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Posted: 5/10/2020 11:19:23 AM EDT
My only concern is the little opening at the top of the handguards in front of the delta ring where the gas tube is exposed. Will it get hot enough to damage or melt the paracord?
the firearm has no front sight base or sling loop,and I want to use regular A2 carbine handguards.  |
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Posted: 5/8/2020 4:22:25 PM EDT
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Not in unless you're hiding a bump stock.
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Posted: 5/8/2020 4:27:09 PM EDT
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My only concern would be is that it will put pressure on the delta ring and if you do some shoot and scoot with your stick slung you could dislodge your handguards and that would suck. Other wise I wouldn't worry about heat. We used nothing but 550 cord and 100mph tape to modify our slings to work back in the day before all the high speed low drag stuff came out available to us in the Corps.
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Posted: 5/8/2020 4:51:44 PM EDT
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Heat won't be an issue. I ended up putting QD swivels on one of my slings but ran it secure with some 550 cord right by the gas block for several months. It blackened the cord but there didn't appear to be any loss of material integrity.
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Posted: 5/8/2020 5:37:20 PM EDT
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Can push the sling out to front sight triangle if needed
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Posted: 5/8/2020 6:49:06 PM EDT
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I do retro builds and use the old style usgi general purpose sling with the buckles cut off and use a paracord to make mount points. I did tie the paracord to the barrel and have melted the paracord before. I now tie it on the front sight post with success.
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Posted: 5/8/2020 8:04:57 PM EDT
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thanks, and as stated in the OP, the rifle has no front sight base, looks like this:
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Posted: 5/8/2020 8:38:47 PM EDT
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I can't imagine it would be a problem. I've used them on FSBs which get extremely hot vs the delta ring.
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Posted: 5/8/2020 9:25:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRW: thanks, and as stated in the OP, the rifle has no front sight base, looks like this: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/5205/cdm4zdsh-1406977.jpg What you got works. Also might I recommend the Blue force gear wire loop if you're worried about the paracord melting. |
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Posted: 5/9/2020 11:26:45 PM EDT
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Have you considered something like this... https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1004653397 ...or this... https://pkfirearms.com/kns-precision-ar15-handguard-sling-mount-stud …?
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Posted: 5/9/2020 11:32:04 PM EDT
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Howabout one of these on the front of your rail?
Rail Sling Mount |
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Posted: 5/9/2020 11:42:57 PM EDT
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In my experience the FSB can get hot enough to melt the Paracord. If it's a precision rig which won't get rapid fire you'll be fine. Run it at a carbine course and it will melt at some point.
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Posted: 5/9/2020 11:48:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you considered something like this... https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1004653397 ...or this... https://pkfirearms.com/kns-precision-ar15-handguard-sling-mount-stud ? |
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Posted: 5/9/2020 11:49:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat would be great but I have no rail  And the company that makes one to go on the A2 handguards wants $40 for it, so F-no |
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Posted: 5/9/2020 11:59:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRW: That would be great but I have no rail And the company that makes one to go on the A2 handguards wants $40 for it, so F-no The front of your flat top rail... in front of your RDS. That would put it very close to where you paracord is located now off the delta ring. Unless you're telling me you have an A2 upper with no front sight? 
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Posted: 5/10/2020 12:56:22 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/10/2020 8:22:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The front of your flat top rail... in front of your RDS. That would put it very close to where you paracord is located now off the delta ring. Unless you're telling me you have an A2 upper with no front sight?  The loop on the receiver rail is an idea... |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 8:49:03 AM EDT
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Put the sling directly on the handguards like this. It’d probably hold up better. With the paracord, you’re adding a point of possible failure. I have it on one of my retro builds like this (man it’s weird calling the early 2000’s “retro” lol) and it has been working great.
ETA: just realized you don’t have anything on the handguards forward of where it would be that would keep it from slipping off, though I don’t think it would. In that case, get one of these IDF sling attachment points. https://zahal.org/product/zahal-narrow-velcro-strap-sling-adapter/  
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Posted: 5/10/2020 10:37:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRW: well, yes, but that was a different project https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/5205/ARA2k_prototype-1312232.jpg The loop on the receiver rail is an idea... What am I missing here? Why the hell would you build an upper that way? |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 10:45:25 AM EDT
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The “why the hell would you?” Is a valid question.
But until then, BFG makes what you’re looking for. Universal Wire Loop |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 11:08:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI had looked all over for that and even ordered a cheapo strap with a D-ring off ebay with no velcro. I'll try this one too. |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 11:18:30 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/10/2020 11:19:23 AM EDT
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Topic Moved
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Posted: 5/10/2020 11:28:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What am I missing here? Why the hell would you build an upper that way? A prototype offshoot of my Lafrance M16k clone, but it's missing the carry handle front sight in that picture. the A2 upper allowed me to fine tune the elevation. https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/My-Retro-LaFrance-M16k-Clone/123-748765/ http://www.thenewrifleman.com/the-ar-k-a-do-it-yourself-lafrance-m16k-clone-retro-project/  |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 11:29:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Blue Force Gear makes a wire loop sling loop. UWL https://blueforcegear-cakc6ifvxd.netdna-ssl.com/image//cache/data/UWL-325/UniversalWireLoop325BlueForceGear135-600x400.jpg |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 12:48:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRW: You think the wire would run through the handguard holes? I looked at this previously and discarded the idea. How do you suggest I attach it? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRW: Originally Posted By Lancelot: Blue Force Gear makes a wire loop sling loop. UWL https://blueforcegear-cakc6ifvxd.netdna-ssl.com/image//cache/data/UWL-325/UniversalWireLoop325BlueForceGear135-600x400.jpg Probably something like this  |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 12:59:55 PM EDT
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it would slide right off the front. Again, there is no FSB
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Posted: 5/10/2020 1:24:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRW: You think the wire would run through the handguard holes? I looked at this previously and discarded the idea. How do you suggest I attach it?  It would work..barely |
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Posted: 5/10/2020 2:26:51 PM EDT
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I specifically use paracord loops for pig hunting. Super quiet
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Posted: 5/11/2020 2:32:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRW: it would slide right off the front. Again, there is no FSB https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/5205/cdm4zdsh-1406977.jpg Put it around the delta ring. Should keep it from sliding off. Just couldn’t find a picture off hand. |
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Posted: 5/11/2020 3:02:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AS556: What am I missing here? Why the hell would you build an upper that way? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AS556: Originally Posted By MRW: well, yes, but that was a different project https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/5205/ARA2k_prototype-1312232.jpg The loop on the receiver rail is an idea... What am I missing here? Why the hell would you build an upper that way?  . Metal Gear Solid - The Patriot Functional Replica |
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Posted: 5/11/2020 5:31:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryLOL! That's EXACTLY the picture that started it! |
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Posted: 5/11/2020 2:18:22 PM EDT
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Heres what I would do honestly.
Get one of these for $15, and install it on your handguard.  https://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/qd-micro-mount/ Yeah you will have to modify it, I'm assuming those drop in handguards are just from a spare parts bin or something? Theres also a chance it might work with a venthole on the bottom |
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Posted: 5/11/2020 4:14:17 PM EDT
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yeah, that could work! thank you
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Posted: 5/26/2020 12:30:22 PM EDT
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You can run a sling that is attached around the delta ring fine, I highly doubt you would
ever see problems with pulling the delta ring back. The only issue that I’ve seen is that sometimes if the sling is thick, it can move into a position where it ever so slightly blocks the ejection port and will create a malfunction when the bolt is ejecting. Folks had them attached to the delta ring for years when I was in. |
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