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Posted: 7/11/2022 12:44:31 PM EDT
[#1]
I don't have nods so genuine question here. Is the 2.9~ height from this much better than say a 2.26 unity with a small riser in front for your laser? Or, the about to be released 2.26 1 piece from jagerwerks? Frankly, if people want to buy this at $600 that is their decision. I am just curious if it actually provides a noticeable benefit to the alternative. I am assuming, the higher the dot, the easier to passive aim with nods so it would but that is just a guess.
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Posted: 7/11/2022 4:01:34 PM EDT
[#2]
GBRS order cancelled, picked up a used riser from a local buddy.
team Unity  
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Posted: 7/11/2022 4:15:33 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They're all coming at once, but GBRS will be first to market. Jagerwerks has been teasing their own design. HRF is making an attachment for the Unity FAST. Looks great! |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 4:24:18 PM EDT
[#4]
I like that Jagerwerks mount. Plus the price seems to be right
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Posted: 7/11/2022 8:59:36 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't have nods so genuine question here. Is the 2.9~ height from this much better than say a 2.26 unity with a small riser in front for your laser? Or, the about to be released 2.26 1 piece from jagerwerks? Frankly, if people want to buy this at $600 that is their decision. I am just curious if it actually provides a noticeable benefit to the alternative. I am assuming, the higher the dot, the easier to passive aim with nods so it would but that is just a guess. You can passive aim with a lower 1/3 optic just fine. It being taller just helps for SOME people. This GBRS mount is 6061 aluminum and has hex screw. GBRS are a bunch of grifters and nobody should give them attention. |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 9:12:53 PM EDT
[#6]
Cool Idea but not in my wheelhouse.
I usually support GBRS products if its something I need though. |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 9:13:13 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: GBRS order cancelled, picked up a used riser from a local buddy. team Unity https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52209801733_4e19edc15f_b.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52209814178_213abecbb1_b.jpg Your front sight doesn't line up. 
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Posted: 7/11/2022 9:19:26 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Your front sight doesn't line up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: GBRS order cancelled, picked up a used riser from a local buddy. team Unity https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52209801733_4e19edc15f_b.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52209814178_213abecbb1_b.jpg Your front sight doesn't line up. Independent sighting systems. Not an issue. |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 9:31:55 PM EDT
[#9]
If you watch the Delta hostage rescue vid from Iraq, you will see the vintage version of this- an EO mounted on top of an M4 carrying handle.
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Posted: 7/11/2022 9:57:21 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you watch the Delta hostage rescue vid from Iraq, you will see the vintage version of this- an EO mounted on top of an M4 carrying handle. dudes did that kinda stuff because they were required to maintain control of their carry handle sights. Same ballpark as carry handles mounted onto the ras. |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 10:06:00 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: dudes did that kinda stuff because they were required to maintain control of their carry handle sights. Same ballpark as carry handles mounted onto the ras. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you watch the Delta hostage rescue vid from Iraq, you will see the vintage version of this- an EO mounted on top of an M4 carrying handle. dudes did that kinda stuff because they were required to maintain control of their carry handle sights. Same ballpark as carry handles mounted onto the ras. In Delta? No. |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 10:06:44 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You can passive aim with a lower 1/3 optic just fine. It being taller just helps for SOME people. This GBRS mount is 6061 aluminum and has hex screw. GBRS are a bunch of grifters and nobody should give them attention. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't have nods so genuine question here. Is the 2.9~ height from this much better than say a 2.26 unity with a small riser in front for your laser? Or, the about to be released 2.26 1 piece from jagerwerks? Frankly, if people want to buy this at $600 that is their decision. I am just curious if it actually provides a noticeable benefit to the alternative. I am assuming, the higher the dot, the easier to passive aim with nods so it would but that is just a guess. You can passive aim with a lower 1/3 optic just fine. It being taller just helps for SOME people. This GBRS mount is 6061 aluminum and has hex screw. GBRS are a bunch of grifters and nobody should give them attention. So the guys are grifters since they designed a product and put a price on it? |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 11:07:24 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: With all the drama surrounding that company I rather not support them honestly. If they treat "their brothers" that way I just wonder how they treat everyone else.  Apparently one of them had a massive falling out with his own famous SEAL dad - Don Shipley |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 7:08:09 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Your front sight doesn't line up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Your front sight doesn't line up. Quoted: Independent sighting systems. Not an issue. Lol yeah and it's probably coming off anyway, let's be real if the optic goes down I'm just gonna bracket in the micro's tube and send it. |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 8:10:36 AM EDT
[#15]
I do wish it was not 6061 and was 7075 aluminum instead. However, I still got one to test.
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Posted: 7/12/2022 8:21:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/12/2022 9:03:36 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I do wish it was not 6061 and was 7075 aluminum instead. However, I still got one to test. 6061 has me scratching my head. But what do I know. |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 12:21:00 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I really wanted this mount but the price is just too far off the mark for me to purchase. Buy a KAC Skyscraper and turn it around. |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 12:21:46 PM EDT
[#19]
The Gen 2 and 3 will be solid.
This one is a pass. |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 12:37:02 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Gen 2 and 3 will be solid. This one is a pass. Explain further? |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 1:30:54 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So the guys are grifters since they designed a product and put a price on it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't have nods so genuine question here. Is the 2.9~ height from this much better than say a 2.26 unity with a small riser in front for your laser? Or, the about to be released 2.26 1 piece from jagerwerks? Frankly, if people want to buy this at $600 that is their decision. I am just curious if it actually provides a noticeable benefit to the alternative. I am assuming, the higher the dot, the easier to passive aim with nods so it would but that is just a guess. You can passive aim with a lower 1/3 optic just fine. It being taller just helps for SOME people. This GBRS mount is 6061 aluminum and has hex screw. GBRS are a bunch of grifters and nobody should give them attention. So the guys are grifters since they designed a product and put a price on it? For how much it costs I would expect it to be 7075... |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 1:48:54 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lower 1/3 won't cut it for most. Don't care what Matt shows, too many have tried with lower 1/3 for passive and it's bad. Also, not everyone wants the larger-windowed Etch for multiple reasons. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: XrayAlpha, Matt Pranka, former CAG guy absolutely hates this mount lol. He posted a video this morning on instagram on how you don't need these super tall mounts for passive aiming. Video showed him raising his rifle without nods. Then with nods. Presentation was the same and he could see through his tube and through his Eotech EXPS. I definitely think there's a limit, with 1.9"-2ish" being the sweet spot, but lower 1/3rd is the bare minimum, imo. For running nods or armor, higher than a L1/3rd is definitely great. Not that you can't do it, it's just so much easier and much for forgiving, plus less strain on your neck. This mount putting the optic at nearly 3" is interesting.. Lower 1/3 won't cut it for most. Don't care what Matt shows, too many have tried with lower 1/3 for passive and it's bad. Also, not everyone wants the larger-windowed Etch for multiple reasons. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 4:06:23 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For how much it costs I would expect it to be 7075... 7075 and type III anodized. |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 11:56:19 AM EDT
[#24]
What a joke. Those guys pretty much only train LE and soldiers. Never get a dollar from me.
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Posted: 7/14/2022 11:58:44 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because most people here don't do what the mounts are designed for. No, we do. It’s designed for their bank account. The careful observer will note that most of the guns they have these on, in the recent pics on their social media platforms, are no where near short enough to have rail space issues. Enough said. |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 12:13:29 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, we do. It’s designed for their bank account. The careful observer will note that most of the guns they have these on, in the recent pics on their social media platforms, are no where near short enough to have rail space issues. Enough said. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Because most people here don't do what the mounts are designed for. No, we do. It’s designed for their bank account. The careful observer will note that most of the guns they have these on, in the recent pics on their social media platforms, are no where near short enough to have rail space issues. Enough said. You're mad that they designed a mount and get a profit from it? Lots of butt hurt for something that you don't have to buy if you don't want it in here. |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 12:18:01 PM EDT
[#27]
They're all just shills now. Good for them, Capitalism and all that. Glad they're making money, it just won't come from my wallet
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Posted: 7/14/2022 2:34:45 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, we do. It’s designed for their bank account. The careful observer will note that most of the guns they have these on, in the recent pics on their social media platforms, are no where near short enough to have rail space issues. Enough said. I’d run it on a 14.5 urgi to get my arm out further. |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 4:04:02 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Was he joking about the price in the comments? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: They're all coming at once, but GBRS will be first to market. Jagerwerks has been teasing their own design. HRF is making an attachment for the Unity FAST. Looks great! Was he joking about the price in the comments?  " />And link to HRF attachment. HRF Concepts SKIFF (that works with Unity FAST) |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 7:36:33 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://i.imgur.com/aNsDrUl.png" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/aNsDrUl.png And link to HRF attachment. HRF Concepts SKIFF (that works with Unity FAST) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: They're all coming at once, but GBRS will be first to market. Jagerwerks has been teasing their own design. HRF is making an attachment for the Unity FAST. Looks great! Was he joking about the price in the comments? https://i.imgur.com/aNsDrUl.png" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/aNsDrUl.png And link to HRF attachment. HRF Concepts SKIFF (that works with Unity FAST) The HRF mounts sit lower and look better. I'd suspect lawsuit inbound |
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Posted: 7/14/2022 11:16:26 PM EDT
[#31]
$570 for the HRF, even IF that price includes the Unity fast mount thats too much. its just a clamp on bracket with some pic rail. $200 for that would be a rip off.
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Posted: 7/14/2022 11:34:06 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: $570 for the HRF, even IF that price includes the Unity fast mount thats too much. its just a clamp on bracket with some pic rail. $200 for that would be a rip off. Quote HistoryQuoted: $570 for the HRF, even IF that price includes the Unity fast mount thats too much. its just a clamp on bracket with some pic rail. $200 for that would be a rip off. From HRF (you must not have read that conversation far enough): it’s a joke, they’ll be in the $120 range. So plus a $200 unity puts you just over $300 for the setup. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 1:31:36 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: From HRF (you must not have read that conversation far enough): Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: $570 for the HRF, even IF that price includes the Unity fast mount thats too much. its just a clamp on bracket with some pic rail. $200 for that would be a rip off. From HRF (you must not have read that conversation far enough): it’s a joke, they’ll be in the $120 range. So plus a $200 unity puts you just over $300 for the setup. Why not just get another Unity riser for the laser? |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 1:49:17 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why not just get another Unity riser for the laser? |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 10:53:58 AM EDT
[#35]
Another picture of the HRF Skiff
It'd be interesting to know how it attaches. Doesn't look like it would attach to the picatinny rail. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 11:14:23 AM EDT
[#36]
I'm waiting for LaRue to come out with one. It will be epic.
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Posted: 7/15/2022 11:43:42 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lower 1/3 won't cut it for most. Don't care what Matt shows, too many have tried with lower 1/3 for passive and it's bad. Also, not everyone wants the larger-windowed Etch for multiple reasons. This. This. And this. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 1:23:50 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Another picture of the HRF Skiff It'd be interesting to know how it attaches. Doesn't look like it would attach to the picatinny rail. Yes, curious about RTZ results |
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Posted: 7/18/2022 3:00:01 PM EDT
[#39]
I for one have found that the hydra is much more useable with a riser than without. But someone who is taller than me may find otherwise.
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Posted: 7/18/2022 3:25:36 PM EDT
[#40]
6061, cerakote, and YFS fasteners
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Posted: 7/18/2022 4:17:08 PM EDT
[#41]
It has made its way onto an LVAW already.
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Posted: 7/18/2022 4:19:52 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote History
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Posted: 7/18/2022 4:21:24 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryThanks! |
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Posted: 7/19/2022 12:35:15 AM EDT
[#44]
Same gun...
 ETA... why aren't the pics showing up? |
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Posted: 7/19/2022 6:03:46 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Same gun... https://attachment.tapatalk-cdn.com/71799/202207/33995_041858599fb4ba5c7328be793c51916a.jpg?Expires=1658446404&Signature=Xys4dz3ev4TD5VjHSClsNfS2FOUu9LTxN3xS4cYfj7~f8TLwIJ-i5bpWxkJ8eXvbgqKEUsrSMdMpxegZKjx-v7zRib5IjY0Fkeg2s8F1Dlpo4BuX7Ve8jlYZuxu42Ha5m83Ji2Uc5y22vdXpaVf~f9hroGlTBOwaAxzG2IQloWFIM5VGH51CSql~5fsZaiPXZyYBeTMf0L6ORMbKypk6HnzbbK-tITxe2Uw1IwhrJUvvTtR7M65R-TDq9yxjfZzyhLS4Eo8QaaGoiKhWpzBjFTCXIsXgUtvxRBdzk5Mp3LB5ZsNnSVCAG0nIj6u3voa5rErkwfikwaL1wDxdALHmpA__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAJS72YROXJYGYDADA ETA... why aren't the pics showing up? I got you, bro. That’s one expensive looking gun. 
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Posted: 7/19/2022 7:45:06 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I got you, bro. That’s one expensive looking gun. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/0AD5297F-E59B-44AE-931E-92DE5F0E5894-2458463.jpg Well, it is a CAG gun.... |
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Posted: 7/19/2022 8:48:48 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You can passive aim with a lower 1/3 optic just fine. It being taller just helps for SOME people. This GBRS mount is 6061 aluminum and has hex screw. GBRS are a bunch of grifters and nobody should give them attention. This is truth, passive aiming isn’t hard with a 1/3. You don’t need to have your stock in the perfect shoulder pocket. Bring the optic to your eye. Our modern AR’s with brakes, suppressors, A5 systems etc etc don’t kick much. You’ll be fine. |
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Posted: 7/19/2022 11:30:27 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is truth, passive aiming isn’t hard with a 1/3. You don’t need to have your stock in the perfect shoulder pocket. Bring the optic to your eye. Our modern AR’s with brakes, suppressors, A5 systems etc etc don’t kick much. You’ll be fine. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You can passive aim with a lower 1/3 optic just fine. It being taller just helps for SOME people. This GBRS mount is 6061 aluminum and has hex screw. GBRS are a bunch of grifters and nobody should give them attention. This is truth, passive aiming isn’t hard with a 1/3. You don’t need to have your stock in the perfect shoulder pocket. Bring the optic to your eye. Our modern AR’s with brakes, suppressors, A5 systems etc etc don’t kick much. You’ll be fine. You're right. It isn't hard. It's absolutely miserable. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 4:57:40 PM EDT
[#49]
Another pic of that LVAW setup:
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Posted: 7/21/2022 12:48:50 AM EDT
[#50]
Is that an offset thermal on that gun?
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