I guess I have become a Colt snob? LMT I love, but don't want to see stuff around - just plain Jane works for me. Thanks all! |
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Posted: 6/24/2019 9:17:52 PM EDT
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I was able to make it less notable by a form factor of times 100; I applied a bit of all techniques here, was able to strip the white but the aluminum showed up - right under every character of the text. That means that the white got stripped, but the anodizing underneath went away with it. After I could see the aluminum in each character, I went with a degreaser first, then I went with aluminum black - the pen. |
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Posted: 6/24/2019 9:33:04 PM EDT
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I did this to an FN lower
Brake cleaner, soft bristle brush, hoppes 9, repeat no issues it's painted in guys, laser engraving does NOT add color......a little common sense people, PLEASE |
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Posted: 6/24/2019 9:37:55 PM EDT
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Yep - came like that from factory. Bought at gun store, new - so no tampering with it either. I was able to make it less notable by a form factor of times 100; I applied a bit of all techniques here, was able to strip the white but the aluminum showed up - right under every character of the text. That means that the white got stripped, but the anodizing underneath went away with it. |
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Posted: 6/24/2019 10:10:29 PM EDT
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Its laser etched.
My LMT lower had it and aluma black wouldn't touch it. I ended up sanding it to fresh raw aluminum and aluma black took, but you can see a difference. For science |
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Posted: 6/24/2019 10:13:58 PM EDT
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Thanks again all; posting a picture shortly
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Posted: 6/25/2019 12:31:21 AM EDT
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 In picture it actually seems still more white and brighter than it actually is in reality
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Posted: 6/25/2019 12:42:19 AM EDT
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Nice, which method or combination of methods did you end up going with?
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Posted: 6/25/2019 1:11:52 AM EDT
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Nice, which method or combination of methods did you end up going with? I started by applying that and, after leaving it there for 10 mins as suggested by instructions, I rubbed it gently with steel wool. I then added oil to the wool and continued scrubbing gently for a good while. At some point I noticed that simple aluminum was the only left thing in the letters - inside of them - so I applied a degreaser to make sure the paint remover and the oil would be gone for the black aluminum pen to work; after cleaning carefully, I started applying the black aluminum. It started working right away and I could see the lettering finally going in the background - I think I could re apply several times for even a better final result. As said before, really a mix of techniques as suggested along the whole thread. It could certainly have been done even better - I have seen hints here of slightly alternative ways - but this is what I got so far. |
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Posted: 6/25/2019 7:58:51 AM EDT
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Google - Colt Restricted Very interesting AR trivia at an interesting point in our ‘let’s ban guns’ history. And we all know it ends on a happy note for once
EDIT - Apologies- my old eyes and old habit of jumping to conclusions. The Colts with that stamp are reasonably collectible. I’ve never seen an LMT with that. If it’s factory it seems it may be of value at least for a swap? EDIT AGAIN - I’ll shut up now. Just wish I had know this was a lower for sale and the engraving was optional to similar. Back to my cartoons, Carry on. |
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Posted: 6/25/2019 11:34:52 AM EDT
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I never throw away an old toothbrush. They are the handiest thing you can have in your gun box for jobs like this.
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Posted: 6/25/2019 3:15:05 PM EDT
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Colt-LMT M4 by SoloDallas, on Flickr Final potato picture of what she looks like; Colt upper, LMT lower |
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Posted: 6/25/2019 3:25:24 PM EDT
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14.7?
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Posted: 6/25/2019 3:29:10 PM EDT
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14.7? if you look carefully, the pinned device is integrated seamlessly with the barrel - it starts after the 203 cut. Very unique. The entire upper is a Colt-SAW optimized upper (SAW used to be and still is a sort of Colt's custom shop). Because of CA, I Wanted to have a shorter, 14.5 (looking) upper that was completely legal. I purchased two of these when pinning wasn't as common as it is now and these have a different look anyways |
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Posted: 6/25/2019 9:39:42 PM EDT
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Late to the game...but the smudge would bother me more that the lettering...not that it did
Sell it and buy what you want That upper should be on a Colt lower anway..JMO |
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Posted: 6/25/2019 10:06:48 PM EDT
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Late to the game...but the smudge would bother me more that the lettering...not that it did Sell it and buy what you want That upper should be on a Colt lower anway..JMO That upper can be on a Colt lower; but currently the lower was on this other Colt upper and my other Colt lower is with its matched upper Love the older looking stuff (pictures of my two Colt lowers) 
6520 Colt by SoloDallas, on Flickr 
Colt M4A1 by SoloDallas, on Flickr |
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Posted: 6/25/2019 10:10:50 PM EDT
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I hear you; and there is a smudge now. Could still be re-anodized, so I'm good. That upper can be on a Colt lower; but currently the lower was on this other Colt upper and my other Colt lower is with its matched upper Love the older looking stuff (pictures of my two Colt lowers) https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48106190942_55925d3d02_h.jpg 6520 Colt by SoloDallas, on Flickr https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48105800567_643455a497_h.jpg Colt M4A1 by SoloDallas, on Flickr Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Late to the game...but the smudge would bother me more that the lettering...not that it did Sell it and buy what you want That upper should be on a Colt lower anway..JMO That upper can be on a Colt lower; but currently the lower was on this other Colt upper and my other Colt lower is with its matched upper Love the older looking stuff (pictures of my two Colt lowers) https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48106190942_55925d3d02_h.jpg 6520 Colt by SoloDallas, on Flickr https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48105800567_643455a497_h.jpg Colt M4A1 by SoloDallas, on Flickr Should have been 0000 at most. Soft toothbrush would have been sufficient. |
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Posted: 6/25/2019 10:13:11 PM EDT
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looked a lot better before, time to do the ole krylon camo job...
this reminds me of neighbors and homes changing hands, one guy buys the house, tears up all the rock landscaping to replace with grass, next guy buys it and tears out all the grass and replaces with rock and so it goes... |
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Posted: 6/25/2019 10:19:07 PM EDT
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They didn’t come with that ‘white’. Somebody’s painted that in. Hopefully not epoxied but the depth would make that unlikely. I own several and a few I have acquired had been painted in. One was so nice I kept it that way. Depending on the paint used, soaking in Methanol worked on a few that I cleaned up.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 6/25/2019 10:21:48 PM EDT
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They did come that way. I have an older LMT lower that looks just like that. These have been laser engraved. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/LMT1_JPG-993699.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/LMT3_JPG-993701.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They didn’t come with that ‘white’. Somebody’s painted that in. Hopefully not epoxied but the depth would make that unlikely. I own several and a few I have acquired had been painted in. One was so nice I kept it that way. Depending on the paint used, soaking in Methanol worked on a few that I cleaned up. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/LMT1_JPG-993699.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/LMT3_JPG-993701.JPG 
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Posted: 6/25/2019 10:22:00 PM EDT
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Just hit it with aluminum blackener. |
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Posted: 6/25/2019 11:06:53 PM EDT
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looked a lot better before, time to do the ole krylon camo job... this reminds me of neighbors and homes changing hands, one guy buys the house, tears up all the rock landscaping to replace with grass, next guy buys it and tears out all the grass and replaces with rock and so it goes... I am really a simple, older guy - I don't mind seeing signs of test of time, use - even abuse - but just that white text on the receiver it ain't fo' me! |
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Posted: 6/25/2019 11:08:33 PM EDT
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What grit steel wool did you use? Should have been 0000 at most. Soft toothbrush would have been sufficient. Indeed the brush may have been sufficient; lesson learned for the future! Now onto fucking up something else, let's see....
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Posted: 6/25/2019 11:11:29 PM EDT
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Yes, it was just that - 0000, the lightest one available; I know for sure because I have a bag of it. Indeed the brush may have been sufficient; lesson learned for the future! Now onto fucking up something else, let's see.... |
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Posted: 6/25/2019 11:21:45 PM EDT
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Surprised. I've used 0000 and gun oil on everything from high polish blued Winchesters to pistols to ARs, never left a mark. OR it may even have been the specific paint removing composite I used (a sort of gel) that, being rubbed with that wool, has thinned the anodizing - not sure, as while I was rubbing I wasn't in bright light and could only see if the white of the lettering was still there or not; so I kept on rubbing the wool in. Doesn't matter to me - really though - as long as with the corner of my eye I don't see that stinking white lettering I have hated for years! |
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Posted: 6/26/2019 8:15:39 AM EDT
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Think this is what he was thinking.... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/416992/thumb-993704.jpg  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/26/2019 9:33:21 AM EDT
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He may very well be. I have a LE6920 with those markings. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/Colt_LE6920g_JPG-993964.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Think this is what he was thinking.... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/416992/thumb-993704.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/Colt_LE6920g_JPG-993964.JPG |
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Posted: 6/26/2019 1:42:31 PM EDT
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They didn’t come with that ‘white’. Somebody’s painted that in. Hopefully not epoxied but the depth would make that unlikely. I own several and a few I have acquired had been painted in. One was so nice I kept it that way. Depending on the paint used, soaking in Methanol worked on a few that I cleaned up. |
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Posted: 6/26/2019 2:52:08 PM EDT
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That's a fact, Jack! Colt did not fill in that roll mark with white. Use 'Goof-Off', 'Oops' or 'Goo-Gone'. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They didn’t come with that ‘white’. Somebody’s painted that in. Hopefully not epoxied but the depth would make that unlikely. I own several and a few I have acquired had been painted in. One was so nice I kept it that way. Depending on the paint used, soaking in Methanol worked on a few that I cleaned up. |
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