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Posted: 11/12/2018 12:28:38 PM EDT
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In my experience, it is ballistically similar to T2 TAP.
There was a thread on here about a kaboom using this ammo- I never heard the final conclusion though. BTW, I think it's like $8.43/box over at Sportsman Outdoor Superstore. |
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Posted: 11/12/2018 12:35:03 PM EDT
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Too many reported kabooms in Frontier ammo to stock up on any, in my opinion. Not specifically with this ammo, but across the line.
Although I am sure statiscally with the amount they are selling right now, this is a small sample size of reported issues. |
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Posted: 11/12/2018 12:47:53 PM EDT
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Kabooms, really?
I would have thought being an umbrella brand of Hornady it would be solid ammo. |
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Posted: 11/12/2018 1:01:47 PM EDT
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Too many reported kabooms in Frontier ammo to stock up on any, in my opinion. Not specifically with this ammo, but across the line. Although I am sure statiscally with the amount they are selling right now, this is a small sample size of reported issues. |
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Posted: 11/12/2018 1:07:14 PM EDT
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Kabooms, really? I would have thought being an umbrella brand of Hornady it would be solid ammo. |
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Posted: 11/12/2018 1:21:10 PM EDT
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Quoted: Hornady brand, Hornady bullets, loaded by Federal at Lake City. Guess I'll avoid though, if they're kabooming all over. |
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Posted: 11/12/2018 2:48:26 PM EDT
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I've shot over 500 hundred rounds of the Frontier 75 gr as well as their 62 gr SP out of 2 different AR's. I've not had a single problem.
You can get it a lot cheaper than $13/20. Here's some good reading for ya. https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Received-some-Frontier-5-56-75gr/16-724790/ |
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Posted: 11/12/2018 4:37:17 PM EDT
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I have shot around 250 or so rounds of the hornady 55gr hollow point match and have had NO kabooms. The ammo has been pretty consistent and accurate (a tad more than m193).
Here’s my lot #:  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/12/2018 8:52:20 PM EDT
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My HD/bench ammo is all MK262 clones right now, but prior to that I had put about 400 rounds of the Frontier T2 through an 18" DD upper.
0 issues, quality accuracy, T2 bullet pulls double duty for defense and bench shooting. YMMV but I'll probably buy some more soon. The Frontier M193 clone seems to be a problem child. |
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Posted: 11/12/2018 9:40:46 PM EDT
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My HD/bench ammo is all MK262 clones right now, but prior to that I had put about 400 rounds of the Frontier T2 through an 18" DD upper. 0 issues, quality accuracy, T2 bullet pulls double duty for defense and bench shooting. YMMV but I'll probably buy some more soon. The Frontier M193 clone seems to be a problem child. |
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Posted: 11/12/2018 10:55:57 PM EDT
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My firearms like it, no problems
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Posted: 11/13/2018 1:29:43 AM EDT
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Good to go for me, although it wasn’t really close to as accurate as the Black load with the same T2 bullet. The Frontier 62 gr has been my surprise. I bought it close to .30 per round. It groups at a steady 1.3”-1.5” 5-10 shot groups. Not too shabby for bulk FMJ. The Frontier 75 gr was about 2”. Vertical strings. The rifle is 1 moa with Hornady match 75 gr.
Stag 3 gun elite upper w18” 1-8 fluted bull barrel. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 1:31:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have there been any specific quality issues with the 75gr T2 Frontier? I can't seem to find any and, for the price, it seems like an ideal round to stock up on. But the 75gr T2 loading hasnt caused me any issues and is consistently available for a great price. I'll continue to shoot it. Hopefully someone will gel test it so we can see how it performs vis a vis other T2 loadings. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 2:30:08 AM EDT
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I could be wrong, but all the bad reports I have seen are the Frontier M193 specifically.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 4:28:17 AM EDT
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Tagging for interest.
I too have seen more KB and over pressure reports to feel confident in the Frontier line. I bought few boxes of almost every loading; wanting to do some accuracy T&E. After the reports surfaced around the same time, I decide to wait. It’s still all sitting in the safe. Just holding off to see if more issues are described. In the interim, I’ve been inspecting all of it when I have time. Also have been weighing and measuring OAL for every cartridge. FWIW, nothing seems out of the ordinary. They’re actually pretty consistent in OAL and weight. At the same time, I acknowledge that weighing the whole cartridge probably isn’t the most meaningful data to collect. At the prices it’s going for, I had high hopes. I still do. But I’ve tempered my enthusiasm. IIRC, the reported issues spanned both different loadings and lot numbers. Yet, I don’t recall the 75gr offering being the subject of any complaints. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 8:46:48 AM EDT
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I’ve followed the complaints on this ammo. I didn’t see anything definitive. Lots of discussion and it fades away.
I’ve stockpiled 3,500 rounds between the M193 and 75gr versions. And I’ve used it in temps from 40deg to 90deg, out of three Colt uppers for casual shooting and patrol rifle quals. It’s good ammo. Although $13/20 is a lot. It’s frequently on sale near me for $6.99-8.99 a box |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:55:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/14/2018 12:35:14 AM EDT
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I dialed in on this because the more affordable T2 round appealed to me. Ran it in against many other affordable options, less than .60 per round. My platforms are nothing fancy, very run of the mill (1:7, 16" chrome). Three different shooters. This was neck and neck with the 64g Speer GD score from Palmetto. Consistently between 1 and 2 MOA. As I recall the heavier TAC PMC also did well but would go random on us. No hiccups after close to 1k rounds of this particular ammo. Rings 10" steel at 500 more easily and consistently than the GD, but that makes sense......I think. More ooomph from a 5.56 load and heavier? I'd like to buy more but just went big (for me) on glass. I am a fan of this particular Hornady round. BTW, not by far an expert. Just relaying real life observations.
edit: Oh and would love to see a ballistics test! |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 12:59:06 AM EDT
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What kinda glass did you get?
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Posted: 11/16/2018 2:51:43 PM EDT
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Do y'all have any tips on where to find this stuff at the lowest price per round?
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Posted: 11/16/2018 3:07:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/16/2018 3:19:44 PM EDT
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Do y'all have any tips on where to find this stuff at the lowest price per round? |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 4:55:09 PM EDT
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For how much? Anyone remember how much the IMI 77gr stuff was on sale for? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do y'all have any tips on where to find this stuff at the lowest price per round? |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 5:46:26 PM EDT
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Do y'all have any tips on where to find this stuff at the lowest price per round? https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/205991 Graf and Sons has it for $9.99 for a 20 rd box. They have flat rate shipping of $7.95 per order. They too are GTG. https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/76206 Classic Firearms has it for $8.76 for 20. For me, 500 rds with shipping would be $231.50. https://www.classicfirearms.com/frontier-cartridge-fr320-frontier-223-remington-556-nato/ |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 5:59:18 PM EDT
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Ammoseek is what I used to find the Frontier for the best prices. It moves around a good bit so it’s worth it to take a look occasionally.
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Posted: 11/19/2018 6:22:34 PM EDT
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I dialed in on this because the more affordable T2 round appealed to me. Ran it in against many other affordable options, less than .60 per round. My platforms are nothing fancy, very run of the mill (1:7, 16" chrome). Three different shooters. This was neck and neck with the 64g Speer GD score from Palmetto. Consistently between 1 and 2 MOA. As I recall the heavier TAC PMC also did well but would go random on us. No hiccups after close to 1k rounds of this particular ammo. Rings 10" steel at 500 more easily and consistently than the GD, but that makes sense......I think. More ooomph from a 5.56 load and heavier? I'd like to buy more but just went big (for me) on glass. I am a fan of this particular Hornady round. BTW, not by far an expert. Just relaying real life observations. edit: Oh and would love to see a ballistics test! |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 11:09:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many rounds? No kabooms for you, or signs of over pressure? |
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Posted: 11/28/2018 12:36:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/9/2018 4:38:19 PM EDT
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Been running on my DD 16" 1:7 with NightForce. Very accurate. Almost compatible to Hornady 75g match ammo.
No hiccups. |
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Posted: 12/12/2018 7:51:17 PM EDT
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I have used it to test several new builds in past few months and have not had any issues. Clean and very acceptable grouping out to 200 yds. And you can find it from several outlets for under $9 a box.
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