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Posted: 5/8/2020 11:42:49 AM EDT
This is not to start a rant or anything but with Walmart no longer selling inexpensive ammo and with potential shortages coming we may all have to shoot what we can get.
Up to now I've been using Federal 55 grain .223 exclusively in my PSA 10.5" AR pistols and it's been 100% reliable except for one pistol that had a wonky upper. Even it is 100% now. But I'm running low on that ammo and I suspect availability may be hit and miss when I go to reorder. Are you getting 100% reliability no matter what ammo you use? What brands of ammo are you using? Are any brands or types particularly finicky in a PSA 10.5"? |
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10.5" PSA? I didn't run it that much. It worked, but that particular barrel is now sitting in a box. I have another complete 10.5" PSA upper that has never been fired.
PSA 16" ate all kinds of stuff with no issues, but it was always brass, no steel. That barrel is about to be swapped out...most likely for a Faxon. (Nothing wrong with the barrel, just upgrading weapons as I slim down footprint). |
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I mostly use PMC .223 FMJ. Has the same POI as 55 gr. Gold Dot at 100 yds. I've shot a few magazines each of Wolf Gold, steel case Wolf, Federal American Eagle .223 and 5.56. No failures.
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Mine is a 10.5'' Nitride. Yes, it shoots anything I stick in it, never a failure. I've only shot it a few hundred times though.
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I've had one round that wouldn't feed multiple times (same round). All it's had is Wolf & Tula steel.
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I've never feed mine steel; but it's eaten everything else.
I gave up on steel long ago. |
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Quoted: This is not to start a rant or anything but with Walmart no longer selling inexpensive ammo and with potential shortages coming we may all have to shoot what we can get. Up to now I've been using Federal 55 grain .223 exclusively in my PSA 10.5" AR pistols and it's been 100% reliable except for one pistol that had a wonky upper. Even it is 100% now. But I'm running low on that ammo and I suspect availability may be hit and miss when I go to reorder. Are you getting 100% reliability no matter what ammo you use? What brands of ammo are you using? Are any brands or types particularly finicky in a PSA 10.5"? View Quote Mine has been 100% reliable outside of a brass catcher creating some issues. However, it isn't the most accurate AR I have. In fact, it's probably the least accurate. |
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10.5 CHF(SBR) and Nitride(pistol) have ran everything I tried. M193, 855, SS109, wolf gold, wolf steel FMJ and SP(Wolf was mostly the nitride barrel) a little Tula, about 1k(all thru the Nitride) and several other brands of so called "M193" spec ammo. No malfunctions that I can recall over the years thru many, MANY K of ammo.
I use damage industries enhanced buffer springs and H2 buffers in both. SBR has a PSA enhanced NIb BCG, Nitride is a PSA premium nitride BCG. I do replace extractor springs with either Colt or BCM brand springs every 2-3K or when ever I feel like it... extractor springs are cheap and shorties can be hard on them.... |
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Mine recently started to malfunction nearly every round. Various brands/weights of ammo.
BCG appears to be outrunning the magazine's ability to present the rounds to the feed lips, resulting in a mangled cartridge. The pistol worked fine at first, until it didn't. Same thing happened to my MSAR 556. After initial break-in, many malfunctions. |
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I've run MANY thousands of rounds of steel cased ammo through all of my ARs. No problems that were ammo related. The only ARs I've seen that had problems with steel cased ammo were very over gassed.
You can get 62gr non magnetic jacketed Tula for about .25 a round right now. |
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Originally Posted By GySgt_D: Mine recently started to malfunction nearly every round. Various brands/weights of ammo. BCG appears to be outrunning the magazine's ability to present the rounds to the feed lips, resulting in a mangled cartridge. The pistol worked fine at first, until it didn't. Same thing happened to my MSAR 556. After initial break-in, many malfunctions. View Quote What may appear to be the bolt outrunning the mag could be your gas rings failing. |
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I mix a box of wolf steel, silver bear, 193, 855 and critical defense.
mine has 500 rounds of this through it so far. I totally trust it. |
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Steel & aluminum case ammo is pretty much only test fired in anything to see if it feeds. At my local indoor pistol range, I will shoot aluminum since I can't pick up the brass there. 80% of what I shoot is stuff I reload anyway. I haven't had much problem finding lower cost ammo online, but I haven't really been shopping much for factory ammo for the last couple months, been doing a lot of reloading. I have 1 10.5" upper & another on the way. I ordered them after shooting one a friend had & worked great & was quite accurate. Hopefully I won't get arrested for trying to go out to the gun range come summertime & I can give more details on 2 10.5" PSA builds with lots of different ammo. I'm not shooting more than 1 mag of steel & aluminum in each though.
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I've had well over 10 PSA guns including a handful 11.5 or less. I can't ever recall having a finicky barrel.
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I have a phosphate and a nitride 10.5 and they both work great with all ammo I’ve tried (never used steel case)
I replaced both the stock buffers. H1 and the other an H2. Both with NiB BCGs. Love them. |
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Mine has a suppressor on it so it better run with all that back pressure
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My 10.5 PSA has done perfect suppressed and non suppressed on any ammo after going to an h2 buffer. Was having an intermittent issue with bolt hold open on certain mags prior to that.
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Originally Posted By TonyAngel: What may appear to be the bolt outrunning the mag could be your gas rings failing. View Quote Probably no more than 150 total rounds through it, and they look fine. I fixed the problem by doing some "gunsmithing" with a Dremel tool; fueled by Miller High Life. Works great again. |
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No.
I have two. The first one I built before they began selling the kits. It's been 100% with everything. The second was built from their $259 shipped kits. It chokes on Tula. I turned that one into a 22lr. |
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I don't have exact experience with what you're asking about, but I am left-handed, I had a PSA Dissiaptor, and now have a DD Mk18 which has a 10.3" barrel. I primarily shot Wolf and Tula through my Dissiaptor and never had a problem with reliability. I have only put about 400 rds thru my Mk18 but it was Tula and I didn't have any problems. As far as gas in the face, that's not an issue with either gun.
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Big Junk 1:
What buffer and spring are you using with your PSA 10.5? |
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I have a PSA 10.5 Phosphate , with a BCM BCG and H buffer, and it has been totally reliable, even with 62gr reloads (reliable accuracy as well). Admittedly only brass cased, but as i dont have any steel or Al anyway, dont care about how it does with those..
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My 10.5 phosphate came with a very generous gas port. It has fed everything I've run through it. I wouldn't stress over it OP.
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I have 2 10.5 PSA uppers. I shoot the cheapest garbage I can find and both have been flawless so far.
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Older CHF 10.5 that's been run as a pistol and as an SBR and no issues other than being a little gassy. I've run a mix of stuff through it, most of it brass but a couple boxes of Tula; most of that suppressored. BCM Gunfighter charging handle to help with the gas but I still have to wear shooting glasses. H buffer and a premium BCG, usually USGI 20 or 30 rnd mags but occasionally Magpuls.
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I’ve still got 1 CHF upper.
Had 1 other CHF and 2 or 3 nitride. Fed a steady diet of Wolf to all of them in addition to a variety of flavors of M193. No issues at all. Attached File Attached File |
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I run tula and 193 through mine and it's been flawless. The nitride barrel seemed to need 100 rounds before the accuracy settled in. Recently added a tubbs flatwire spring to the 4.7 oz buffer for a 6.5 grendel upper I'm planning on using on it suppressed. The spring and buffer seems to have smoothed out the cylcing of the 556 upper considerably.
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Originally Posted By GySgt_D: Mine recently started to malfunction nearly every round. Various brands/weights of ammo. BCG appears to be outrunning the magazine's ability to present the rounds to the feed lips, resulting in a mangled cartridge. The pistol worked fine at first, until it didn't. Same thing happened to my MSAR 556. After initial break-in, many malfunctions. View Quote What buffer weight and recoil spring ?... and what mags ? If you don't mind.. could everything have smoothed up / broken in enough to make for a slightly higher cyclic speed ? For that matter.. what buffer weight and recoil spring is everyone running , with their PSA 10.5" uppers. |
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PSA 10.5 " nitride and PSA 10.5" phosphated. Both stock PSA pistol kits with SBA3 on Anderson lower. Both have run without issue, Wolf (steel & brass), Steel Case Barnaul, Tula, PMC bronze, federal black pack, Brown Bear - all good
Jeff |
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3 different 10.5" PSA barrels that I've shot various ammunition through so far.
10.5" phosphate upper. IWI 55 grain M193, IWI M262 (77 grain Razor Core OTM Mod 1), IWI 62 grain M855. No issues. 10.5" nitride upper. IWI M193 & M262. No issues. 10.5" FN CHF CL upper. IWI M193 & M262. No issues. I have some 223 Rem 55 Grain FMJ Steel Case ammo made by Barnaul that I need to try when I'm at my Michigan property sometime as my local range won't let me shoot it there, but no experience as yet. |
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I have two. One 10.5" with A2 front sight. Nitride. Bought the "kit" cheap and built it on an Anderson lower.
Maybe 3k rounds through it. A little less than 1k of that crappy Wolf steel cased ammo. I had two failures with it shooting Wolf Gold suppressed. I don't shoot the steel cased stiff with the can. The other one is a CHF barreled upper. PSA "premium" BCG. About 5k through it. No issues. No steel cased crap. I keep them reasonably clean and shoot them well lubricated. |
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10.5" nitride. So far so good with steel and brass. I call it the trash panda and use corroded bags of range pickups after two gun matches. Big matches will fetch me almost 100 rds if I have the time to stay and clean up. I had to rod out a steel cased (couldn't tell which brand due to corrosion) once. It's a little overgassed though.
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Mine had problems with hotter loads. Swapped in an H2 buffer and all was well.
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