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Posted: 6/17/2018 10:45:34 PM EDT
The rules are simple. Using a Birchwood-Casey 5.5” target, which you can get an any Walmart. Standing and unsupported, 50 rounds at 50 yards.
The gun that I used was PSA Dissipator  Attached FileI was very pleased with my target  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/17/2018 11:05:29 PM EDT
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Looks damn good ill give it a try next time i go to the range
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Posted: 6/18/2018 1:07:06 AM EDT
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50 rounds? Mind if we split them to multiple targets?
Some of us are 3-4 MOA shooters on a good day and would chew the center out. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 5:48:49 AM EDT
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Didn't see the standing unsupported part.
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Posted: 6/18/2018 6:38:22 AM EDT
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50 rounds? Mind if we split them to multiple targets? Some of us are 3-4 MOA shooters on a good day and would chew the center out. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 7:05:07 AM EDT
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I did this back in 2009(?), glad to see the posts by non-participants are just as bafoonish as they were then.
That's a good target OP, I'll see if I can get out there this weekend and give it a go. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 7:53:43 AM EDT
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Good job OP! Standing unsupported, open irons, and firing every subsequent shot in just under a second... and this becomes a good drill... a great drill actually.
I like the idea of splitting up the 50 rounds in 2 targets though as another member posted. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 9:51:17 AM EDT
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@Jolrit
That's good shooting. The last time I did this I was shooting service rifle, right now I'd be happy with an 80% target. @jmreagan Right now there's no way I'd get above 40% on the bullseye with a 1-second time limit. I'd have to shoot this a lot to get to an acceptable success level |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 11:34:42 AM EDT
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Standing and unsupported? |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 11:54:10 AM EDT
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Good job OP! Standing unsupported, open irons, and firing every subsequent shot in just under a second... and this becomes a good drill... a great drill actually. I like the idea of splitting up the 50 rounds in 2 targets though as another member posted. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 12:05:46 PM EDT
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Please understand that this challenge isn’t intended to be any type of competition. This presents a yardstick to compare your personal marksmanship abilities with other members. I am not claiming to be the reincarnation of Billy Ray Dixon!
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Posted: 6/18/2018 12:34:55 PM EDT
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50 yards, 50 shots; but I only had access to a 3” pasty, not a 5.5” so the scale may look different.
 Attached FileI count 47 holes on the target, with 10 in the 3” zone.  Attached FileShot with my new 8.5” upper from psa. Using wolf 55gr jhp steel case. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 12:37:24 PM EDT
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I hope this isn't wrecked by guys who shoot once a year and claim they will shoot sub MOA, despite probably having not shot for accuracy unsupported possibly ever.
Practical accuracy (unsupported, moving, rapid fire) impresses me more than bench groups do now. I'll try and join next range trip. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 4:54:22 PM EDT
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Please understand that this challenge isn't intended to be any type of competition. This presents a yardstick to compare your personal marksmanship abilities with other members. I am not claiming to be the reincarnation of Billy Ray Dixon! -50+yds. -6" or less target (include SR-1). Inches, not MOA - approx. bigass Texas grapefruit size. -At least 10 shots per target. Or 1 shot on 10 targets. -Post a pic of plain results and rifle. After that, anymore data - numbered shots, shot calls, weather, mean radius, photo/video of position, etc - is appreciated. |
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Posted: 6/21/2018 12:43:11 PM EDT
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@Jolrit That's good shooting. The last time I did this I was shooting service rifle, right now I'd be happy with an 80% target. @jmreagan Right now there's no way I'd get above 40% on the bullseye with a 1-second time limit. I'd have to shoot this a lot to get to an acceptable success level |
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Posted: 6/21/2018 12:46:48 PM EDT
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50 yards, 50 shots; but I only had access to a 3” pasty, not a 5.5” so the scale may look different. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/467363/61718CB2-C56F-4A84-8C9B-1DB0DC24E50F-579783.JPG I count 47 holes on the target, with 10 in the 3” zone. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/467363/62E18030-60F0-4BAE-AED3-965D8832EA5C-579788.JPG Shot with my new 8.5” upper from psa. Using wolf 55gr jhp steel case. |
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Posted: 6/21/2018 12:55:59 PM EDT
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Just wanna make sure the yardstick is same enough for everyone. :) -50+yds. -6" or less target (include SR-1). Inches, not MOA - approx. bigass Texas grapefruit size. -At least 10 shots per target. Or 1 shot on 10 targets. -Post a pic of plain results and rifle. After that, anymore data - numbered shots, shot calls, weather, mean radius, photo/video of position, etc - is appreciated. Personally, I'm going to add split/shot time as a factor, again, for me personally. I plan to do one just like in the OP to keep it true to the OP's thread and respect the "yardstick"... Then one for me personally where time is in the equation and then compare the two of them. I'm in a wedding this weekend so it might be a minute for me to get around to both. |
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Posted: 6/21/2018 1:33:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I Agree with your "yardstick" clarification for sure... Personally, I'm going to add split/shot time as a factor, again, for me personally. I plan to do one just like in the OP to keep it true to the OP's thread and respect the "yardstick"... Then one for me personally where time is in the equation and then compare the two of them. I'm in a wedding this weekend so it might be a minute for me to get around to both. |
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Posted: 6/21/2018 2:10:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I Agree with your "yardstick" clarification for sure... Personally, I'm going to add split/shot time as a factor, again, for me personally. I plan to do one just like in the OP to keep it true to the OP's thread and respect the "yardstick"... Then one for me personally where time is in the equation and then compare the two of them. I'm in a wedding this weekend so it might be a minute for me to get around to both. I need to load ammo, Loctite and rezero my Nikon 3x, and do this tomorrow. |
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Posted: 6/21/2018 3:26:21 PM EDT
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Any optics restrictions? I will bite but it may be sometime before my range will not be swamp land with all the insane amount of rain we have got lately. Next we get the little blood suckers to start showing up.
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Posted: 6/21/2018 4:17:02 PM EDT
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I like this challenge. I don't think I'll shoot this weekend, but I should get out the one after. I'll try to join the party then.
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Posted: 6/21/2018 4:35:33 PM EDT
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50 yards, 50 shots; but I only had access to a 3” pasty, not a 5.5” so the scale may look different. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/467363/61718CB2-C56F-4A84-8C9B-1DB0DC24E50F-579783.JPG I count 47 holes on the target, with 10 in the 3” zone. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/467363/62E18030-60F0-4BAE-AED3-965D8832EA5C-579788.JPG Shot with my new 8.5” upper from psa. Using wolf 55gr jhp steel case. |
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Posted: 6/21/2018 5:22:04 PM EDT
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......its like a shot gun pattern from a sawed off side by side at 50 yds. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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50 yards, 50 shots; but I only had access to a 3” pasty, not a 5.5” so the scale may look different. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/467363/61718CB2-C56F-4A84-8C9B-1DB0DC24E50F-579783.JPG I count 47 holes on the target, with 10 in the 3” zone. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/467363/62E18030-60F0-4BAE-AED3-965D8832EA5C-579788.JPG Shot with my new 8.5” upper from psa. Using wolf 55gr jhp steel case. But at least I posted results... |
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Posted: 6/21/2018 7:32:50 PM EDT
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Neat. I hope to be able to participate. About the only change I might have suggested is to use 30 rounds. One mag....Doesn't really matter though.
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Posted: 6/21/2018 7:33:56 PM EDT
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Ahh..
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Posted: 6/22/2018 8:12:31 PM EDT
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Any optics restrictions? I will bite but it may be sometime before my range will not be swamp land with all the insane amount of rain we have got lately. Next we get the little blood suckers to start showing up. From the original thread: https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/-That-s-a-nice-group-from-the-bench-Now-let-s-see-you-hit-a-grapefruit-at-50-yards-offhand-/118-348400/?page=3#i4417829 |
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Posted: 6/22/2018 8:13:32 PM EDT
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I've got a video processing.
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Posted: 6/22/2018 9:19:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/23/2018 8:35:04 PM EDT
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50 yds, 50 rds, 50 hits
1/2” pasty dot for poa  Attached FileShot from my 11.5” with vortex red dot and magnifier.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/23/2018 10:23:17 PM EDT
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4 clicks down.
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Posted: 6/23/2018 10:58:27 PM EDT
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I shot all 50 into one hole, Robin Hood style.
Just kidding - I will see if I can get out and do this soon. With as much rain as we have here (hallelujah, God spared us from drought this year!), it's hard to get time to shoot. I had to mow the grass in the pouring rain yesterday - I kid you not. |
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Posted: 6/24/2018 7:32:44 AM EDT
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I'll have to give this a try next time I get out.
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Posted: 6/24/2018 9:19:11 AM EDT
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50 shots, 50 yards, 1/2” target
45 hits  Attached FileNorinco manufacture type 56 sks Wolf 123gr 7.62x39  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/24/2018 3:33:28 PM EDT
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50 shots, 50 yards, 1/2" target 45 hits https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/467363/5512CCDD-1AAE-4B54-9E09-2777A00C01D1-585807.JPG Norinco manufacture type 56 sks Wolf 123gr 7.62x39 https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/467363/4D371FA8-9DDD-436B-81A6-856F5AC55737-585806.JPG |
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Posted: 7/5/2018 5:29:14 PM EDT
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Get out, shoot, and bump the thread with results.
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Posted: 7/6/2018 12:52:07 PM EDT
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gave it a shot today. Used a home build gun with a DD barrel and an MRO. Sling was not used, just hung loose. Target was a 6" diameter. Ammo was Wolf Gold 55gr FMJ.
 Attached FileNot my best shooting but I'm happy considering I rarely shoot standing unsupported. I don't know what everybody's definition of slow fire is but I have a hard time holding my composure for more than 10-15shots at a time so I shot 5- 10 shot strings at 2-3sec/round then took a minute break in between while reloading. ETA. Ammo was PPU M 193 55gr and not WG. |
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Posted: 7/6/2018 12:54:14 PM EDT
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gave it a shot today. Used a home build gun with a DD barrel and an MRO. Sling was not used, just hung loose. Target was a 6" diameter. Ammo was Wolf Gold 55gr FMJ. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/199700/IMG_1437-599157.JPG Not my best shooting but I'm happy considering I rarely shoot standing unsupported. I don't know what everybody's definition of slow fire is but I have a hard time holding my composure for more than 10-15shots at a time so I shot 5- 10 shot strings at 2-3sec/round then took a minute break in between while reloading. |
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Posted: 7/6/2018 1:48:57 PM EDT
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Nice shooting! This is the type of feedback we all need |
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Posted: 7/20/2018 1:49:13 AM EDT
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50yd Smallbore targets at 50yds.
 AR15.com Grapefruit Challenge: Plucky Carbine 2 A bit of pulse. Windage was better than expected.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 6:40:17 PM EDT
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KOBE
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Posted: 8/13/2018 10:30:04 PM EDT
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A few weeks ago, I shot 30 rd magazine of each standing offhand, sitting and prone.
This was at 50 yds with AR pistol and MRO Pro. Firing a round every 1 - 2 seconds. Used to shoot open sites much further when my sight was better. I've always shot well from the sitting position. Never see anyone use it anymore. Did get a tick from shooting prone in some high grass. Sometimes I sprint and do push-ups, then shoot while my heart rate is up. More realistic and fun than just shooting from a bench. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 10:34:09 AM EDT
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Went out yesterday to give this a go. I used my A4-ish rifle that has a 20" Del-ton 1/9 Gov. profile barrel, standard A2 handguards, mil-spec trigger, poverty pony lower and upper, BCG is ?, A2 stock, iron sights.
 20180816_143623 by John, on Flickr
Used Wolf 55gr FMJ.  20180816_164750 by John, on Flickr
Wanted to first get a baseline of how the Wolf ammo shot, so fired a couple 10 round groups at 100 yards (well, miscounted one group and only shot 9 rounds). For this test I shot prone supported with the rifle topped with an SWFA 12x scope. The first 9 shot group was about 2.75", the second 10 shot group was about 3" center to center.  20180816_132924 by John, on Flickr
The target I used is the MR-31, which is about 5.75" in diameter.  20180816_180149 by John, on Flickr
Was about 90 degrees and soupy humid. I took my time doing this. Maybe not the best results but I did what I could with the equipment I had.  20180816_142725 by John, on Flickr
 20180816_142825 by John, on Flickr
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Posted: 8/18/2018 10:07:08 PM EDT
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Went out yesterday to give this a go. I used my A4-ish rifle that has a 20" Del-ton 1/9 Gov. profile barrel, standard A2 handguards, mil-spec trigger, poverty pony lower and upper, BCG is ?, A2 stock, iron sights. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1771/44078999991_a5354a8edb_z.jpg20180816_143623 by John, on Flickr Used Wolf 55gr FMJ. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1793/43360734774_50b4b84e5c_z.jpg20180816_164750 by John, on Flickr Wanted to first get a baseline of how the Wolf ammo shot, so fired a couple 10 round groups at 100 yards (well, miscounted one group and only shot 9 rounds). For this test I shot prone supported with the rifle topped with an SWFA 12x scope. The first 9 shot group was about 2.75", the second 10 shot group was about 3" center to center. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1820/29141877007_aebe498f6b_z.jpg20180816_132924 by John, on Flickr The target I used is the MR-31, which is about 5.75" in diameter. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1774/43173410505_a607946954_z.jpg20180816_180149 by John, on Flickr Was about 90 degrees and soupy humid. I took my time doing this. Maybe not the best results but I did what I could with the equipment I had. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1777/44030595772_f148218baa_z.jpg20180816_142725 by John, on Flickr https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1772/29141872457_e1eb988563_z.jpg20180816_142825 by John, on Flickr  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SjflZSvd7A |
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Posted: 8/18/2018 10:14:38 PM EDT
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So irons and optic are OK?! I feel like optics users will have a BIG advantage here.
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Posted: 8/18/2018 11:57:42 PM EDT
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So irons and optic are OK?! I feel like optics users will have a BIG advantage here. The challenge is meant to get people off the bench/ground and out of a coat. |
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Posted: 8/19/2018 12:08:43 PM EDT
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So irons and optic are OK?! I feel like optics users will have a BIG advantage here. I don't think optics offer a huge advantage. The basics are still the same - hold the rifle as steady as you can and break the shot when the sight(s) are on target. If anything, optics kind of accentuate how much "wobble" there is when holding offhand that you may not notice as much as when shooting irons. Try it either way - the results may surprise you. |
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Posted: 8/19/2018 2:23:17 PM EDT
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So irons and optic are OK?! I feel like optics users will have a BIG advantage here. |
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Posted: 8/19/2018 2:25:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can use whatever you like - optics, irons, it doesn't matter. I don't think optics offer a huge advantage. The basics are still the same - hold the rifle as steady as you can and break the shot when the sight(s) are on target. If anything, optics kind of accentuate how much "wobble" there is when holding offhand that you may not notice as much as when shooting irons. Try it either way - the results may surprise you. |
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Posted: 8/19/2018 2:25:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The objective is a personal no bull assessment of marksmanship skills. Shoot your best, be honest how you achieved your group. It's about real world shooting results as opposed to the stuff you hear the guy at the gun shop bragging about. |
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Posted: 8/19/2018 6:41:14 PM EDT
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Tag.
I'll try this next week at the range |
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Posted: 8/20/2018 9:09:13 PM EDT
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This was my last 10 rnd group I shot today re-zeroing my irons. I chopped my carry handle to make smaller rear sight. Target was a 2x2 square at 50 yrds. I was shooting semi supported, using mag as mono-pod, nothing else was touching the table. I know this kinda breaks the rules, but I'm heading back down this weekend to do some more shooting. Will get another shot group off hand
Rifle is DPMS Sportical, shooting Monarch steel cased 55 gr 
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