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Posted: 7/17/2018 8:33:56 AM EDT
I wonder if threads like this are okay...
I have the following upper: 10.5" barrel with FSB (carbine length gas, of course) Smith Enterprises Vortex G6A3 Magpul AFG 2 Daniel Defense Lite Rail 9.5 FSP Daniel Defense fixed rear anchor harvey forged upper mil-spec BCG and CH I can't decide what optic will go well, aesthetically speaking, with this setup. I'm thinking about running a lower 1/3rd co-witness, Scalarworks mount with either an MRO or an RMR. I've also thought about running an Aimpoint micro (T1,2 or H1,2), again with the Scalarworks lower 1/3rd mount. Finally, I am entertaining the idea of running an EXPS2-0. Any suggestions? If any of y'all have pics to share, too, that would be amazing. The key items for pics would be: the DD fixed rear, DD lite rail 9.5 fsp (or DD M4 9.5 fsp), and the fsb. Thanks in advance, bakuon |
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OP, I have the DD 1.5 fixed rear and a standard FSB on a 10.5 pistol. Optic in a Vortex Sparc II. No complaints. Cowitnesses nicely and can be run lower 1/3 too. Small and light is the way to go for a short build, I also considered an RMR but feel it is on the small side and have had good experiences with Vortex red dots in the past. The Sparc is a good size, I would consider anything from a reputable manufacturer in the same size range before an RMR, YMMV.
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I like the sig romeo 5 and also as stated above the sparc by vortex works well
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Not trying to come off as a dick, but pure aesthetics don't and shouldn't mean sh*t when choosing an optic unless you are building a parts correct clone of something IMO (I.E., MK12 Mod 0 or 1, MK18 Mod 0 or 1, etc.), whats the rifle's intended use and whats your budget?
That being said, I vote Aimpoint Micro if you want the most robust optic, followed by an MRO. Eotechs are cool but the batteries don't last nearly as long. RMR is doable but has a really small window if you will be shooting in awkward positions and its annoying as hell when water or crap gets on the inside lens. |
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I wanted a damn near bomb proof setup on my sbr and went with the dd fixed front and rear with with an aimpoint T1 in larue 1/3 mount. Works great, just look slightly over your rear sight to use red dot and just shift your eye slightly and the irons are there.
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OP, I have the DD 1.5 fixed rear and a standard FSB on a 10.5 pistol. Optic in a Vortex Sparc II. No complaints. Cowitnesses nicely and can be run lower 1/3 too. Small and light is the way to go for a short build, I also considered an RMR but feel it is on the small side and have had good experiences with Vortex red dots in the past. The Sparc is a good size, I would consider anything from a reputable manufacturer in the same size range before an RMR, YMMV. View Quote Quoted:
I like the sig romeo 5 and also as stated above the sparc by vortex works well View Quote Quoted:
Not trying to come off as a dick, but pure aesthetics don't and shouldn't mean sh*t when choosing an optic unless you are building a parts correct clone of something IMO (I.E., MK12 Mod 0 or 1, MK18 Mod 0 or 1, etc.), whats the rifle's intended use and whats your budget? That being said, I vote Aimpoint Micro if you want the most robust optic, followed by an MRO. Eotechs are cool but the batteries don't last nearly as long. RMR is doable but has a really small window if you will be shooting in awkward positions and its annoying as hell when water or crap gets on the inside lens. View Quote Quoted:
Have you considered a Leupold Deltapoint Pro? I'm running one as the primary optic on my HD carbine. It is duty grade. It weighs 1.9 ounces alone and probably just under 5 ounces with riser and cross-slot mount. It has a larger screen/window/viewing area than Aimpoint Micro. It is motion-activated, so it is left on 24/7 and has Aimpoint like battery life. Everyone here will have their own personal favorite red dot, depending on their own experience. I'm not claiming that this or any other red dot is the "best" for everyone. I am saying it is an excellent, often overlooked duty grade alternative. I'm very happy with mine. I wanted QD capability and absolute co-witness, so it is on ADM's AD-TR mount with Leupold's riser. There are other mounting options for lower 1/3. View Quote here are the two optics i've tried out so far: compM4 sparc ii EDIT: cannot post images, so here's a link to an imgur album instead upper with optic options I have a Scalarworks LEAP/RMR lower 1/3rd mount coming in sometime this week, so I'll add that to the imgur album when I've had a chance to mount it. |
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I wanted a damn near bomb proof setup on my sbr and went with the dd fixed front and rear with with an aimpoint T1 in larue 1/3 mount. Works great, just look slightly over your rear sight to use red dot and just shift your eye slightly and the irons are there. View Quote |
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Why not just go with a T1/2 if you can afford it?
Aesthetics are purely individual and subjective, and are not what you should be using as the sole criteria for selecting an optic. |
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I can’t believe i actually have to explicitly state this, but it’s not the sole criteria. Believe it or not, i thought about the other aspects of optics before posting this thread. I guess the particular optics that i mentioned that i’d considered gave zero indication of that, huh? This forum needs a “mind-blown” emoticon.
I am considering a micro, but not a t1,2; instead, an h1 on a DD lower 1/3rd mount (like maybe the one on the EE right now). |
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I wonder if threads like this are okay...I have the following upper: 10.5" barrel with FSB (carbine length gas, of course) Smith Enterprises Vortex G6A3 Magpul AFG 2 Daniel Defense Lite Rail 9.5 FSP Daniel Defense fixed rear anchor harvey forged upper mil-spec BCG and CH I can't decide what optic will go well, aesthetically speaking, with this setup. I'm thinking about running a lower 1/3rd co-witness, Scalarworks mount with either an MRO or an RMR.I've also thought about running an Aimpoint micro (T1,2 or H1,2), again with the Scalarworks lower 1/3rd mount.Finally, I am entertaining the idea of running an EXPS2-0.Any suggestions? If any of y'all have pics to share, too, that would be amazing. The key items for pics would be: the DD fixed rear, DD lite rail 9.5 fsp (or DD M4 9.5 fsp), and the fsb. Thanks in advance, bakuon View Quote I wouldn't consider an Eotech. They don't have nearly the battery life and they have a shady past, they are also quite large compared to the micro series. If you're considering a holographic sight I'd go with the UH1, however you may not like the looks of it |
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You stated in your OP that you were considering the T1/2 and you were looking for what optic would be most "aesthetically" pleasing. Those are some of the best red dots available at this time. I wouldn't consider an Eotech. They don't have nearly the battery life and they have a shady past, they are also quite large compared to the micro series. If you're considering a holographic sight I'd go with the UH1, however you may not like the looks of it View Quote Regarding EOTech's past though, didn't they fix the issue? I read/heard that they were aware of the issue and tried to hide it, but that's in the past, and the issues are fixed now, right? Anyway, besides that, I'm aware of the battery life being way less than Aimpoint's, and all that jazz. I did think about the huey, but that thing just seems too big for this upper. lol I think it looks really cool though, to be honest. What do you think about a compm5? "Worst" case scenario, I just go with the sparc ii or the compm4. Tomorrow sees the arrival of my scalarworks LEAP mount for the RMR though, so we'll see how that goes. |
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I wanted a damn near bomb proof setup on my sbr and went with the dd fixed front and rear with with an aimpoint T1 in larue 1/3 mount. Works great, just look slightly over your rear sight to use red dot and just shift your eye slightly and the irons are there. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/239906/20180717_005119-611499.JPG View Quote |
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Quoted: Do you like how the sparc ii looks between the DD 1.5 rear and the fsb? What handguard are you running? Any firsthand experience with the RMR on the 10.5 pistol? I have no personal experience with sig rds. I have mounted my sparc ii a few times, but I'm just not sure that i like how it looks. I know that it's a good dot. This thread is literally about aesthetics with a very specific setup. Whether or not aesthetics is important to anyone other than yourself is entirely NOT for you to decide; this is not a matter of what should or shouldn't be, either. And anyway, even though my selection criteria wasn't robustness, I will still say, you are preaching to the choir about robustness. If you'd like to participate with the "helping," lemme know which of those three you think looks cool with that setup I laid out in the original post or suggest something else. I have not considered a Leupold Deltapoint Pro. I have an RMR and don't see myself picking up a Deltapoint Pro anytime soon. Appreciate the pic, though I wish it included a DD fixed rear. here are the two optics i've tried out so far: compM4 sparc ii EDIT: cannot post images, so here's a link to an imgur album instead upper with optic options I have a Scalarworks LEAP/RMR lower 1/3rd mount coming in sometime this week, so I'll add that to the imgur album when I've had a chance to mount it. View Quote |
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RMR / Scalarworks / DD BUIS. Attached File
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I know the above pix don’t exactly hit on all your requirements. But they should at least give you a good indication as to how the two optics/mounts match up—aesthetically speaking—with the DD irons.
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Thanks for the replies! I’ll post some pics of how the upper with the DD lite rail 9.5 fsp ended up, and where the LEAP/rmr combo ended up!
EDIT: Letters, those pics were really helpful, thanks! |
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I'm using a T2 in a Scalarworks mount. Looks good AND is bombproof. I also think those little TA44 ACOGs mounted just above the election port looks just amazing. So much so that I have been really contemplating trading my T2 for one. That setup also looks amazing, and of course it's bombproof.
I understand picking just for looks. I'm no door kicker and as long as it's a quality optic my soda cans and watermelons won't know the difference. |
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Aimpoint T2, Comp M5, or PRO in a lower 1/3 mount.
Absolute cowitness is too low and fixed irons plus an optic at the same centerline is a mess. |
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lol, I think they're the best looking micro red dot. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJofpF2XUAAd620.jpg I think this looks cool as shit. It looks like a mini acog, especially the patrol model. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: That's the first I've heard of anyone touting the MRO for their aesthetics. I think they are the ugliest sight available. But yes, they would work on an sbr https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJofpF2XUAAd620.jpg I think this looks cool as shit. It looks like a mini acog, especially the patrol model. Nice SBR by the way |
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Yes, the MRO is ugly. Mine works well (SN# 100+), so I'll be keeping it around for awhile. Nice SBR by the way View Quote If you're going for looks, Eotechs (and any other holo sight out there) look fucking ugly on short guns. If you're doing first person video or something like that, they look cool though. |
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Damn you tryin' rub that SBR in my Cali wound? If you're going for looks, Eotechs (and any other holo sight out there) look fucking ugly on short guns. If you're doing first person video or something like that, they look cool though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yes, the MRO is ugly. Mine works well (SN# 100+), so I'll be keeping it around for awhile. Nice SBR by the way If you're going for looks, Eotechs (and any other holo sight out there) look fucking ugly on short guns. If you're doing first person video or something like that, they look cool though. Attached File |
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I forgot about those crazy California laws; how about this then? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/101434/97BE3FCD-1A2B-48DA-B75F-6EEF1AEAF17B-632498.JPG View Quote It's not that crazy, at least I can still have an MRO on it. |
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/455144/97BE3FCD-1A2B-48DA-B75F-6EEF1AEAF17B-632498-632544.JPG It's not that crazy, at least I can still have an MRO on it. View Quote |
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Damn you tryin' rub that SBR in my Cali wound? If you're going for looks, Eotechs (and any other holo sight out there) look fucking ugly on short guns. If you're doing first person video or something like that, they look cool though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yes, the MRO is ugly. Mine works well (SN# 100+), so I'll be keeping it around for awhile. Nice SBR by the way If you're going for looks, Eotechs (and any other holo sight out there) look fucking ugly on short guns. If you're doing first person video or something like that, they look cool though. I'd take an MRO 1000x over an EOT btw |
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promised y'all pics. of uppers. sorry for potato quality and shitty editing.
For the DD upper, i ended up getting an H1 that came with a DD lower 1/3rd mount. The LEAP/RMR went onto an 11.5” upper that has an Odin Works rail. 10.3" 10.5" 11.5" 14.5" and 16" |
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