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Posted: 12/1/2020 3:52:56 PM EST
The C Products 20-round Duramag is a straight-bodied stainless steel magazine for 5.56 advertised with an anti-tilt follower. Anti-tilt in a straight 20? But don't straights need to tilt to be reliable?

In my case, the original aluminum 20s from Colt/NHMTG/Okay work but are very fickle with the stack of rounds staying in place and not tilting too much causing the entire stack to get stuck down and create a misfeed. The plastic tilting follower and the rough edges on the riveted internal stainless strip interact poorly. I would guess that the original aluminum followers of the past would get hung up less and maybe were the basis for the stories of reliability. Even with the metal followers, there are accounts of soldiers downloading to 18 or less for reliability.

I finally tested the Duramag and the first question was the follower. C Products figured out that some tilt but not too much was the answer. They use a shortened anti-tilt follower that does not hang up. The cartridge stack presents correctly at all round counts. Finger pressure, a bump or drop does not shift and bind the stack.

The stainless steel body is thinner than aluminum to keep weight down but without compromise in strength or rigidity. Stainless welds stronger with more consistency than aluminum. Unlike aluminum, the welds on the Duramag do not break with a firm hand squeeze. The post reinforcement is a smart addition for added shear strength.

The magazines are perfectly fabricated and lock in easily fully loaded on a closed bolt. The feed lips are resilient and seem to be heat treated. Function has been perfect. Overall excellent magazine.







Link Posted: 12/2/2020 6:34:28 PM EST
Wow! You have a problem with
Colt/NHMTG/Okay 20’s 😳.   That is a Very tuff mag pill to swallow!

H
Link Posted: 12/3/2020 9:29:39 AM EST
Odd.

In 350L I put a magpul follower in to replace the OEM. CMMG/CPD are the same mags for this caliber.

Works much better. Both feed .223 as well.
Link Posted: 12/3/2020 10:11:10 AM EST
Originally Posted By dcalloway:

>the original aluminum 20s from Colt/NHMTG/Okay work but are very fickle

>C Products

>Unlike aluminum, the welds on the Duramag do not break with a firm hand squeeze.


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Not gonna lie, this all made me laugh out loud.
Link Posted: 12/3/2020 2:41:47 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/4/2020 12:49:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By PursuitSS:
Yeah, talking about how their better than Okay Industries
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For the OP,  maybe they have been.

Not IME.
Link Posted: 12/4/2020 1:35:13 PM EST
This may be the 1st time I've ever seen anyone report that G.I. 20 rounders are unreliable and C-mags are better...



I think you might be on your own with this one.
Link Posted: 12/4/2020 2:20:23 PM EST
Weld seams breaking with a firm hand squeeze.....


Oh boy.
Link Posted: 12/4/2020 2:34:01 PM EST
Yeah, it's a lonely road...
Link Posted: 12/7/2020 11:34:35 AM EST
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Originally Posted By dcalloway:
Yeah, it's a lonely road...
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I think it's an imaginary road. My experience with 20s goes back to 1969 and neither I nor anyone I knew had the issues you describe.
Link Posted: 12/7/2020 1:59:20 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/9/2020 10:39:39 PM EST
I Knew this would blow up badly.... it Did.  Good night

H
Link Posted: 12/12/2020 7:52:25 PM EST
Apparently the guy from Small Arms Solutions has nothing but good things to say about C-Products..

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Around the 18:22 mark


Not that any one persons opinion is gospel, but he does have quite a bit of experience. I still own about 30 of the c pro mags and ALL of mine work just fine (standard aluminum, 30 rounder, 5.56, 2014-16ish manufacture..).

Then again at the 31:20 mark, he also endorses ASC... Which I don't care for...
Link Posted: 12/12/2020 8:19:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By KillerBD:
Apparently the guy from Small Arms Solutions has nothing but good things to say about C-Products..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va0XNUNAAQM

Around the 18:22 mark


Not that any one persons opinion is gospel, but he does have quite a bit of experience. I still own about 30 of the c pro mags and ALL of mine work just fine (standard aluminum, 30 rounder, 5.56, 2014-16ish manufacture..).

Then again at the 31:20 mark, he also endorses ASC... Which I don't care for...
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New CPro or old, after the shit show that my dozen produced I'll never look that direction again.
Link Posted: 12/12/2020 8:51:03 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/12/2020 10:01:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/12/2020 10:02:00 PM EST by JoshNC]
Problems with Colt/NHTMG/Okay mags. Hahahahaha. That’s a good one.

C Products is garbage. I almost stocked up on a ton of them back when they were first released. Thank goodness I did not.
Link Posted: 1/16/2021 12:04:05 PM EST
When did all the hate for C Products mags begin? I remember when they were all the rage around here & arfcom had group buys for them. I still have a few of their stainless mags from back then and never had a problem with them. I recently bought a couple of 5 round C Products Duramags for use in a RAR bolt gun and they are very well made and work perfectly.
Link Posted: 1/16/2021 12:11:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ElrodCod:
When did all the hate for C Products mags begin? I remember when they were all the rage around here & arfcom had group buys for them. I still have a few of their stainless mags from back then and never had a problem with them. I recently bought a couple of 5 round C Products Duramags for use in a RAR bolt gun and they are very well made and work perfectly.
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Around 2008, for me. I bought some, they were total trash, and the customer service was right there with them. I have not tried them again, because there are so many other excellent options.
Link Posted: 1/16/2021 1:09:41 PM EST
My experience with C Prod. involved many instances of the bullet getting pushed back when the round would catch on the front lip of the magazines.  Since I don't need a kaboomed rifle I won't give them another chance...

Paladin
Link Posted: 1/16/2021 3:49:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By PursuitSS:


You can find MANY threads about this subject.

Most if not all of the Panka’s are permanently banned from the site!

Larry Jr is still in Club Fed as far as I know for trying to trade guns for coke.

It turned into a total shit show, shilling, lying, QA/QC issues.

Just say NO!
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I wanted to say I dealt with him. He never missed a opportunity to inform me he was a Veteran and on and on like any of that made my non-functional mags work or something.
Link Posted: 1/17/2021 9:02:35 AM EST
C Products now is not the C Products of the past, correct?

Just wanted to bring light to an improvement of an old design.

I would say buy a few and try but it is too late for that.

Link Posted: 1/17/2021 9:15:47 AM EST
Thanks for the review OP
Link Posted: 1/17/2021 12:38:15 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/17/2021 4:05:07 PM EST
I was with the review up until he mentioned breaking quality USGI magazine welds with a firm hand squeeze...
Link Posted: 1/17/2021 4:38:41 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/19/2021 4:01:34 PM EST
To be fair, some lay people can legit close the CoC #3.5 grippers, and if you're a normal human being and have ever tried these, it will wreck you to consider what a #3.5 takes for hand strength to close. Maybe OP be like that?

Link Posted: 1/20/2021 10:27:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/20/2021 11:16:25 PM EST by dcalloway]
Take a few of your aluminum GI mags, remove the spring and follower and then give them a squeeze. Not every spot weld is equal and at least one will fail. Sure, the follower is out and allows the body to collapse but the same failure happens in the opposite direction when a loaded mag is dropped.

Over the years I have tested the following Al GI mags, all with similar results:

Okay
Adventure Line
NHMTG
Brownells (this one is for you Blain)
D&H

Stainless steel, done correctly, offers improvements in this application.

Just trying to point out an innovative product.

Carry on with the insults...
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