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Posted: 1/31/2023 10:51:53 PM EDT
[#1]
Meh on BCM.
For a tier 1 at you need to look at LMT, KAC, OR Triarc. I have a 14.5 DD M4A1 SOPMOD made by DD that I like but you're probably not going to be able to find one. To add I have DD, Knights, and Geissele. |
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Posted: 1/31/2023 10:59:32 PM EDT
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IF…I was going to get (some more) 14.5” barreled guns, they’d be Colt SOCOMs.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Colt-M4A1-SOCOM-Barrel-Accuracy-Another-Look/118-762088/ |
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Posted: 1/31/2023 11:10:33 PM EDT
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BCM is good to go, so is the DD.
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Posted: 2/1/2023 5:33:38 PM EDT
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Quoted: Looking to add a 14.5” to these. Looking at BCM, DD, or a Geissele Super Duty Bravo Company 14.5” ELW Accuracy: A Quick Look ELW stands for enhanced light-weight. This barrel is from Bravo Company’s cold-hammer forged series of barrels. The barrel has a “continuous taper” design with a smooth shoulder at the gas block journal, which reportedly improves barrel harmonics. This barrel has a mid-length gas system and a 0.625” gas block journal. According to Bravo Company, this barrel has a stripped weight of 1 pound, 5 ounces. For comparison, a Colt 14.5” M4 barrel has a stripped weight of 1 pound, 9 ounces. BCM 14.5” ELW  Colt 14.5” M4 barrel. (not stripped)  I purchased this barrel as part of a BCM factory assembled upper receiver group with the MCMR 13” free-float hand guard. The barrel has BCM’s pinned and welded A2X flash hider. Shooting off-the-bench at a distance of 100 yards (using a high magnification scope), this barrel produced a 10-shot group that has an extreme spread of 0.946” with a mean radius of 0.33”.     .... reports of problems with geissele's geissele super duty fails to eject, fails to lock bolt back four geissele barrels fail to extract part 1 four geissele barrels fail to extract part 2 16" geissele barrel won't cycle Having to Mortar brand new 11.5 URGI part 1 having to mortar brand new 11.5" URGI part 2 geissele 16" barrel short-stroking problem with yet another geissele 16" super duty geissele super duty won't reliably chamber rounds geissele barrel won't cycle reliably part 1 geissele barrel won't cycle reliably part 2 geissele 11.5" won't cycle reliably without a suppressor geissele gas port size issue geissele barrel won't even unlock ... |
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Posted: 2/2/2023 3:00:49 PM EDT
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BCMs are rock solid in my experience.
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Posted: 2/2/2023 9:15:51 PM EDT
[#6]
Given your current stable, maybe consider a BCM ELW Fluted 14.5"
Mine is really nimble, and the balance is wildly different ( better ) then my 16" carbines. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 10:18:17 PM EDT
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Just throwing this out but BCM is currently including BCGs with uppers for free. Pretty sweet deal.
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Posted: 3/6/2023 11:29:35 PM EDT
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I have read nothing but good things about the criterion barrels. If grand thumb (mike) gives it seal of approval that's good enough for me.
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Posted: 3/8/2023 9:24:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/6/2023 9:28:45 AM EDT
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We offer a few different options you might want to check out. We have builders grade and RTB which is our own luxury line brand. Check out our 14.5" complete uppers below.
RTB Complete uppers |
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Posted: 6/6/2023 9:53:07 AM EDT
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I think DD is top tier. They make all their stuff in house and make some of the best barrels. I would go with them.
I have KAC and G Doody as well. Oh and a Colt build. My least fav is the G. It's just chunky with their rails. KAC is very nice as is the Colt SOCOM build. I've just been happiest overall with the Double Ds. |
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Posted: 6/7/2023 8:44:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BCMs are rock solid in my experience. Same here. Also Colt. |
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Posted: 6/7/2023 9:19:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Same here. Also Colt. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: BCMs are rock solid in my experience. Same here. Also Colt. Lol. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 1:48:08 PM EDT
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I have both Geissele and BCM in 14.5 (pics) along with Centurion Arms and Colt 6920 I had cut down.
DD has a solid reputation as well. 14.5 is an excellent size to balance and give good velocity and maneuverability.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 10:28:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IF…I was going to get (some more) 14.5” barreled guns, they’d be Colt SOCOMs. https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Colt-M4A1-SOCOM-Barrel-Accuracy-Another-Look/118-762088/ Colt Socoms are the best CL barrels out there imho. I’d also look at DD for complete rifle/upper or criterion for just a barrel. Most of the other manufacturers that market CHF CL barrels source their barrels from FN. And while pricing is all over the map depending on ‘brand’ they are mostly all made by FN. You will need to do your research here. They are great barrels also. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 11:03:00 AM EDT
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Love my BCM ELW 14.5 it's a very handy gun.
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Posted: 6/22/2023 8:02:42 PM EDT
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I just got this LMT L7D1 from Rooftop Defense. It's their version of an M4A1. No BCG or CH for $577 with discount code arfcom
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Posted: 6/22/2023 8:12:17 PM EDT
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Quoted: I just got this LMT L7D1 from Rooftop Defense. It's their version of an M4A1. That is not an M4A1 profile barrel.  .... |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 9:00:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is not an M4A1 profile barrel. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/28568/socom_barrel_comparison_02-1305775.jpg .... I was just paraphrasing their verbiage "Standard flat-top upper receiver with 14.5? chrome lined 1:7? twist 5.56 barrel. Meeting todays military specifications, the L7D1 is a common equivalent to the upper delivered on the US M4A1 5.56 carbine." |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 9:35:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Same here. Also Colt. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: BCMs are rock solid in my experience. Same here. Also Colt. My Colts have been exceptional too. |
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Posted: 7/16/2023 9:47:52 AM EDT
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I have two 14.5 guns, one is a BCM M4 carbine upper on a BCM lower, and the other is a BCM upper receiver with a Colt SOCOM barrel riding on a BCM lower. I am big on BCM and out of the three you mentioned that is what I would choose, not to say that I have anything against Geissele or DD, I just don't have much experience with them. I don't see anything that makes them worth more than the BCM guns other than preference. Later today I will upload some pics to this thread of my two.
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Posted: 7/18/2023 2:22:46 AM EDT
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^sounds like a plan.
I just grabbed a Blem upper from BCM for $60 and plan to match it to a Colt Barrel. |
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Posted: 7/18/2023 3:02:14 AM EDT
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I was doing some work for PWS, they were gonna send me an upper for testing. That upper got waylaid, so they sent a 14.5" barrel. They don't sell this barrel standalone, only as part of a compete firearm.
It has been an excellent barrel, but for now it's just sitting in the parts box until I build another upper I suppose |
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Posted: 7/18/2023 3:33:30 PM EDT
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If you’re cool with rolling your own the Colt SOCOM barrel is hard to beat. It’s moderately priced, properly gassed, and more accurate than a button rifled chrome lined barrel should be.
I’d also second the recommendation for BCM. I’m not sure I get the BCM hate here as of late as they sell a solid product. |
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