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Posted: 3/23/2018 11:43:26 PM EDT
I’m looking to jog some memories on AR stuff from the early to mid 2000’s.
What things come to mind for AR parts and accessories that would have been new gadgets/gimmicks to upgrade your AR? For example original Magpul MAG-001 magpuls or the Badger Ordnance tactical charging handle latch. What other things were cool or popular for AR enthusiasts just before or around the expiration of the AWB? Before the industry really took off. |
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I remember ordering an aluminum VFG and this bottom rail adapter deal for my Colt “Match Target M4 Carbine” in like 2002 from GG & G. I remember seeing a KAC VFG and thinking it was cheap because it was plastic lol. Gave it to my brother when he went to Iraq in ‘03 along with an ARMS gooseneck & C-More sight.
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I remember this day well, the Klinton AWB ban had sunset, and we could buy hicap mags agai I never thought the turds in Washington would allow it to sunset. https://i.imgur.com/MTikPU6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/fjZBo9k.jpg My first 6.8SPC, it was a RRA upper. https://i.imgur.com/DVa3zjv.jpg View Quote For me, I remember thinking at the time that the RRA DEA carbine was the f*cking ultimate. GUNS Magazine DEA Carbine Feature Now looking at it, my favorite part about the article is where they say ”It was a foregone conclusion that ‘stuff’ was going to be hung on the gun”... |
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I remember ordering an aluminum VFG and this bottom rail adapter deal for my Colt “Match Target M4 Carbine” in like 2002 from GG & G. I remember seeing a KAC VFG and thinking it was cheap because it was plastic lol. Gave it to my brother when he went to Iraq in ‘03 along with an ARMS gooseneck & C-More sight. View Quote |
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Two words: Quad Rail
Back around the time when the AWB sunset, and perhaps a bit before, I can remember thinking to myself that one day I too would have the means to hang a bunch of crap off the hand guards of my AR15. Fast forward to today, where I've been using an AR for work now since 2005 and my preferred rifle is a basic carbine with standard M4 hand guards, a standard M4 stock, a fixed front sight and a rear BUIS. I've ditched my Aimpoint, my Magpul furniture, my BCM charging handle, my quad rail hand guards, and my light in favor of a handy basic carbine on a single point sling that rocks and rolls with very little to go wrong. I'm over the whizbang accessories. |
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Quoted: I've ditched my Aimpoint, my Magpul furniture, my BCM charging handle, my quad rail hand guards, and my light in favor of a handy basic carbine on a single point sling that rocks and rolls with very little to go wrong. I'm over the whizbang accessories. View Quote |
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Let's try this. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/150x100q90/922/ARjBRs.jpg Doesn't get much more basic than that, and I trust my life to this setup. ***Edited to add that this is the first time I've posted a pic online since photobucket started charging. Not sure why it cam out as an avatar sized image. Still, you can get the idea.*** View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: post pics or GTFO Doesn't get much more basic than that, and I trust my life to this setup. ***Edited to add that this is the first time I've posted a pic online since photobucket started charging. Not sure why it cam out as an avatar sized image. Still, you can get the idea.*** |
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Imageshack: making German Shepherds look like weiner dogs since 2018 https://i.imgur.com/QJQSwBJ.jpg View Quote |
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You were a God if you had a Pre Ban
You were cool if you had: Flat top uppers M4 profile barrels Anything that had “M4” associated with it. Pinned collapsible stock Trijicon ACOG or Reflex You were gay if you had a barrel with no muzzle device attached. |
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I remember the LaRue challenge. Give us your broken ARMS mount and we will replace it.
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What was that hideous crank monstrosity that survived the 80's and into the 90's that was an early type of bump or gatling whatever device?
I remember coming home on leave shooting my Olympic 15 in 99 and seeing some old guy walk up proudly, unzipped his gun bags, and whipped out a Bushmaster with it on |
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What was that hideous crank monstrosity that survived the 80's and into the 90's that was an early type of bump or gatling whatever device? I remember coming home on leave shooting my Olympic 15 in 99 and seeing some old guy walk up proudly, unzipped his gun bags, and whipped out a Bushmaster with it on View Quote |
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The GAT trigger? Hahahaha! What garbage those were. Still, there were a lot of "cool kids" who had to have one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What was that hideous crank monstrosity that survived the 80's and into the 90's that was an early type of bump or gatling whatever device? I remember coming home on leave shooting my Olympic 15 in 99 and seeing some old guy walk up proudly, unzipped his gun bags, and whipped out a Bushmaster with it on |
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Remember the HI RAIL uppers so you could mount a bigger scope without tall rings and before risers? I found mine and put it together with my bolt action 300/221 upper. It’s a DPMS upper with a FAL style charging handle.
Then there were the Frankenstein’mags where steel AR mags were cut and welded to AK47 mags for 7.62x39. I had a welder make me six 40rd mags and they worked perfect. How anout the silly 4-inch pistol buffer setup that never really worked reliably. I remember A1s with the carry handles chopped off and weaver rails mounted to the receiver before A3s were introduced. |
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Remember the HI RAIL uppers so you could mount a bigger scope without tall rings and before risers? I found mine and put it together with my bolt action 300/221 upper. It’s a DPMS upper with a FAL style charging handle. Then there were the Frankenstein’mags where steel AR mags were cut and welded to AK47 mags for 7.62x39. I had a welder make me six 40rd mags and they worked perfect. How anout the silly 4-inch pistol buffer setup that never really worked reliably. I remember A1s with the carry handles chopped off and weaver rails mounted to the receiver before A3s were introduced. View Quote It was more 90's tech than 2000's but it created quite a stir when I showed up for an MG shoot with that setup. Along with a Rhino gas piston conversion. Attached File Attached File |
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I thought I was the shit when I sprung for a couple of these https://i.imgur.com/TZJk3I1.jpg View Quote |
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RIP Pentagon.. those were good lights.. I remember all the DIY guides on how to mount a light or VFG to the OEM handguards... the original Magpull.. the RRA pressed on fake flash hiders.. the RRA entry stubby stock.. the commercial RE.. The ABC rule on arfcom and the Oly bashing Hbar everywhere.. |
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One of the things that I remember was guys chopping a removal carry handle to make their own BUIS.
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I thought I was the shit when I sprung for a couple of these https://i.imgur.com/TZJk3I1.jpg View Quote Made the cover of SWAT 3 (1999). Attached File |
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The Millet DMS-1 was all the rage for a 1-4 that didn't break the bank.
Larue Mounts were in full swing in early 2000's..... And yeah, the KAC VFG's were one everyone's M4. Practically everyone's. If people didn't have an RIS, they attached a rail to the handguards so they could VFG. Those 1 piece surefire VFG's with light were also kind of popular for those who had the money to. |
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Still needs a more appropriate stock and grip - thinking Vltor EMOD and something Tango Down. Anything ARMS is 1994-2004 except their collapsible FSB which is 2007 and I think 2013 for the not-shitty throw levers. Too bad all the Magpul USGI Meglevels are gone... I'd pay a pretty penny for one of those in good shape! https://i.imgur.com/uQSsTtP.jpg View Quote I cut my teeth in the Army on stuff made during that timeframe. I really need to gather parts. |
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The Millet DMS-1 was all the rage for a 1-4 that didn't break the bank. Larue Mounts were in full swing in early 2000's..... And yeah, the KAC VFG's were one everyone's M4. Practically everyone's. If people didn't have an RIS, they attached a rail to the handguards so they could VFG. Those 1 piece surefire VFG's with light were also kind of popular for those who had the money to. View Quote |
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I mean, the SPR in a way was the culmination of the best 1999-2001 or so had to offer when they were fielded. Free float handguard, ARMS full length sleeve, Douglas match-grade barrel, their folding FSB with an elevation adjustment wheel, ARMS mounts for the scope with railed ring cap, ARMS BUIS, a Leupold 3.5-10 with illuminated mildot, an OPS Inc suppressor, DMPS ambidextrous safeties, Eagle 3 point slings, NP3 plated PRI Gasbuster charging handles with big latches, and a Knight's 2-stage FA trigger. After Iraq the parts explosion blew up plus the AWB sunset, and FF rails and handguard options exploded, LaRue and others started making cantilever mounts, and the whole SPR/Mod 0 thing stopped making as much sense. https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4336/36800714716_8a69173e39_o.jpg View Quote My Mk12mod0 still roams the earth , albeit with better glass, killing animals, making ridiculous groups when shooting, etc. There is much to be said for a semi-monolithic upper, which free-float doesn't really address. |
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Quoted: Maybe not "popular" but JP Enterprises used to sell a thumbhole stock. I had one and I wish I still had it because it was cool and they stopped selling them. http://cdn2.armslist.com/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2013/06/08/1736428_01_jp_enterprises_custom_ar_15_bu_640.jpg View Quote |
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Ergo.
What was the plastic VFG with the 2 spring loaded plungers that slid on to a rail? People bitched about them not fitting and the manufacturer bitched about out of spec rails. |
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I mean, the SPR in a way was the culmination of the best 1999-2001 or so had to offer when they were fielded. Free float handguard, ARMS full length sleeve, Douglas match-grade barrel, their folding FSB with an elevation adjustment wheel, ARMS mounts for the scope with railed ring cap, ARMS BUIS, a Leupold 3.5-10 with illuminated mildot, an OPS Inc suppressor, DMPS ambidextrous safeties, Eagle 3 point slings, NP3 plated PRI Gasbuster charging handles with big latches, and a Knight's 2-stage FA trigger. After Iraq the parts explosion blew up plus the AWB sunset, and FF rails and handguard options exploded, LaRue and others started making cantilever mounts, and the whole SPR/Mod 0 thing stopped making as much sense. https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4336/36800714716_8a69173e39_o.jpg View Quote |
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CAA stock saddle. It fit over the standard M4 stock and gave a LMT SOPMOD appearance. This was actually a well spent $20.
VFG on a section rail screwed to the standard handguard. Nothing beats a loose VFG (because its attached to a plastic handguard held in place with the D-Ring). Tactical latch installed in a standard charging handle. I still use these. Crappy flip up rear sights (ARMS #40, original blocky GG&G, goofy YHM with knurled attachment knob, etc). We all loved those large, obtrusive sights that had a tendency to lose their detent power. SureFire M500 Dedicated Light Handguard (looked like a standard M4 handguard but with a SureFire INCAN light molded in). I felt like I was in T2 when I ran one of these. It just had that "90's cool" factor ... Complicated 3 Point Sling system with enough webbing to outfit a dozen rifles. Good stuff if you like your gun hung up on your gear, door knob, testicles, etc. and my personal favorite stupid old AR fad ........ (drum roll please) HEAVY BARRELS |
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I forgot one ...
This is circa 1996 but I think it counts since I rocked it until after 2000 .... Trijicon TA45 1.5x ACOG mounted in a fixed A2 upper carry handle. It required a chin weld to see through the optic . |
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I've probably been an AR owner longer than some on this board. I assembled my first in 1984. Bought my first factory Colt AR-15 that same year. I've continuously owned ARs for the past 34 years. Wow, I'm getting old.
Anyway, I remember buying a Bushmaster around 1994 that had a 11.5 barrel with pinned 5.5" flash suppressor. I was definitely the coolest guy at the range with that retard config . I also remember thinking those skinny A1 barrels on my rifles were "garbage" when Colt switched to the HBAR and Delta HBAR. WTF. |
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