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Posted: 10/17/2018 10:21:18 AM EDT
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What caliber?
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Posted: 10/17/2018 10:21:23 AM EDT
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Federal 62gr Fushion MSR is good stuff!
ETA: Assuming 5.56/223 |
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Posted: 10/17/2018 10:23:17 AM EDT
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Federal 62gr Fushion MSR is good stuff! ETA: Assuming 5.56/223 |
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Posted: 10/17/2018 10:36:55 AM EDT
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yes, sorry. .223 / 5.56
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Posted: 10/17/2018 10:38:16 AM EDT
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I'm not a fan of .223/5.56 for deer or hogs, but if I were to use it, I would use the 64 grain stuff.
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Posted: 10/17/2018 8:20:51 PM EDT
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Federal 62gr Fushion MSR is good stuff! ETA: Assuming 5.56/223 |
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Posted: 10/18/2018 10:18:45 AM EDT
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64gr Winchester for sure.
I don't trust anything from Dynamic Technologies to be anything other than gimmick ammo. |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 10:06:36 PM EDT
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Federal 62gr Fushion MSR is good stuff! ETA: Assuming 5.56/223 It did not play 'Possum. |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 10:15:41 PM EDT
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Federal 62gr Fushion MSR is good stuff! ETA: Assuming 5.56/223 |
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Posted: 11/3/2018 6:43:12 PM EDT
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Solid copper expanding bullets (Barnes 62 TSX) or bonded soft point (Speer 62/64 Gold Dot or 62 Trophy Bonded Bear Claw) are very good on whitetail inside 200 yards. These expand reliably to about 2x caliber, break through bone, penetrate deeply, retain close to 100% of their weight, and usually leave an exit hole and wound. Most deer and pigs are dead right there. That's what you want a hunting bullet to do.
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Posted: 11/4/2018 8:45:51 AM EDT
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Solid copper expanding bullets (Barnes 62 TSX) or bonded soft point (Speer 62/64 Gold Dot or 62 Trophy Bonded Bear Claw) are very good on whitetail inside 200 yards. These expand reliably to about 2x caliber, break through bone, penetrate deeply, retain close to 100% of their weight, and usually leave an exit hole and wound. Most deer and pigs are dead right there. That's what you want a hunting bullet to do. Agree with every word in that order. But my 62gr TSX are tipped, |
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Posted: 11/4/2018 12:15:39 PM EDT
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62gr Fusions, 62gr Gold Dots and my favorite, 62gr Trophy Bonded Bear Claw (FBIT3). Choose the one that shoots best in your rifle and itll be good for 2 and 4 legged critters.
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Posted: 11/4/2018 12:37:10 PM EDT
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I’ve had excellent results with 64gr fusions
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Posted: 11/11/2018 4:33:02 PM EDT
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With the prices of AR uppers and DIY parts you have to consider an upgrade to a bigger cartridge
I have been shooting the 6.8 SPC for 13 years and it is a stupid accurate cartridge and has waaaay more kinetic energy than the 5.56. I put a Aero Precision Gamma 6.5 brake on my 16" AR Performance BBL and it is loud but the recoil is very negligible The 6.8 uses a .270 caliber bullet and it just plain is a great hunting cartridge Next is the 6.5 Grendel and it is also an awesome round The availability of cheap Wolf ammo and great Hornady ammo it is also hard to beat for longer ranges I have a 11" SBR and it is one of my favorite AR's Also I have a 16" both are Alexander Arms You also have to consider all the hunting ammo listed for the 5.56 costs the same as the 6.8 and 6.5 loads all of it costs around $1 a pop and more for copper Barnes loads You are not saving any money shooting the .223 The chances of a deer especially running off are way higher in a .223 than the 6.8 or 6.5 it's just plain physics |
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Posted: 11/11/2018 10:58:30 PM EDT
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With the prices of AR uppers and DIY parts you have to consider an upgrade to a bigger cartridge I have been shooting the 6.8 SPC for 13 years and it is a stupid accurate cartridge and has waaaay more kinetic energy than the 5.56. I put a Aero Precision Gamma 6.5 brake on my 16" AR Performance BBL and it is loud but the recoil is very negligible The 6.8 uses a .270 caliber bullet and it just plain is a great hunting cartridge Next is the 6.5 Grendel and it is also an awesome round The availability of cheap Wolf ammo and great Hornady ammo it is also hard to beat for longer ranges I have a 11" SBR and it is one of my favorite AR's Also I have a 16" both are Alexander Arms You also have to consider all the hunting ammo listed for the 5.56 costs the same as the 6.8 and 6.5 loads all of it costs around $1 a pop and more for copper Barnes loads You are not saving any money shooting the .223 The chances of a deer especially running off are way higher in a .223 than the 6.8 or 6.5 it's just plain physics |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 4:58:30 PM EDT
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Solid copper expanding bullets (Barnes 62 TSX) or bonded soft point (Speer 62/64 Gold Dot or 62 Trophy Bonded Bear Claw) are very good on whitetail inside 200 yards. These expand reliably to about 2x caliber, break through bone, penetrate deeply, retain close to 100% of their weight, and usually leave an exit hole and wound. Most deer and pigs are dead right there. That's what you want a hunting bullet to do. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 5:03:16 PM EDT
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I use 62 fusions for deer and hogs.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:33:07 PM EDT
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I have used 62 grain fusion,64gr power points,62gr gold dots,62gr Barnes tipped rounds and 75gr hornady interlocks on southern whitetail dear and hogs. All have done the job pretty dang good. Last hog hunt I grabbed the wrong ammo can and had to use black hills 77gr tipped 5.56 and it was great. I don’t think you can go wrong with any of them. Pick what shoots the best in your gun and go with it.
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Posted: 11/14/2018 12:23:34 PM EDT
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I use 62 fusions for deer and hogs. I checked Wal-Mart and the do not carry it. I'm not local to any fire arms stores. So ordering it from somewhere is my best bet. |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 4:11:14 PM EDT
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So shot placement is all that matters?
Why is it illegal to hunt with a .223 in many states? I wonder how many deer run off with somebody shooting them with a .223. How many regular deer hunters with bolt guns go shoot .223 at deer? Right So if shot placement is all that matters then we all should carry .22lr pistols and shoot for the heart I guess I should put my .45 HST's up that expand to .90" and grab the P-22 next time I go out I shot two pigs with 5.56 loads in the past One I shot the fucker three times at 50 yards in the shoulder and front chest after he stopped running and looked square at me he ran off squealing into the bushes Second one I shot running away with 75 grain Hornady TAP and I had to shoot him twice and them a close range kill shot to put him out of his misery I just shot a 120 lb sow in the ass running full blast away with my 6.8 110 BTHP Hornady and it fragged and blew two big ass holes in her somach and she dropped about 20 yards away I am absolutely certain it would have run off if I shot it with .223 You don't get goods shots when they are hauling ass in the dark so yes bigger is better |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 4:41:57 PM EDT
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So shot placement is all that matters? Why is it illegal to hunt with a .223 in many states? I wonder how many deer run off with somebody shooting them with a .223. How many regular deer hunters with bolt guns go shoot .223 at deer? Right So if shot placement is all that matters then we all should carry .22lr pistols and shoot for the heart I guess I should put my .45 HST's up that expand to .90" and grab the P-22 next time I go out I shot two pigs with 5.56 loads in the past One I shot the fucker three times at 50 yards in the shoulder and front chest after he stopped running and looked square at me he ran off squealing into the bushes Second one I shot running away with 75 grain Hornady TAP and I had to shoot him twice and them a close range kill shot to put him out of his misery I just shot a 120 lb sow in the ass running full blast away with my 6.8 110 BTHP Hornady and it fragged and blew two big ass holes in her somach and she dropped about 20 yards away I am absolutely certain it would have run off if I shot it with .223 You don't get goods shots when they are hauling ass in the dark so yes bigger is better |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 5:08:31 PM EDT
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Federal 62gr Fushion MSR is good stuff! ETA: Assuming 5.56/223 |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 7:10:21 PM EDT
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Care to recomend a place to buy it from? I checked Wal-Mart and the do not carry it. I'm not local to any fire arms stores. So ordering it from somewhere is my best bet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I use 62 fusions for deer and hogs. I checked Wal-Mart and the do not carry it. I'm not local to any fire arms stores. So ordering it from somewhere is my best bet. |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 8:55:55 AM EDT
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Best deal I found was from here;
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/656_2081_10000601/products_id/85766/Federal%20F223MSR1%20Fusion%20MSR%2020RD%2062gr%20223%20Remington/ |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 8:57:35 AM EDT
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Then go here for rebate:
https://promotions.vistaoutdoor.com/EN/US/Promo/66/67/EntryForm |
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Posted: 11/19/2018 5:38:14 PM EDT
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I'm not a fan of .223/5.56 for deer or hogs, but if I were to use it, I would use the 64 grain stuff. And, why not just buy 64 grain gold dot? Same bullet and powder as the Fusion 62 and much cheaper. Bone Frog Gun Club | Las Vegas, NV |
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Posted: 11/19/2018 6:14:07 PM EDT
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I've taken 2 deer with 75 grain Speer Gold Dots.
Both have taken about 5 steps and fallen over. Prior to using AR15's for deer hunting I used a .270 WIN and it didn't kill deer nearly as quickly as the .223. |
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Posted: 11/19/2018 6:20:50 PM EDT
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With the prices of AR uppers and DIY parts you have to consider an upgrade to a bigger cartridge I have been shooting the 6.8 SPC for 13 years and it is a stupid accurate cartridge and has waaaay more kinetic energy than the 5.56. I put a Aero Precision Gamma 6.5 brake on my 16" AR Performance BBL and it is loud but the recoil is very negligible The 6.8 uses a .270 caliber bullet and it just plain is a great hunting cartridge Next is the 6.5 Grendel and it is also an awesome round The availability of cheap Wolf ammo and great Hornady ammo it is also hard to beat for longer ranges I have a 11" SBR and it is one of my favorite AR's Also I have a 16" both are Alexander Arms You also have to consider all the hunting ammo listed for the 5.56 costs the same as the 6.8 and 6.5 loads all of it costs around $1 a pop and more for copper Barnes loads You are not saving any money shooting the .223 The chances of a deer especially running off are way higher in a .223 than the 6.8 or 6.5 it's just plain physics My favorite hunting rifle is a 12" 6.5g AR with Hornady Black |
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Posted: 11/19/2018 6:26:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except OP has a .223, and his post is asking specifically about .223 |
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Posted: 11/20/2018 8:25:46 AM EDT
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Dunno, every deer I've shot with .223 died pretty dead. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So shot placement is all that matters? Why is it illegal to hunt with a .223 in many states? I wonder how many deer run off with somebody shooting them with a .223. How many regular deer hunters with bolt guns go shoot .223 at deer? Right So if shot placement is all that matters then we all should carry .22lr pistols and shoot for the heart I guess I should put my .45 HST's up that expand to .90" and grab the P-22 next time I go out I shot two pigs with 5.56 loads in the past One I shot the fucker three times at 50 yards in the shoulder and front chest after he stopped running and looked square at me he ran off squealing into the bushes Second one I shot running away with 75 grain Hornady TAP and I had to shoot him twice and them a close range kill shot to put him out of his misery I just shot a 120 lb sow in the ass running full blast away with my 6.8 110 BTHP Hornady and it fragged and blew two big ass holes in her somach and she dropped about 20 yards away I am absolutely certain it would have run off if I shot it with .223 You don't get goods shots when they are hauling ass in the dark so yes bigger is better |
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Posted: 11/20/2018 9:10:02 PM EDT
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This. Kills deer dead. Listen, if you want to Fudd it up with a .30-30 or a .270, go for it. I sold my .270 that I used to hunt with because it was overkill. Where I hunt, 80-100 yards is a long shot, and my 300blk or .223 is more than enough. I've never had a deer go more than 25 yards before piling up. The .270 has much more recoil, is heavier, longer and less handy to carry through the woods. Not to mention that the baseball to softball sized exit wounds seemed a bit unnecessary. You do you, but don't tell people that successfully use the round to regularly take deer that it's inadequate. I used to think the bigger the better starting with a 30-30, then moving to 30-06 and up to 300 win mag. I've shot around 16 deer in the past 15 years and I have never taken a shot past 150 yards. I still hunt with a 6 pound Kimber Montana 338 Federal with a 1-4 Leupold but I only use that when I'm ground/walk hunting because it's so light (and it's an absolute hammer on deer). I've come to the idea that less is more. I can shoot my 20" 556 and keep the crosshairs right on the target after firing and the 62gr FBIT3 round is about as good as it gets for hunting IMO, although I have killed four with a 90gr Gold Dot (6.8 spc) with similar performance . The key is knowing the limitations of your rifle and chosen round, if you are aware of that and can shoot half decent the 223/556 is more than capable. |
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