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Posted: 5/13/2020 11:24:08 PM EDT
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Yes
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Posted: 5/14/2020 12:03:19 AM EDT
[#2]
No, OP. It's a boutique cartridge... Just like 6.5 Grendel...
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Posted: 5/14/2020 12:38:30 AM EDT
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You don't own a .30 cal suppressor do you op?
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Posted: 5/14/2020 12:44:48 AM EDT
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My 8" with an omega is my bedside gun with either a g19 or hellcat
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Posted: 5/14/2020 12:47:58 AM EDT
[#5]
Yeah, I'm good on 300BO. It's a cool round to shoot subs out of a very short barrel and has better ballistics than PCCs - so it has a use case. But if I want a rifle round, i'll reach for 5.56 every time over 300. A 10" 5.56 is plenty handy enough.
In before "but energy" gets thrown around a bunch 
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Posted: 5/14/2020 12:48:13 AM EDT
[#6]
Just build an upper...
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Posted: 5/14/2020 1:08:00 AM EDT
[#7]
My bedside companion is feeling slighted now.
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Posted: 5/14/2020 2:42:12 AM EDT
[#8]
It’s not the cost of the AR that stops me it’s ammo.
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Posted: 5/14/2020 2:48:58 AM EDT
[#9]
FPNI
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Posted: 5/14/2020 3:15:55 AM EDT
[#10]
No. I don't and won't.
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Posted: 5/14/2020 3:19:01 AM EDT
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Not interested myself
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Posted: 5/14/2020 3:52:04 AM EDT
[#12]
I bought an upper during the shutdown and its built on a rise armament lower, from broken arrow, oklahoma
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Posted: 5/14/2020 6:43:28 AM EDT
[#13]
I agree, never really got my attention. I have been looking at a 30 cal can so that could spark some interest further down the line. I don’t see the point if you aren’t Suppressing the gun.
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Posted: 5/14/2020 6:48:43 AM EDT
[#14]
Built one SBR, it was enough to scratch the itch.
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Posted: 5/14/2020 6:53:41 AM EDT
[#15]
Meh, I thought it was a marketing gimmick when it came out, I quickly saw its merits, but I still have zero interest.
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Posted: 5/14/2020 6:59:23 AM EDT
[#16]
Topic Moved
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Posted: 5/14/2020 7:31:55 AM EDT
[#17]
Legal for hunting anything in my state (5.56 is not), and built as a pistol, is legal to carry loaded in a vehicle, which a rifle is not.
The 300 Ham'r is slightly better at the same barrel length (that being 8.5"), and would likely be my choice today. My purpose is exceptionally niche, but I'm glad it's an option. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 7:35:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Currahee: Not interested myself |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 7:47:04 AM EDT
[#19]
I was an early adopter, it largely is an effect of having a 30 cal can. I do see it could offer some versatility for those shooting people for a living, but its a toy for me.
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Posted: 5/14/2020 8:08:29 AM EDT
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I have ONE .300... It didn't do anything for me that 5.56 didn't do, and it cost more. Plus it's more more caliber to stock... I cut back a few years ago, and swore off oddball calibers. The ONE 300 rifle barely made the cut, mostly because I liked the configuration of the rifle... And I may swap the barrel yet.
...if I need 30 caliber, it will come in 308, or '-06. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 8:11:14 AM EDT
[#21]
I had an upper
It was nice to shoot I sold it after i got my 7.62x39 upper. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 8:21:16 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted: That doesn't have or much want a .300 BO rifle? I do like the way it shoots, but I'm just not enamored enough with it to drop the coin to build a rifle. I didn’t want “one” either. So I built five. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 8:44:39 AM EDT
[#23]
I have a nice AAC 300 BO upper that I never shoot.
Subs with a can are nice but at short range not much better than a sub 9mm. Supers are not very much more powerful than a 556, just cost more and I have much more powerful 30 cal rifles. Then the idea I might blow up a 556 gun with wrong ammo. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 10:41:55 AM EDT
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For plinking I prefer the 7.62x39 because it's cheaper. However, the Blackout is great for new shooters or shooters who haven't shot subs suppressed. 220 grain subs smack steel nicely. That combined with low recoil and low noise usually have folks grinning after the first couple rounds. It's also a very easy cartridge to reload, so that helps.
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Posted: 5/14/2020 12:03:14 PM EDT
[#25]
It's only a barrel change on an upper. You can use multiple uppers on the same lower. If you already reload you can use the same projectiles between.308/Blackout.
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Posted: 5/14/2020 12:50:12 PM EDT
[#26]
Got enough .308 caliber rifles with hell of a lot more energy than a .300 blackout. If I want to shoot subs the 500gr loads from my .458 socom fill that bill nicely. Never saw a need or want for a 300 whisper/ssk/blackout.
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Posted: 5/14/2020 12:57:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Powder_Burns: Got enough .308 caliber rifles with hell of a lot more energy than a .300 blackout. If I want to shoot subs the 500gr loads from my .458 socom fill that bill nicely. Never saw a need or want for a 300 whisper/ssk/blackout. ditto. It is semi cool though, I could see me having an SBR for home defense use and if I had unlimited funds and nothing else to blow it on I'd think about building one. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 1:27:26 PM EDT
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I know one person who refuses to get into 300-BlackOut because he says there is too much risk of accidentally firing one of them in one of his 5.56/.223 guns with the cartridge false headspacing on the bullet ogive.
For me, although I get his reasoning, it's kind of like when an older gentleman stretched his arm back up and around his head and complained to the doctor "it hurts when I do this.". The doctor replied, "well then don't do that!" I love the 300-BlackOut and it is currently the lowest cost per shot center-fire rifle I own. I cast my own lead bullets, handload them, shoot them into my bullet trap and then melt them down to recast again. Only cost is powder and primer, plus a tiny percentage of lead that doesn't fully recycle. Make my own brass from cut down 6.56/.223 that are free range pickups. Not all rifle cartridges will shoot cast lead bullets at full power loads with no fuss or problems. The 300-BlackOut so far has for me with awesome results. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 1:41:59 PM EDT
[#29]
They are fun on full auto, suppressed, subsonic.
I had an 8.5" CMMG barrel IIRC but ended up just selling it here on the EE, as it just sat in my armory. I got a 10.5" Criterion Grendel barrel from PF recently that I need to build up, just as soon as I finish some other projects. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 3:22:22 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted: That doesn't have or much want a .300 BO rifle? I do like the way it shoots, but I'm just not enamored enough with it to drop the coin to build a rifle. It is one of the cheapest conversions you can make. Barrel, gas tube, muzzle device. Same mag, same BCG as 5.56. Now ammo? Yeah, that is some coin. Steel Wolf is almost here (finally), but the price jumped to $0.40 cents a round. I have a couple of them. Very versatile...my favorite weapons. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 4:02:11 PM EDT
[#31]
I can't get excited about one either, and I shoot almost entirely suppressed. They just seem to be mostly toys, with subs they have a very short useable range, all the metering I've seen with ARs suggests that they usually aren't much, if any quieter at the ear than a well tuned 5.56 AR.
A bolt action .300 BLK could be interesting, but I think it would be a step down in every way that matters compared to the suppressed 77/44 I already have. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 4:05:35 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hotbiggun42: It’s not the cost of the AR that stops me it’s ammo. This is why I changed my Sig Rattler to 5.56. It's a smooth shooter for sure. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 4:36:32 PM EDT
[#33]
I don't own a .300. probably never will.
It's not that it's a bad cartridge. My pet cartridge is 7.62x39. there is even sub Sonic ammo for 7.62x39. if I want to shoot 230~grn bullets at sub Sonic velocities I'll buy a .45acp. One big thing that has held me back from getting into .300 is the cost and availability of ammo. Even today local stores may have 1 or 2 varieties of .300 and of course the Russian ammo still isn't here yet. I can buy 40 round boxes of 7.62x39 for $10, locally. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 5:58:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AASG: I don't own a .300. probably never will. It's not that it's a bad cartridge. My pet cartridge is 7.62x39. there is even sub Sonic ammo for 7.62x39. if I want to shoot 230~grn bullets at sub Sonic velocities I'll buy a .45acp. One big thing that has held me back from getting into .300 is the cost and availability of ammo. Even today local stores may have 1 or 2 varieties of .300 and of course the Russian ammo still isn't here yet. I can buy 40 round boxes of 7.62x39 for $10, locally. Pretty much all of this, except the "pet" cartridge part. Don't think I have one of those, although if I could only own one caliber it would be 22lr (could always use it or improvised methods to obtain bigger/more should the need arise) |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 7:00:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vehemence: My bedside companion is feeling slighted now.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/317025/C149A086-2F65-45F3-ADB6-41A4E68114DD_jpe-1415040.JPG You sleep with it muzzle up? |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 7:07:18 PM EDT
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Quoted: That doesn't have or much want a .300 BO rifle? I do like the way it shoots, but I'm just not enamored enough with it to drop the coin to build a rifle. I have no interest in a 300 BO. You still need ear pro Why get a 300 BO when you can have a 44 BO |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 7:36:33 PM EDT
[#37]
If I could own a suppressor, I'd probably have an 8.5 incher. But that's a no-go, so I'm good with my other calibers.
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Posted: 5/14/2020 9:14:43 PM EDT
[#38]
No, you're not. I'm not interested in the caliber either.
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Posted: 5/14/2020 9:42:09 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hotbiggun42: It’s not the cost of the AR that stops me it’s ammo. Wait for the wolf ammo to finally drop. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 9:49:17 PM EDT
[#40]
I have ARs in .22, 9mm ar pistol, 4 .5.56, 2 6.5 Grendels, 1 7.62x39, 1 6.5 Creedmoor and 2 .308s.
300BO does not appeal to me. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 10:27:40 AM EDT
[#41]
I bought one last year in a 16” configuration only because my state allows the cartridge for deer hunting. I think I’ve shot it once to zero it. It’s a niche gun that really doesn’t do anything for me honestly. I’ve since bought a nice 308 and the only reason the blackout is still here is I can use the reloading supplies I have for it, although I haven’t reloaded for it yet.
If it wasn’t such a cheap caliber swap to get into it would already be gone. But it honestly just sits collecting dust. The smart thing to do would be to sell the blackout and just pickup a 300 blk barrel for one of my MRPs and call it done. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 10:34:56 AM EDT
[#42]
I find the 300 BO interesting, I seen a guy at the range with a full auto suppressed carbine shooting subsonic rounds and that thing was neat! But not neat enough for me to invest in another set of dies, powder and not to mention I hear you can only convert LC brass into BO. I worked hard to condense my reloading down to one pistol caliber and two rifle calibers. Before adding another caliber I really would have to see a real benefit/advantge bacuse the juice will have to be worth the squeeze for me to do it.
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Posted: 5/15/2020 11:02:54 AM EDT
[#43]
It probably depends on what you already have and how you plan on using it.
I find it extremely useful as an HD caliber, and it is also a legal hunting caliber where I live. It excels in the 7.5" to 10.5" range, which is longer than many pistol calibers, and shorter than where intermediate SBR's really begin to shine. Not just in "energy", but it short barrel manners. It suppresses well, or so I'm told (I can't have a can it my state.) If you have a safe full of other calibers, it may not make sense. When I got into it, all I had was was 10.5", 16", and 20" 5.56 rifles. I did not like my 10.5" 5.56. Too blasty, too loud, and the action was too violent. It was just an inefficient combination. My 8.3" and 9".300blk's loaded with 110gr varmint rounds (Vmax or Varmaggedon), or 110gr Tac-tx, are extremely efficient combinations. The bad part is the cost of ammo. Wolf should be here any day now...but China Flu still has the price higher than what I would like. Edit: I should add....the cost of ammo sucks if you do not reload (I do not). However, Hornady Vmax in 200 round ammo cans is extremely affordable. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 11:45:01 AM EDT
[#44]
This post was at the right time....I have three PSA lowers that I just put together a few nights ago....bought them way back when they were $30 and free shipping.
I have been kicking around the 300 BO for a while and since these were purchased as stripped lowers, one is going to be a pistol build. I am just dragging my feet on the BO, as I am not sure I want another cartridge. But I am picking up another suppressor today, a Deadair Sandman K and thinking a 9" pistol build, KAK stabilizer and the Sandman K will make an excellent compact 300 build. Bronc |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 11:58:07 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ogive: No, OP. It's a boutique cartridge... Just like 6.5 Grendel... Don't take that as me dissing the caliber but I would own a 6.5G before I would have a 300BLK. My preference is to shoot stuff far away and 5.56 already does that for me. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 12:07:16 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ghostface: I find the 300 BO interesting, I seen a guy at the range with a full auto suppressed carbine shooting subsonic rounds and that thing was neat! But not neat enough for me to invest in another set of dies, powder and not to mention I hear you can only convert LC brass into BO. I worked hard to condense my reloading down to one pistol caliber and two rifle calibers. Before adding another caliber I really would have to see a real benefit/advantge bacuse the juice will have to be worth the squeeze for me to do it. I reload also. When I was going to get into 300BO I already had all the tools to convert 5.56 brass because of motorcycle and automotive fabrication stuff. However, I saw an ad for Carolina Brass for very decent prices for converted, once-fired, LC brass. I bought a bag, and all my measurements and inspection showed them to be spot on. I reloaded them a few times and have had no issues. 300BO is very easy on brass even in an AR, so I can't imagine how long brass life will be. I bought another couple bags and probably have enough to last probably until my end...LOL! I haven't looked at their prices recently, but I doubt they've become outrageous. I just didn't find it necessary to roll my own under the circumstances. Ghostface, you mention LC-only brass. I like LC obviously, but friends have given me loads of other brands of once-fired 300BO factory brass. I've reloaded some of them at least once without issues. I don't doubt that the LC will probably outlast the others, but again, 300BO just isn't that tough on brass. Surely primer pockets and neck cracking will hit them sooner than LC, but hey...they were free...LOL! |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 2:01:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR_Dale: I have a nice AAC 300 BO upper that I never shoot. Subs with a can are nice but at short range not much better than a sub 9mm. Supers are not very much more powerful than a 556, just cost more and I have much more powerful 30 cal rifles. Then the idea I might blow up a 556 gun with wrong ammo. This is a very interesting post. I'm quoting it because it really gets to "point of view". From what I see, your .300blk should be replacing BOTH your 9mm and (short barrel) 5.56. That is literally what is was designed to do. The issue seems to be ammo cost (as opposed to ballistics). Since you have .308 as well, is there any particular need for intermediate 5.56? But since you already had that stuff, I can see how .300blk would not be a cost effective upgrade. I don't shoot long distance at all. I had considered changing my 20" 5.56 to 6.5G, but passed on it, because it would just be a more expensive version of a weapon that is never fired. I've been reducing my arms footprint, and that 20"er did not make the cut. I will be keeping just one 16" 5.56 SHTF AR, but it will basically stay in the safe. I don't really shoot it now. I have a braced 12.5" 5.56 with a thread protector that is just a host for 22LR because NOTHING is cheaper (or more fun) than shooting 22LR out of SBR length weapons. Outside of a specific hunting or target shooting situation, the range and accuracy of .300blk will be more than I ever need in any realistic HD/SD circumstance. I don't worry about mixing up ammo because I really don't shoot 5.56. 22LR is cheaper. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 3:15:06 PM EDT
[#48]
I finally succumbed to the 300BK... mostly because it is a more efficient powder burn in shorter barrels then a 5.56. So "less" muzzle blast from a short 300BK.
That and PSA's FN CHF CL barreled uppers in 8" and 10.5" put me over the top. I am a sucker for FN CHF CL barrels. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:40:32 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 135Patriots: Yeah, I'm good on 300BO. It's a cool round to shoot subs out of a very short barrel and has better ballistics than PCCs - so it has a use case. But if I want a rifle round, i'll reach for 5.56 every time over 300. A 10" 5.56 is plenty handy enough. In before "but energy" gets thrown around a bunch 
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Posted: 5/22/2020 12:52:56 PM EDT
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I jumped on it when it first came out. Lost interest; if I don't shoot it I get rid of it; recently sold out of everything, uppers, ammo, brass, etc. I did keep the dies lol.
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