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Posted: 3/28/2021 1:35:59 PM EDT
If it slips while leaning against the wall and hits the floor? Have a new A2 that I was taking out of the case to put away, and I leaned it up against the wall for a second. It slipped and hit the concrete floor full force.
Nothing is obviously damaged, but looks like the thumb screws of the removable carry handle took the brunt of the force. I know firing the rifle exposes it to extreme forces, but from a different perspective. Any concern? |
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[#1]
On a Mil-Spec rifle, that shouldn't do anything except perhaps exterior finish.
combat is hard on a gun - usually on a fall, the optics are affected (electronics, Glass, Batteries) or if the rifle fell upon the working parts of the iron sight. Sounds like yours fell on the knob, which isn't like it fell top down upon the top of the rear sight. Should be No Big Dear... BIGGER_HAMMER |
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[#2]
The AR is built and designed to take far worse than falling over.
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[#3]
Doesn’t have any optics, and appears to have hit on the side and not on the A2 front sight or the top of the carry handle/rear site. Just some scrapes to the side of the carry handle and thumb screws.
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[#5]
Every scratch gives it more personality...
Don't be too upset about it - your rifle is fine. |
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[#7]
Just last night my dog knocked oner my 6721 which is leaning against the wall by the back door, it's there on coyote duty.
The rifle has a full mag and a (gasp) EoTech 512 on it. Other than scaring the dog, the rifle, the optic, and the wood floor are all still as they should be. ETA. The scout light emerged unscathed also. |
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[#9]
Its fine. Worst case scenario you might have bump the zero off.
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[#12]
Most likely no damage other than cosmetic.
The number of GIs (late 60s/early 70s) in basic training having to do pushups after the nylon sling clamp came loose and took a dive when at sling arms, at worst put an ugly mark on the flash suppressor. ...and the recruit on the DIs shit list for a few days! |
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[#13]
Fall damage is an unseen enemy. Send to me for proper disposal.
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Quoted: And the military would not be using it if it was that fragile. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The AR is built and designed to take far worse than falling over. We do this to ourselves. I can't imagine a real soldier using or getting issued an actual AR15; sure, exterior design-wise, they're nearly identical to the M4, the real differences are not obvious, like the full auto mechanics, the better barrel, etc.. but anyone reading this who didn't know better, and there are plenty of similar comments around on the 'net, would get the idea that the AR15 is in fact a military grade weapon. |
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Quoted: Not to be hyper-critical, but I feel like this is why the gun grabber crowd keeps calling ARs "weapons of war", "assault rifles", and military rifles. We do this to ourselves. I can't imagine a real soldier firing an actual AR15; sure, exterior design-wise, they're nearly identical to the M4, the real differences are not obvious, like the full auto mechanics, the better barrel, etc.. but anyone reading this who didn't know better, and there are plenty of similar comments around on the 'net, would get the idea that the AR15 is in fact a military grade weapon. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The AR is built and designed to take far worse than falling over. We do this to ourselves. I can't imagine a real soldier firing an actual AR15; sure, exterior design-wise, they're nearly identical to the M4, the real differences are not obvious, like the full auto mechanics, the better barrel, etc.. but anyone reading this who didn't know better, and there are plenty of similar comments around on the 'net, would get the idea that the AR15 is in fact a military grade weapon. edit to add: As far as barrels go, many AR15's actually have better barrels than the military uses. |
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[#18]
I wouldn't sweat it with an AR.
According to the ordinance reports, you could dent a Stg44 enough to make it not function by tipping it over just right on concrete. Maybe true, maybe just not invented here bullshit. |
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I mean I do have some "nice" rifles. That obviously I want to keep them as nice as possible. But I try to avoid any 'museum' levels of quality. That's just too much stress for me to handle, lol.
But beyond that for my AR's and 'use guns' .......I actually like some wear on my rifle, lol. |
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Quoted: Except for the select fire parts they are essentially the same rifle. View Quote I thought the barrel was also different, to be able to withstand the heat and torture of full auto fire. I saw a vid where they melted an AR15 barrel with a full auto conversion. Iraqvetern8888 I think it was ..? |
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Quoted: There must be a story here somewhere. ?? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: You should throw it down the driveway. There must be a story here somewhere. ?? Napoleon_Tannerite... Wanted to give his AR-15 the "Combat look", so he thought that throwing it up and down the driveway a few times would give it the Battlefield Pick Up look. He went into the Air Force to be a AWACs Pilot... America's "Best & Brightest..." |
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Quoted: Napoleon_Tannerite... Wanted to give his AR-15 the "Combat look", so he thought that throwing it up and down the driveway a few times would give it the Battlefield Pick Up look. He went into the Air Force to be a AWACs Pilot... America's "Best & Brightest..." View Quote |
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Quoted: I thought the barrel was also different, to be able to withstand the heat and torture of full auto fire. I saw a vid where they melted an AR15 barrel with a full auto conversion. Iraqvetern8888 I think it was ..? View Quote Barrels can be swapped between M16/M4 and most AR's. The M4A1 received a heavier barrel than the earlier M4 to increase the number of magazines that could be dumped before the barrel failed. Most AR's these days can be made full auto with a wire coat hangar in about 5 minutes. Iraqveteran8888 did a meltdown video and popped a barrel, but he was using a sub par barrel for full auto. The ones I've built for full auto use would have went many more rounds before failing. |
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This is why I keep a black Office Depot permanent marker in my cleaning box.
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Quoted: Barrels can be swapped between M16/M4 and most AR's. The M4A1 received a heavier barrel than the earlier M4 to increase the number of magazines that could be dumped before the barrel failed. Most AR's these days can be made full auto with a wire coat hangar in about 5 minutes. Iraqveteran8888 did a meltdown video and popped a barrel, but he was using a sub par barrel for full auto. The ones I've built for full auto use would have went many more rounds before failing. View Quote Gotcha, thanks. No difference in the way the receiver is cut either then I take it. |
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Quoted: Gotcha, thanks. No difference in the way the receiver is cut either then I take it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Barrels can be swapped between M16/M4 and most AR's. The M4A1 received a heavier barrel than the earlier M4 to increase the number of magazines that could be dumped before the barrel failed. Most AR's these days can be made full auto with a wire coat hangar in about 5 minutes. Iraqveteran8888 did a meltdown video and popped a barrel, but he was using a sub par barrel for full auto. The ones I've built for full auto use would have went many more rounds before failing. Gotcha, thanks. No difference in the way the receiver is cut either then I take it. Colt/FN/.mil contract components can be purchased by civilians. |
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Quoted: Gotcha, thanks. No difference in the way the receiver is cut either then I take it. View Quote Upper receivers are generally the same. Lower receivers vary. Some have full M16 pockets and just lack a single hole for the sear pin. More commonly they aren't cut as wide over the safety and require mill work before the M16 sear can fit into the lower. Both types can be converted to full auto through a swiftlink or twisted and bent coat hangar. |
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Quoted: Look like this? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/416992/EwwGzswVIAEgwwc_jpg-1883990.JPG If not, you're probably fine. View Quote I like the big orange "pay attention to me" muzzle lock just in case someone didn't notice the 30° bend in the barrel. |
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[#34]
I had a friend that thought guns were fragile, to prove a point I unloaded my Beretta and threw it about 20 feet.
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[#35]
Lol you have obviously never seen a rifle that's been through shock n vibe or jumble...
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Quoted: I like the big orange "pay attention to me" muzzle lock just in case someone didn't notice the 30° bend in the barrel. View Quote Quoted: That's a blank firing adapter and was probably on the M4 when the barrel got bent in training. View Quote ^^^^^What he said. |
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Quoted: I know this is tech but this sums it up. https://media.giphy.com/media/JrkaITZdzBJGHRX8sY/giphy.gif View Quote OMG...that’s me. ?? It’s that moment that a $1000 rifle slams onto the concrete floor. ?? |
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[#39]
It happens. Knock off the dust and drive on.
If you could have seen the pile of rifles in the back of our HMMV picked up from the arms room prior to move out during an alert.......the HORROR!!!!!!! |
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Quoted: It happens. Knock off the dust and drive on. If you could have seen the pile of rifles in the back of our HMMV picked up from the arms room prior to move out during an alert.......the HORROR!!!!!!! View Quote Saw this posted in another thread..... Attached File |
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Quoted: Saw this posted in another thread..... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/416992/7BA0CD57-63B5-44EC-8F7F-596261AED4B8_jpe-1893320.JPG View Quote Yall better have the right serial number when you’re in formation in two minutes. To sign the roster, for the training, about rosters for formations during training. Anyway, OP, your rifle is fine. If on the off chance that screwed it up, you didn’t want it anyway. The rifle I smashed hard enough to break a bayonet and a stock on a tire, shot expert on qual day. I would worry about cheap optics though. High end stuff, no sweat. |
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Quoted: Saw this posted in another thread..... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/416992/7BA0CD57-63B5-44EC-8F7F-596261AED4B8_jpe-1893320.JPG View Quote I want to roll around naked in that> |
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Quoted: Quoted: Saw this posted in another thread..... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/416992/7BA0CD57-63B5-44EC-8F7F-596261AED4B8_jpe-1893320.JPG I want to roll around naked in that> |
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[#45]
I would say the only concern about dropping the rifle would be damage to the crown/muzzle area. However, given the rifle is protected by a flash hider, it's very doubtful you'd damage this area unless you got really unlucky.
Otherwise, expensive optics or accessories would be my main concern during a drop. |
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Quoted: Not to be hyper-critical, but I feel like this is why the gun grabber crowd keeps calling ARs "weapons of war", "assault rifles", and military rifles. We do this to ourselves. I can't imagine a real soldier using or getting issued an actual AR15; sure, exterior design-wise, they're nearly identical to the M4, the real differences are not obvious, like the full auto mechanics, the better barrel, etc.. but anyone reading this who didn't know better, and there are plenty of similar comments around on the 'net, would get the idea that the AR15 is in fact a military grade weapon. View Quote First of all, weapons of war are what are protected. Second, every M4 and M16 is a type of AR15. Third, stop trying to use PC type logic. Censoring ourselves won't do shit unless we can spend tens of millions on advertisements, movies, TV, streaming shows, comedians, a few bought politicians, and athletes. |
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[#47]
No it can take it no problem. When I was in the Army I had a reel of wire about 50 pounds fall over on my M16. It broke the hand guard and I was chewed out by the armor for breaking it. We were in a Gamma Goat I believe and the driver turned sharp.
The whole wire reel on a stand knocked my weapon over and landed on top of it. |
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[#48]
To correct that damage you need to drop it from a helicopter......
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[#49]
If it got damaged from that, you don't want it anyway. Maybe you're more of an AK or SKS type person?
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