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Posted: 12/24/2020 12:02:49 PM EST
What type of bullets for reloading would perform well as clones of some barrier blind Ammo? I know bonded bullets are supposed to work but what about copper rounds like barnes or Hornady gmx?
Link Posted: 12/24/2020 5:21:06 PM EST
TBBC is the king, in my humble opinion. I have it loaded behind cfe223, I think it's 27gr but don't quote me on that and know it's beyond book max charge, so normal disclaimers apply. It matches factory m855 velocity from my 10"

Monolithics tend to do well through barriers. TSX is a great bullet in all .224 weights. The optimized 50gr bullet is a hammer when it comes to defeating barriers but I don't believe the bullet is sold for reloading. The 62gr and 70gr pills are available as components and are GTG, albeit expensive.
Link Posted: 12/24/2020 5:38:43 PM EST
I had a bunch of 62gr Fusion over run bullets I got from RMR years ago. Still have a bunch and a bunch loaded and squirreled away.
Link Posted: 12/24/2020 11:51:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 135Patriots:
TBBC is the king, in my humble opinion. I have it loaded behind cfe223, I think it's 27gr but don't quote me on that and know it's beyond book max charge, so normal disclaimers apply. It matches factory m855 velocity from my 10"

Monolithics tend to do well through barriers. TSX is a great bullet in all .224 weights. The optimized 50gr bullet is a hammer when it comes to defeating barriers but I don't believe the bullet is sold for reloading. The 62gr and 70gr pills are available as components and are GTG, albeit expensive.
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The Barnes .224 TSX is available for reloaders in: 45, 50, 53, 55, 62, & 70 grain weights

The Barnes .224 TTSX is available for reloaders in: 50, 55, & 62 grain weights

Now whether you can actually find anything in stock right now is a whole nother issue, but Barnes does make the stuff.  At least they did, with the sale of the company to Sierra, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Link Posted: 12/25/2020 3:32:06 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/25/2020 3:32:43 AM EST by Glock63]
70 grain barnes tsx pushed by 25.2 grains of ramshot tac lit by a cci 450 primer in winchester brass gives me 2860 fps out of a 16 inch carbine. Pretty tough to beat imo.  Standard deviation on a 10 shot string was 13, and 1.5 moa accuracy.
Link Posted: 12/25/2020 2:36:33 PM EST
I use federal trophy bonded bear claw in my7mm-08. It’s a pretty hard bullet on deer.
Link Posted: 12/25/2020 8:59:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/25/2020 9:06:15 PM EST by UnaStamus]
Any bullet that is commercially available and used by a manufacturer as a barrier blind bullet can be loaded into a similar load.  The one thing you will have trouble duplicating with a factory duty/defense barrier blind load is the low/no flash powder the factories typically use.  Besides that, you can generally replicate the performance of factory loads so long as you’re getting the same MV.
Bullets to use are the Federal Trophy Bonded Bear Claw (TBBC), Fusion JSP, Terminal Ascent, Edge TLR
Barnes TSX and TTSX
Hornady GMX
Nosler AccuBond and AccuBond Long Range
Etc.

Basically anything that is bonded or copper monolith (all copper)
Link Posted: 12/26/2020 12:03:28 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/26/2020 12:04:28 AM EST by Blammer]
any AP rounds should work. :)



22 cal ap rounds for sale
Link Posted: 12/26/2020 9:53:19 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Glock63:
70 grain barnes tsx pushed by 25.2 grains of ramshot tac lit by a cci 450 primer in winchester brass gives me 2860 fps out of a 16 inch carbine. Pretty tough to beat imo.  Standard deviation on a 10 shot string was 13, and 1.5 moa accuracy.
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I run nearly the exact same load with the 70 grain tsx, I’m just at 25.0 grains of Tac. Very accurate load.

Link Posted: 12/26/2020 12:53:11 PM EST
Speer Gold Dot...same bullet type as Fusion.
Link Posted: 12/26/2020 6:44:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Dirtymoe21:



I run nearly the exact same load with the 70 grain tsx, I’m just at 25.0 grains of Tac. Very accurate load.

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Have you tried cfe223 powder? That’s what I’ve been able to get a hold of. I’m just starting off in reloading.
Link Posted: 12/26/2020 6:54:34 PM EST
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Have you tried cfe223 powder? That’s what I’ve been able to get a hold of. I’m just starting off in reloading.
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I've personally never used cfe, as I stocked up on tac a long time ago. Ive heard good things about it, and it should be a good match for mid and heavier bullets in 5.56.
Link Posted: 12/26/2020 6:54:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/26/2020 6:55:42 PM EST by 135Patriots]
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Originally Posted By TBone556:


Have you tried cfe223 powder? That's what I've been able to get a hold of. I'm just starting off in reloading.
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Good powder; I use that or TAC for all my 223/556 loads. Cfe burns a bit slow so you need to give it a healthy charge in a short barrel to get velocity up to full-power levels, but it's totally doable if you ladder up safely. It's a great powder for the heavy stuff, though you can 100% use it behind 55gr.

The TBBC handloads I use for HD have cfe behind them. No qualms with the powder.
Link Posted: 12/26/2020 9:15:50 PM EST
Bonded, solid, A-Frame. The old tech Partition 60gr or most Aframe styles will work well.
Link Posted: 1/3/2021 11:50:14 AM EST
I picked up 4K of some TBBC 62 grains (the one with a T).

Makes a badass reload
Link Posted: 1/4/2021 8:23:35 PM EST
7.62x51 fmj steel jacket doesn't care much about barriers.

Link Posted: 1/6/2021 10:09:54 PM EST
This is very true
Link Posted: 1/9/2021 12:44:29 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/10/2021 12:40:29 AM EST
Mk318 mod 0 and mod1 pulls
25gr cfe223
Wsr or cci 41primers
Is what I load up


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