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[#1]
In short what we seem to have is:
1) Proprietary Head Confirmed 2) Proprietary Body and Mounting System CLARIFIED: Body is proprietary, but mounting is industry standard 3) Proprietary Pressure Switch CONFIRMED 4) Designed to be both weapon mounted, and easily converted to handheld mode Incorrect - It is a weapon light only, but handhelds are coming soon |
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[#3]
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Will be interesting to see how this compares to the modlites. View Quote I guess we'll see next week. |
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[#4]
The light characteristics certainly look to be desirable. Modlite had apparently once made a special run of 4k PLH heads, but they had a slightly lower output of 1250 lumens and are no longer available.
I'll be waiting to see if the mounts are any good. If not, nothing a 5k PLH can't replace. Edit: From their instagram: And yes, they mount to all existing scout-pattern mounts. View Quote There is no pallet system. That was our original concept but we ditched it because it added needless complexity and was a potential failure point. View Quote The OP info is about 1.5 years old and is mostly inaccurate. View Quote |
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[#6]
Wow, info dump! Thanks for dropping that in here. I look forward to seeing the official announcement.
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[#7]
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And yes, they mount to all existing scout-pattern mounts. View Quote I just checked their Instagram and they teased what appears to be Scout compatible MLOK mounts. So the only thing we're waiting on is to see what is happening with the pressure switch, but from reading the comments it sounds like it's still implying proprietary switches. I'll update the OP with your information in the morning. |
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[#9]
Sounds like they are probably staying with unprotected flat top cells.
That’s cool. |
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[#10]
As I recall from the instagram page, the REIN will run on both protected and unprotected cells.
Cloud Defensive claims their pricing will be very competitive with Surefire, and seeing as at least the OWL has been, I do hope they're correct. |
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[#11]
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As I recall from the instagram page, the REIN will run on both protected and unprotected cells. Cloud Defensive claims their pricing will be very competitive with Surefire, and seeing as at least the OWL has been, I do hope they're correct. View Quote With the SL hlx's problems , sf df being meh and modlights $$$, I was going to get one of new arisaka 600s with the new malkoff head. |
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[#12]
1500 Lumens and 45k candela would be great.
It would be like my Modllite OKW and PLH combined into one light. |
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[#13]
In for a handheld. I was just about to drop the coin on a Modlite. Cloud Defensive claims it will be reasonably priced....
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[#14]
They claim the light, switch, mount, LCS, charger should be around $300
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[#15]
As great as the OWL is I'm sure this will be a big win for cloud defensive.
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[#17]
OTOH since the tailcap/switch assembly is modular it should be very easy to integrate it into whatever system you want. When different modules are required you can just get a small component instead of purchasing a whole unit. I like the idea. Want a TAPS? Just get the Cloud/laser model and install it right into the REIN. No plugs or adapters needed.
I'm not sure what gauge wire Surefire is using but that may be nearing the max current carrying capacity of existing switches. Some of these 18650 batteries can handle very high drains and with the energy demands of modern lights they may be saving themselves a whole lot of headache in the near future by beefing up the system. |
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[#18]
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OTOH since the tailcap/switch assembly is modular it should be very easy to integrate it into whatever system you want. When different modules are required you can just get a small component instead of purchasing a whole unit. I like the idea. Want a TAPS? Just get the Cloud/laser model and install it right into the REIN. No plugs or adapters needed. I'm not sure what gauge wire Surefire is using but that may be nearing the max current carrying capacity of existing switches. Some of these 18650 batteries can handle very high drains and with the energy demands of modern lights they may be saving themselves a whole lot of headache in the near future by beefing up the system. View Quote |
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[#19]
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OTOH since the tailcap/switch assembly is modular it should be very easy to integrate it into whatever system you want. When different modules are required you can just get a small component instead of purchasing a whole unit. I like the idea. Want a TAPS? Just get the Cloud/laser model and install it right into the REIN. No plugs or adapters needed. I'm not sure what gauge wire Surefire is using but that may be nearing the max current carrying capacity of existing switches. Some of these 18650 batteries can handle very high drains and with the energy demands of modern lights they may be saving themselves a whole lot of headache in the near future by beefing up the system. View Quote For me it's fascinating to see that photo of the REIN, with it's proprietary tailcap, paired next to a MAWL, the highest end laser on the market that uses industry standard plugs -- which the REIN made an active decision not to interface with. If someone asked me why they should get a REIN over a Modlite or OWL at this point I don't think I could answer the question even if my mothers life depended on it. |
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[#20]
I actually want to avoid tape switches and I like the rein pic shown above.
The question is do I like it more than a modality OKW? I was ready to buy an OKW on black Friday but opted to wait to see what new stuff comes out at SHOT. Seems like modlites main new draw is their little button. I'm not sure how I feel about that. Will wait on more videos to make a decision |
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[#22]
Cloud Defensive REIN. SHOT Show 2020 |
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[#23]
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[#26]
I think they said they're working on dual activation, time will tell how long and how well.
IMO the MAWL may arguably be better without a cable than with it, it's about the only IR device I probably wouldn't mind running without a remote switch. |
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[#29]
Quoted: Figures. Right when I find Modlite, now I'll be dumping them for this. The lumens of the PLH with the candela of the OKW. View Quote 58k vs 69k leaves it 11k short. Also it looks heavy as hell... the Modlite is already heavy. The OWL is stupid heavy. That looks like the heaviest head I have seen. Hit me up when you want to sell the OKW. |
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[#30]
Quoted: It does not have the candela of the OKW. 58k vs 69k leaves it 11k short. Also it looks heavy as hell... the Modlite is already heavy. The OWL is stupid heavy. That looks like the heaviest head I have seen. Hit me up when you want to sell the OKW. View Quote |
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[#31]
Quoted: It does not have the candela of the OKW. 58k vs 69k leaves it 11k short. Also it looks heavy as hell... the Modlite is already heavy. The OWL is stupid heavy. That looks like the heaviest head I have seen. Hit me up when you want to sell the OKW. View Quote |
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[#32]
Quoted: I weighed the modlite at 4.3oz including battery...is this considered "already heavy" nowadays for a rifle light? View Quote My OWL weights 11 ounces and its at the end of my SBR with a Nomad attached. Still balances perfectly and the weight doesn't matter If it was a range toy, maybe I would opt for a light with less mass. Same thing with something like a coyote gun, then I'd get the modlite anyway for maximal beam distance |
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