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Posted: 5/5/2020 11:24:19 AM EDT
 Can German MEN Perform Like American M193? 5.56mm MEN 55gr FMJ Gel Test Can German MEN Perform Like American M193? 5.56mm MEN 55gr FMJ Gel Test Most M193 spec ammo performs quite well. Does this MEN from Germany live up to the reputation? To find out @chopinbloc fires it from a 10.5" 1:7" twist Arfcom upper into calibrated 10% ordnance gelatin. MOAR Gel tests! Follow ARFCOM! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ar15com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/ar15com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ar15com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ar15com/ Sponsored by TNVC: https://tnvc.com |
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Posted: 5/5/2020 2:34:36 PM EDT
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Performs like 7n6. Will just stick to LC XM193.
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Posted: 5/5/2020 3:30:34 PM EDT
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It's about twice as accurate as LC XM193
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Posted: 5/5/2020 3:47:23 PM EDT
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I have a case of it I bought in 2016 I found this past weekend. Best looking factory ammo Ive ever seen. Hopefully it shoots well as I cant watch the video right now.
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Posted: 5/5/2020 4:09:06 PM EDT
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so they have reinvented swiss GP90, just 20 years later.
highly accurate, non-fragmenting, not good for self-defense.    
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Posted: 5/5/2020 4:16:07 PM EDT
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ps
https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/GP90/16-236826/#i1963589 Quoted: Terminal Ballistics on it are atrocious. I think I'd prefer to use Wolf over GP90. We have a member here that has had to use GP90 and it almost cost him his life. That was me. It's coincidental that this would be mentioned as the matter happened some years ago and was finally closed (and I can therefore discuss it) earlier this year. I had TWO, count them TWO failures to stop involving three armed aggressors in the same incident. In the more grievous of the incidents five shots of GP90 were fired from a 360mm (16") Sig551 at a range of between 20 and 15 meters. The exact order of the rounds isn't clear but was believe to be: saga continues at link above |
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Posted: 5/5/2020 5:56:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ar-jedi: ps https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/GP90/16-236826/#i1963589 Originally Posted By brouhaha: Terminal Ballistics on it are atrocious. I think I'd prefer to use Wolf over GP90. We have a member here that has had to use GP90 and it almost cost him his life. That was me. It's coincidental that this would be mentioned as the matter happened some years ago and was finally closed (and I can therefore discuss it) earlier this year. I had TWO, count them TWO failures to stop involving three armed aggressors in the same incident. In the more grievous of the incidents five shots of GP90 were fired from a 360mm (16") Sig551 at a range of between 20 and 15 meters. The exact order of the rounds isn't clear but was believe to be: saga continues at link above Yeah my stash of MEN will be regulated to range ammo, XM193 for stockpiling from here on out. |
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Posted: 5/7/2020 1:00:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: so they have reinvented swiss GP90, just 20 years later. highly accurate, non-fragmenting, not good for self-defense. http://ziva.losdos.dyndns.org/public/misc/GP90-3.jpg http://ziva.losdos.dyndns.org/public/misc/GP90-2.jpg http://ziva.losdos.dyndns.org/public/misc/GP90-1.jpg http://ziva.losdos.dyndns.org/public/misc/GP90-4.jpg we won't know that for sure until someone does 16" and 20" barrel gel shots. Lots of European countries frown on fragmenting rounds because they consider them to be 'inhumane.' Some Scandinavian countries have moved to new lead-free rounds with dual steel cores (like the NAMMO NM255) that do not frag |
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Posted: 5/7/2020 2:19:39 PM EDT
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Why incapacitate your opponent immediately when you can turn them into a human pincushion so they'll bleed out over the next 10 minutes, and die yourself in the process because your bullet wasn't sufficiently effective? We wouldn't want to deprive anyone of their final thoughts, let's give them some time to think about their life before they expire - it's the humane thing to do.
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Posted: 5/7/2020 2:20:29 PM EDT
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Interesting result, and not what I would have expected. Disclaimer, I did buy some of this in both 5.56 & 7.62, and it is damned good looking ammo. The real reason I bought it though, is because is was "made by MEN in Germany", when listed on SGA, LOL! That even my my wife laugh when I showed her. Guess it's range only for me.
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Posted: 5/7/2020 9:42:26 PM EDT
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I think there was a video where Geco 55 grain FMJ 5.56 performed very similar to MEN in gel. Like someone else mentioned some European countries frown on fragmenting ammo (Hague Convention syndrome).
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Posted: 5/8/2020 9:46:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrCrab: Interesting result, and not what I would have expected. Disclaimer, I did buy some of this in both 5.56 & 7.62, and it is damned good looking ammo. The real reason I bought it though, is because is was "made by MEN in Germany", when listed on SGA, LOL! That even my my wife laugh when I showed her. Guess it's range only for me. But doesn't the .308 MEN and DAG have a casing that fragments. I think they call it the "AB22" bullet. |
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