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Posted: 2/27/2020 7:40:30 PM EDT
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Dunno about Brownells but brother Okay Surefeeds are good to go hands down. I use the 30 round dry film lube.
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Posted: 2/27/2020 7:54:46 PM EDT
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Pick your poison. Okay (not E2), D&H, Brownells. With magoul followers, all good to go.
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Posted: 2/27/2020 9:10:19 PM EDT
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Both solid. Never had an issue with either.
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Posted: 2/27/2020 11:01:42 PM EDT
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I would rather have Surefeeds, no specific reason. The 20 round mags are a little different fron Okays if I remember right. I don't have any 30 round Brownells.
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Posted: 2/28/2020 4:41:30 PM EDT
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To me the Okays seem to be a little higher quality. But if they both work they both work.
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Posted: 2/28/2020 6:51:47 PM EDT
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LGS had Okay Industries mags for $9.99, they have the old tan follower but at that price i bought an arm full.
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Posted: 2/28/2020 7:16:58 PM EDT
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LGS had Okay Industries mags for $9.99, they have the old tan follower but at that price i bought an arm full. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 7:43:38 PM EDT
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LGS had Okay Industries mags for $9.99, they have the old tan follower but at that price i bought an arm full. Which I promptly loaded, and now my thumb hurts, I think I bruised it... |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 7:45:04 PM EDT
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Watching the EE, I’ve purchased MANY Okay Industries magazines for less than $8.00. Many times they’re listed as “Used” and when I get them the ONLY wear is from where Okay uses their insertion gauge.
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Posted: 2/28/2020 9:54:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They also had a G17 33rnd mag... Which I promptly loaded, and now my thumb hurts, I think I bruised it... |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 9:57:27 PM EDT
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Watching the EE, I’ve purchased MANY Okay Industries magazines for less than $8.00. Many times they’re listed as “Used” and when I get them the ONLY wear is from where Okay uses their insertion gauge. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 10:02:51 PM EDT
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Yeah, thumb busters. 
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Posted: 2/28/2020 10:25:11 PM EDT
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Those days are past. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Watching the EE, I’ve purchased MANY Okay Industries magazines for less than $8.00. Many times they’re listed as “Used” and when I get them the ONLY wear is from where Okay uses their insertion gauge. I like Pmags and think they're a damn good mag, but have a fair stash of tan follower mags and commercial aluminum mags too. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 10:39:11 PM EDT
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Definition of a “thumb buster”
9mm Sten Gun magazine. I DEFY anyone to load one to capacity (32 rounds) without using a loading tool. |
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Posted: 2/29/2020 6:12:53 AM EDT
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Yeah, loading a G18 mag is a sure way to elicit "damn, where'd I put that mag loader that came with the gun...?" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, thumb busters. |
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Posted: 2/29/2020 7:44:06 PM EDT
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I rolled the dice against my better judgment and ordered 20 Surefeed mags for $9.99 each from Botach. To my complete surprise I got a tracking number early next day and is already due to arrive by Monday.
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Posted: 3/1/2020 11:26:49 AM EDT
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I rolled the dice against my better judgment and ordered 20 Surefeed mags for $9.99 each from Botach. To my complete surprise I got a tracking number early next day and is already due to arrive by Monday. I also just received from Weapon Outfitters yesterday, 12 Okay dry film 20s for $11.99 a piece, they also shipped to me in about three days and the packing job was was good. |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 9:07:55 AM EDT
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Have both and both work 100% but the SureFeeds are my favorites, no contest.
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Posted: 3/3/2020 9:51:02 AM EDT
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Pick your poison. Okay (not E2), D&H, Brownells. With magoul followers, all good to go. |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 11:29:20 AM EDT
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Why not E2? I don’t know much about surefeeds. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pick your poison. Okay (not E2), D&H, Brownells. With magoul followers, all good to go. Take away what you will. |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 1:39:53 PM EDT
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Pick your poison. Okay (not E2), D&H, Brownells. With magoul followers, all good to go. Take away what you will. 
I do think the issues with them have been blown out of proportion, but really why take the risk since they don't seem to do anything better than the standard Okay mags. That's why I just bought 12 more of their standard 30s and 12 more of their 20s. And as always, I get them in the dry moly finish because I'm just too cool for the newer Teflon black and tan finishes. 
I actually prefer the grey Teflon finish that D&H has always used compared to dry moly, though I prefer Oaky's mags over D&H's. 
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Posted: 3/3/2020 1:47:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I actually want to by 12 of the newer E2s to compare them to my older ones I got last year to see if there are any differences visually.
I do think the issues with them have been blown out of proportion, but really why take the risk since they don't seem to do anything better than the standard Okay mags. That's why I just bought 12 more of their standard 30s and 12 more of their 20s. And as always, I get them in the dry moly finish because I'm just too cool for the newer Teflon black and tan finishes.
I actually prefer the grey Teflon finish that D&H has always used compared to dry moly, though I prefer Oaky's mags over D&H's. Too early to even comment on them. |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 1:56:50 PM EDT
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I picked up 2 to try. Too early to even comment on them.
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Posted: 3/3/2020 2:03:56 PM EDT
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Pick your poison. Okay (not E2), D&H, Brownells. With magoul followers, all good to go. Take away what you will. |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 8:22:36 PM EDT
[#25]
They both have performed equally well for me.
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Posted: 3/10/2020 11:51:46 AM EDT
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Definition of a “thumb buster” 9mm Sten Gun magazine. I DEFY anyone to load one to capacity (32 rounds) without using a loading tool. But you are correct about the STEN mags. I have NEVER been able to load one of those to even close to capacity without a loading tool. Matter of fact it's the only mag loading tool that I ever use! |
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Posted: 3/11/2020 10:33:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I load Glock 17 and 19 mags easily and never use a loader even on 8 hour range days. I help the ladies top off their mags too when I finish with mine. The 33 round G18 mags aren't that bad for me. I load UZI and Colt 9mm 32 round mags and only need to bump the last few on the bench to get them to full capacity. But you are correct about the STEN mags. I have NEVER been able to load one of those to even close to capacity without a loading tool. Matter of fact it's the only mag loading tool that I ever use! No lie/no shame.
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Posted: 3/14/2020 12:33:17 PM EDT
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I haven't used my E2s extensively but the few I have work well.
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Posted: 3/14/2020 2:51:20 PM EDT
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I’ve only put a whopping 30 rounds through 1 E2 mag but it worked fine. I know super scientific right?
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Posted: 3/18/2020 1:16:31 PM EDT
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Is okay industries currently making the new production USGI magazines for Brownells?
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Posted: 3/18/2020 2:10:24 PM EDT
[#31]
The issued IR/white light I was issued and got to keep from 2010 aside, surefire can kiss my butt.
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Posted: 3/25/2020 2:56:02 AM EDT
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I can get to about 20 before it becomes impossible for my STEN mags.
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Posted: 3/25/2020 9:20:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is okay industries currently making the new production USGI magazines for Brownells? No. They never did. C-Products did before Brownells got a contract. As far as I know, Brownells is still making their own mags but are no longer producing for the military. |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 8:27:03 AM EDT
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Well this only applies to 20s which is all I own in Brownells & Surefeeds but the only differences I see are:
The bottom plate retention tab on the Surefeeds. Brownells have a std. flat plate. Never had an issue with a bottom plate coming loose so not sure if that’s a plus, definitely easier to disassemble a Brownells with no tools. I don’t think the retention tab would prevent using something like a ranger plate, and if it broke the plate would still be retained by friction like Brownells. Feed lips on the Brownells extend all the way to the rear corners like 30s. Surefeeds do not, like old school GI 20s. The Brownells are much older than Surefeeds so can’t comment on durability but they all work fine with 5.56, .300bo and 5.45x39. When I bought my Brownells they were available in either stainless steel or chrome silicon springs. |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 9:00:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well this only applies to 20s which is all I own in Brownells & Surefeeds but the only differences I see are: The bottom plate retention tab on the Surefeeds. Brownells have a std. flat plate. Never had an issue with a bottom plate coming loose so not sure if that’s a plus, definitely easier to disassemble a Brownells with no tools. I don’t think the retention tab would prevent using something like a ranger plate, and if it broke the plate would still be retained by friction like Brownells. Feed lips on the Brownells extend all the way to the rear corners like 30s. Surefeeds do not, like old school GI 20s. The Brownells are much older than Surefeeds so can’t comment on durability but they all work fine with 5.56, .300bo and 5.45x39. When I bought my Brownells they were available in either stainless steel or chrome silicon springs. Aren't the SS springs the military standard? |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 1:56:34 PM EDT
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I’ve had some with the chrome silicon springs. They must have a preservation rusting quality to them like some light poles do. The stainless springs are prettier. ??
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Posted: 4/16/2020 12:12:41 AM EDT
[#37]
The E2 mags have herpes
The Standard Surefeed mags are by far my favorite aluminum mags. I bought a bunch from Botach last year and after they arrived a few months later, I’ve been using them exclusively and giving the PMags a break. No issues at all. |
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Posted: 4/18/2020 7:31:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Aren't the SS springs the military standard? Not sure, but it’s been discussed that chrome silicon may have a longer service life over stainless steel. I’ve used Brownells 20s with both type springs with corrosive ammo and stainless is much more rust resistant. |
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Posted: 4/18/2020 9:01:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Aren't the SS springs the military standard? Spec is SS type 63 (17-7 PH) cold drawn wire. |
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Posted: 4/18/2020 11:35:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Both solid. Never had an issue with either. |
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