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Posted: 11/11/2019 8:04:40 PM EDT
[#1]
Excellent in my book. Does not readily absorb dirt and stays put during use. I've used it for a few years. Primarily on AR trigger group contact points, and the rails on all my handguns.
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Posted: 11/11/2019 9:40:53 PM EDT
[#2]
I use it and do not see any issues.
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Posted: 11/11/2019 9:55:40 PM EDT
[#3]
I have it and it is good grease. I doubt anyone will chime in who does not think it is GTG for the intended purpose.
Also, If you have not tried Slip2000 EWL check it out. For a lube EWL is GTG. |
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Posted: 11/14/2019 3:02:35 PM EDT
[#4]
Expensive.
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Posted: 11/15/2019 11:34:56 PM EDT
[#5]
Tony Kidd had good things to say about it so I tried it. He was right it really is good stuff. Use it sparingly for best results and Yes, its worth what it costs.
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Posted: 11/21/2019 11:48:36 PM EDT
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New to the AR platform, have a similar thread on MC products as my research pointed to it as the one too. Military issues it I am told but reality is many products likely will work with civilian use and cleaning regiment. A CLP came w the cleaning kit I bought, tried it, felt greasy after a few days so went for the full MC program. Interesting, even applied heavy after a few days gets a dry patina to it, the dust resistance people mentioned... It is expensive but I don't use all that much so not an issue. The grease is for the inside areas, the oil outside and cleaner for prep. They have a full mil spec how to on thickness doc, helpful IMO. Happy w all three products thus far... Seems many who use it or have used it for years say the same but like Ford, Chevy, Dodge, all good!
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Posted: 11/26/2019 5:04:35 PM EDT
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It's like Frank's Hot Sauce. I use it on everything!
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Posted: 12/1/2019 11:44:10 PM EDT
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It's like Frank's Hot Sauce. I use it on everything! |
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Posted: 12/3/2019 11:11:55 PM EDT
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Its good to go but use it sparingly or you are just wasting it. Does not take much, i spread it with a small paint brush to make a little go a long way.
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Posted: 12/4/2019 10:53:59 PM EDT
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Its good to go but use it sparingly or you are just wasting it. Does not take much, i spread it with a small paint brush to make a little go a long way. |
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Posted: 12/19/2019 5:20:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/24/2019 9:44:37 PM EDT
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TW25b is good to go. However, TW25b is expensive.
So for me, I use it during the coldest parts of the winter. Outside of that, I use synthetic wheel bearing grease the rest of the year. |
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Posted: 12/30/2019 1:03:52 AM EDT
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TW25b is good to go. However, TW25b is expensive. So for me, I use it during the coldest parts of the winter. Outside of that, I use synthetic wheel bearing grease the rest of the year. |
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Posted: 1/16/2020 5:48:55 PM EDT
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Ive used it all over the world. It works.
If you need a very thick oil...it is a very thick oil. If you need an actual grease (like wheel bearing grease)...it is not that. It was designed for applications where wash out resistance mattered but viscosity needed to be lower. Think...50 cal machineguns in the surf...and it works very well for this. It was not designed to replace actual grease for applications where you need max pressure resistance like you would for bearings and similar. Frankly...it has limited utility on ARs. I've run it a bit on them and, while it works, it's not optimal. EWL in quantity on the BCG will keep an AR running longer than anything I have ever used, even suppressed. |
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Posted: 1/16/2020 11:52:36 PM EDT
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We use it on our machine guns on fighter airplanes on not much is needed, we go from high altitude to low quickly in all weather and we have had no malfunctions. You only use a very small amount so if you slobber it on your pissing away money.
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Posted: 1/26/2020 10:03:05 PM EDT
[#16]
Been using it for years.Absolutely love it!
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Posted: 1/27/2020 2:31:06 AM EDT
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For AR’s and other small arms, I like the MC3000 and the MC2500.
MC2500 is mainly what I use these days and a little goes a very long way. |
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Posted: 1/27/2020 2:42:36 AM EDT
[#18]
Good grease. Stinky. But good.
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Posted: 1/27/2020 2:46:12 AM EDT
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I switched from Tetra to TW, and it works great.
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Posted: 1/31/2020 12:12:37 AM EDT
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Ive used it all over the world. It works. If you need a very thick oil...it is a very thick oil. If you need an actual grease (like wheel bearing grease)...it is not that. It was designed for applications where wash out resistance mattered but viscosity needed to be lower. Think...50 cal machineguns in the surf...and it works very well for this. It was not designed to replace actual grease for applications where you need max pressure resistance like you would for bearings and similar. Frankly...it has limited utility on ARs. I've run it a bit on them and, while it works, it's not optimal. EWL in quantity on the BCG will keep an AR running longer than anything I have ever used, even suppressed. |
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Posted: 1/31/2020 10:31:19 AM EDT
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Makes total sense, almost adhesive in nature, seems to work well on my AR, applied as prescribed, but I don't have the experience you do so can't really comment on extreme duty. Why do you prefer EWL, lasts longer? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ive used it all over the world. It works. If you need a very thick oil...it is a very thick oil. If you need an actual grease (like wheel bearing grease)...it is not that. It was designed for applications where wash out resistance mattered but viscosity needed to be lower. Think...50 cal machineguns in the surf...and it works very well for this. It was not designed to replace actual grease for applications where you need max pressure resistance like you would for bearings and similar. Frankly...it has limited utility on ARs. I've run it a bit on them and, while it works, it's not optimal. EWL in quantity on the BCG will keep an AR running longer than anything I have ever used, even suppressed. I think ARs tend to run better with a lube like CLP, EWL, or motor oil. YMMV |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 8:36:49 PM EDT
[#22]
It's essentially a Teflon paste. Very high amount of PTFE.
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Posted: 2/9/2020 3:02:00 PM EDT
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TW25B is great stuff. I’ve starting using Lucas Red “N” Tacky on all my firearms.
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Posted: 2/14/2020 12:34:27 AM EDT
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It’s pretty good. I ran it for awhile before switching to Cherrybalmz...which I feel is the better option. I’m not a fan of the Teflon so that rules out TW25B.
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Posted: 2/19/2020 5:59:47 PM EDT
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I used to use it and liked it well enough, but it separates and you can't get it back into solution, so I switched to Slip 2000.
I miss that Teflon smell. 
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Posted: 2/23/2020 10:38:50 PM EDT
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I used to use it and liked it well enough, but it separates and you can't get it back into solution, so I switched to Slip 2000. I miss that Teflon smell. |
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Posted: 2/25/2020 1:10:59 AM EDT
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I use it for my 1911s. Works perfectly.
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Posted: 2/25/2020 1:30:19 AM EDT
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I used to use it and liked it well enough, but it separates and you can't get it back into solution, so I switched to Slip 2000. I miss that Teflon smell. TW-25B is the lubricant used on all USN/USMC aircraft guns. M240 7.62, GAU-17 Minigun, GAU-21 .50 cal, ( and the GAU-16/XM-218 before it), M197 20mm (AH-1 and the Navy's FF 20mm - whatever it's called) M61 20mm (F/A-18) GAU-12 25mm. I don't know if its the right lube for an AR, but it works well on aircraft guns. |
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Posted: 2/29/2020 11:23:43 PM EDT
[#29]
Is there much difference between TW25B and LSAT?
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Posted: 3/4/2020 8:16:19 PM EDT
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Is there much difference between TW25B and LSAT? |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 10:18:48 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know but I think LSAT is 75% LSA and 25% Teflon. IIRC, LSA was made specifically for the M16 back in the day. If I'm worong about any of this, hopefully someone else will chime in. TW25B is what I use for that now for years. AR's, Glocks, Sig, double action and single action revolvers, bolt and lever actions, everything. I even use it on folding knives. |
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Posted: 3/6/2020 4:14:23 AM EDT
[#32]
LSAT is specked for the Mk 19 grande launcher and is much thicker than regular LSA.
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Posted: 3/8/2020 2:17:56 AM EDT
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You can mix it with isopropyl alcohol and get it as thin as you'd like. TW-25B is the lubricant used on all USN/USMC aircraft guns. M240 7.62, GAU-17 Minigun, GAU-21 .50 cal, ( and the GAU-16/XM-218 before it), M197 20mm (AH-1 and the Navy's FF 20mm - whatever it's called) M61 20mm (F/A-18) GAU-12 25mm. I don't know if its the right lube for an AR, but it works well on aircraft guns. IMHO, the only part on an AR that might benefit from grease is the cam pin. Beyond that, everything is better served by using oil. |
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Posted: 3/8/2020 8:12:43 PM EDT
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That's really the crux of the matter. IMHO, the only part on an AR that might benefit from grease is the cam pin. Beyond that, everything is better served by using oil. Oil tends to run or evaporate. I can put an AR lubed with a thin coat of light grease in the safe and take it out 10 years from now and it will be lubed exactly as it was when I put it in. It will be in ready to rock condition without me having to screw around with it and add lube to it. Can you say the same of an AR lubed with oil? |
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Posted: 3/8/2020 10:39:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: USMC M16A1 in the late 70's we were issued two olive drab plastic bottles. One was indeed LSA, to lubricate when we were done cleaning with the other bottle of oil/solvent. TW25B is what I use for that now for years. AR's, Glocks, Sig, double action and single action revolvers, bolt and lever actions, everything. I even use it on folding knives. |
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Posted: 3/8/2020 11:32:19 PM EDT
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Couldn't disagree more. Oil tends to run or evaporate. I can put an AR lubed with a thin coat of light grease in the safe and take it out 10 years from now and it will be lubed exactly as it was when I put it in. It will be in ready to rock condition without me having to screw around with it and add lube to it. Can you say the same of an AR lubed with oil? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's really the crux of the matter. IMHO, the only part on an AR that might benefit from grease is the cam pin. Beyond that, everything is better served by using oil. Oil tends to run or evaporate. I can put an AR lubed with a thin coat of light grease in the safe and take it out 10 years from now and it will be lubed exactly as it was when I put it in. It will be in ready to rock condition without me having to screw around with it and add lube to it. Can you say the same of an AR lubed with oil? IN USE, the cam pin is really the only part that may actually benefit from a small/very thin amount of grease being applied to it. Everything else is better off with oil. Beyond that, per your scenario, I wouldn't store an AR for 10 years and then pull it out and shoot it without inspecting it first anyway. If it needed oil at that point, then it could be oiled. |
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Posted: 3/9/2020 6:00:30 PM EDT
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Oil is high maintenance. Light grease stays put and is superior. That's my opinion after using oil for years and now using light grease. (Slip EWG, TW25B or Super Lube NLGI 00)
One area where oil is nice is if you are doing a lot of shooting and want to give a quick bit of extra lube to it. Oil is easier to apply. But that can even be applied over grease, so its not a reason to start out with the inferior lubricant. What kind of problems have you personally seen with light grease such as those listed above on the BCG? "Get Some Damn Grease" - Bruce Gray ETA: At the end of the day we're both lubing with something and that puts us way ahead of all those folks that totally don't get that things need lube! |
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Posted: 3/9/2020 7:11:52 PM EDT
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Oil is high maintenance. Light grease stays put and is superior. That's my opinion after using oil for years and now using light grease. (Slip EWG, TW25B or Super Lube NLGI 00) One area where oil is nice is if you are doing a lot of shooting and want to give a quick bit of extra lube to it. Oil is easier to apply. But that can even be applied over grease, so its not a reason to start out with the inferior lubricant. What kind of problems have you personally seen with light grease such as those listed above on the BCG? "Get Some Damn Grease" - Bruce Gray ETA: At the end of the day we're both lubing with something and that puts us way ahead of all those folks that totally don't get that things need lube! From an archived thread: https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/-/118-297701/?page=1 How NOT to lube an AR - pics Quoted: "A customer dropped off on upper today for some work, and I couldnt help but notice the stuff oozing out from the receiver. Folks, grease has NO PLACE on an AR... { snip } Since I'm already on my soap box, here's how I lube ALL my ARs. I have a remoil bottle I keep refilling with mobil-1 synthetic 30w motor oil. One drop on the top of the charging handle One drop on the gas rings One drop on the body of the bolt One drop on the cam pin One drop on the firing pin Two drops on the bottom rail of the carrier Two drops on the top of the carrier Thats it. Thats all I ever use, whether I'm plinking at the range for a few minutes, or an all day carbine class. 99% of my shooting any more is suppressed, and that is still all the lube I have ever needed. I dont lube in the receiver, I dont lube my buffer/spring." |
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Posted: 3/9/2020 7:22:07 PM EDT
[#39]
I think I missed what problems you've experienced with a light application of a light grease.
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Posted: 3/9/2020 7:43:50 PM EDT
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I think I missed what problems you've experienced with a light application of a light grease. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I think I missed what problems you've experienced with a light application of a light grease. Quoted:
IMHO, the only part on an AR that might benefit from grease is the cam pin. Beyond that, everything is better served by using oil. |
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Posted: 3/9/2020 8:11:21 PM EDT
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I don't have problems, because I don't use grease anywhere other than the cam pin. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think I missed what problems you've experienced with a light application of a light grease. Quoted:
IMHO, the only part on an AR that might benefit from grease is the cam pin. Beyond that, everything is better served by using oil. Thank you. |
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Posted: 3/9/2020 11:09:05 PM EDT
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MilComm and Slip EWG,Mobil 1....
Are excellent AR lubricants I am presently using Slip EWG on everything- bolt, bolt rings, CP, BC bearing surfaces. I can go 600 rounds with 150 round mag dumps full auto over 90-120 minutes, giving time for cooling, without any hiccups and easily finish up 1K rounds. I like the fact that after cleaning, lubing and storing the AR muzzle up, all the lube doesn't end up in the extension. |
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Posted: 3/21/2020 10:58:38 PM EDT
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It is a great product. But, another great grease is Militech1. If I'm going to grease something on a gun, that's what I use. It also just happens to be the best all-purpose grease I've seen but I save it for the special stuff like bicycle bearings, etc.
I liked the comment on TW25B about using it on aircraft machine guns. You can imagine a plane at high altitude with guns at 0 degrees F suddenly diving to tropical conditions at a height 1000 ft with moisture condensing in the works of the guns - and they have to work. It definitely is good stuff. |
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Posted: 4/14/2020 6:19:49 PM EDT
[#44]
Great for pistol slide rails, minty smell to boot...
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Posted: 4/18/2020 11:45:56 AM EDT
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TW25 used to be my go to. Now I use EWL30.
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