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Posted: 2/20/2021 4:35:41 PM EDT
Some of you might remember my old thread about this old 1979 S&B 308 I bought. I bought two cases from a gun dealer.
Well I get hang fires and no fires with every round. Garbage shit Ammo. The dealer was nice enough to mail me these four other types of ammo to try out and report back to him. He said he would trade me out. What ammo should I trade out with? Any info on this ammo?
Seems the DAG (German?) and the R1M1 (South African?) shoot the best. The CBC seemed to have a few flyers that didn’t even hit the cardboard. so I don’t know what’s the deal with that. My target was at 50 yards. Bolt action ruger American.

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Link Posted: 2/20/2021 5:38:07 PM EDT
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Can't go wrong with the R1M1. The FLB (Argentinian) looks like it grouped OK as well, but I really have not heard much good or bad about it. Not a lot has made it to market to the best of my knowledge.
Link Posted: 2/20/2021 9:13:47 PM EDT
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Bought a bunch of the R1M1 over 15 years ago and it's all been good to go.
Link Posted: 2/20/2021 9:25:30 PM EDT
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Dag and the SA are the best. SA is copper jacketed lead core and brass case so it can be used at any range. DAG is steel jacketed [covered over] so it may be disallowed at many ranges.
Link Posted: 2/20/2021 9:31:14 PM EDT
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I’m leaning to the South African too. Anyone know if it’s corrosive?
Link Posted: 2/20/2021 9:58:42 PM EDT
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Dag and the SA are the best. SA is copper jacketed lead core and brass case so it can be used at any range. DAG is steel jacketed [covered over] so it may be disallowed at many ranges.

I’m leaning to the South African too. Anyone know if it’s corrosive?


No it's not.

I've shot probably close to 15 K of it over the years.
Link Posted: 2/21/2021 3:40:52 PM EDT
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No it's not.

I've shot probably close to 15 K of it over the years.
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Dag and the SA are the best. SA is copper jacketed lead core and brass case so it can be used at any range. DAG is steel jacketed [covered over] so it may be disallowed at many ranges.

I’m leaning to the South African too. Anyone know if it’s corrosive?


No it's not.

I've shot probably close to 15 K of it over the years.

Even better
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 12:03:11 AM EDT
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Which dealer and how much per round?
Link Posted: 2/24/2021 11:43:02 PM EDT
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So many different flavors of 7.62x51 NATO ball ammo that are close to being considered "match" where the consistency is way better than average.
Don't forget every barrel performs differently. What shot 1-2 moa in one rifle might result in 3-4 moa in another.
Here's what I've found over the years that were worth remembering.
Lithuanian (Headstamped GGG) 2003-4 (before they could put the NATO symbol on their cases)
Portuguese (Headstamp FNM) some years better than others
Austrian Hirtenberger (Headstamped HP) some years better than others
British Radway Green (Headstamped RG) some years better than others
DAG (German) Good ammo
MEN German) Good ammo
ADI (Australian) Good ammo
South African
Malaysian
Spain (Santa Barbara)
There are so many more.
Personally, 2004 Lithuanian shot the best groups for me out of a LRB M14 with 18.5" Criterion bbl. Nothing special about the rifle besides I love shooting it.
There's some great surplus ammo threads over at M14.com Here's one of the administrators experiences over the years XXIV CORPS personal experiences
None listed are corrosive. Good luck!

Link Posted: 2/25/2021 12:35:53 AM EDT
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That top box is corrosive ammo
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 11:40:26 AM EDT
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This. I bought some when it first hit the market and rusted up a gun.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 7:33:46 PM EDT
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Yup - I think SAMCO was marketing the S&B ammo as corresive
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Well it’s shit. I bought 2500 rounds of it. Only tried to shoot 80 rounds of it so far. 14 of those rounds wouldn’t fire at all. Most that did had a .5-1 second hangfire
Link Posted: 3/11/2021 2:41:36 PM EDT
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Well the guy only had 120 rounds of the R1M1 left. So he gave me 1500 of the German dag.
So we will just call it good. Head stamp says 68

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Link Posted: 3/12/2021 7:44:53 PM EDT
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I’m gonna be the first to say this
With that big ass scope and sand bags or a bipod at 50 out of a bolt gun they should all be under 1”
Lower the magnification to like 4x and shoot it
The DAG is the shit in surplus it’s German
Shot MOA out of my SCAR and Colt 901 AR-10
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