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Posted: 11/7/2021 6:48:47 AM EDT

For a recent build I had brand new but old A2 Flash Hider laying around, so I put it on the 10.3" barrel, but yet to test it. Used to shooting 16" and 18" rifles.
How many of you shoot primarily with A2 Flash Hider?
What are your experiences with it actually suppressing the flash?

I have arguably top 3 flash hider in possession (Dead Air Flash Hider), but I like the aesthetics of A2 Flash Hider, is just not enough for 10.3" barrel to hide the flash good enough?
A2 is literally half as short as Dead Air.

What do you think?

Dead air is excellent, but it's longer than most of my muzzle brakes, I wanted to keep my built short and effective for flash hiding and maneuvering tight spaces.

Posted: 11/7/2021 7:03:31 AM EDT

[#1]

10.3 with an A2 will make some good fireballs.

Posted: 11/7/2021 9:08:43 AM EDT

[#2]

Works just fine.

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Posted: 11/7/2021 9:33:48 AM EDT

[#3]

Have you considered the forward controls dead air A2? I like A2 it does a good job with flash AND dust signature. Some people forget the dust issue prone with some other options.

Posted: 11/7/2021 4:41:40 PM EDT

[#4]

On my 10.5, I changed my A2 out, and replaced it with an "AR Stoner" linear comp.. It is just a touch longer than the A2.
Like it much better now, especially, while shooting it in an indoor range. Damn thing is still load, but, flash is minimalized greatly.
10ring

Posted: 11/7/2021 11:05:30 PM EDT

[#5]

I messed around with A2s and linear comps on 10.5\11.5 barrels but the flash\fireballs were too much.
Pick your flavor of 3 or 4 prong flash hider and you'll be much happier. I like the Wilson accu-tac, no flash and no annoying ping sound.

Posted: 11/7/2021 11:10:36 PM EDT

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10.3 with an A2 will make some good fireballs.

Haha, awww, a man can dream I guess. A2 dreams on 10.3"

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I messed around with A2s and linear comps on 10.5\11.5 barrels but the flash\fireballs were too much.
Pick your flavor of 3 or 4 prong flash hider and you'll be much happier. I like the Wilson accu-tac, no flash and no annoying ping sound.

Dang, well...shoot... :D

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Have you considered the forward controls dead air A2? I like A2 it does a good job with flash AND dust signature. Some people forget the dust issue prone with some other options.

I did look into almost every flash hider, and this is the reason why I have Dead Air Flash Hider in hand, but that other option you suggested is about as long as what I have already :-) Thank you for suggestion

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Works just fine.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/33069/20200910_204457_jpg-2157876.JPG

Nice rifle, I like the classic MK18 look. How big is your fireball with A2?

Posted: 11/7/2021 11:41:25 PM EDT

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Haha, awww, a man can dream I guess. A2 dreams on 10.3"

Dang, well...shoot... :D

I did look into almost every flash hider, and this is the reason why I have Dead Air Flash Hider in hand, but that other option you suggested is about as long as what I have already :-) Thank you for suggestion

Nice rifle, I like the classic MK18 look. How big is your fireball with A2?

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I only shoot what I get from work- WWB M193- and I don't think it is all that oppressive. It is the only AR that I shoot unsuppressed.

Posted: 11/8/2021 1:02:28 PM EDT

[#8]

I had an A2 on my 10.5, but changed it over to a Kineti-Tech brake/sleeve MD and am much happier behind the sights.

Posted: 11/8/2021 1:17:15 PM EDT

[#9]

Put a Flash Can on my 10.5 to reduce the noise (at the shooter side at least).

I have a twin 10.5 with the A2 and the difference is noticeable. Both will still fireball - flash a lot much due to barrel length.

BIGGER_HAMMER

Posted: 11/8/2021 1:23:13 PM EDT

[#10]

A2 on a 10.5” seemed fine the few times I’ve shot them at an indoor range.

Fireball (or lack thereof) may be dependent on ammo too.

But in general I’d prefer a Smith Vortex.

Posted: 11/24/2021 10:36:15 PM EDT

[#11]

Get a vortex!

Posted: 11/25/2021 4:32:41 PM EDT

[#12]

Suppress it instead!!!

Posted: 11/25/2021 4:59:03 PM EDT

[#13]

I run 10.5 and 11.5’s with the DA Xeno A2 style flash hiders. The fireball off the 10.5 are as long as the rifle!

Posted: 11/26/2021 6:36:08 PM EDT

[#14]

i had a couple of a2s on my aero prebuilt uppers. i took them off and went delta vg6's they are like the daniel defences and a ct warcomp minus the holes

Posted: 11/27/2021 12:33:31 PM EDT

[#15]

I have assorted guns with hard sights to include a couple of shorties. One happens to be a 10.3" w/ an A1 flash hider. The bottom 11.5" uses an A2-type. My 20" rifle is A2'd with a scope and a few carbines are A2'd. The only time I've seen a "fireball" bother anyone was in a non-combat experience. Same with hearing protection though I recommend it.

Posted: 11/27/2021 12:38:02 PM EDT

[#16]

10.3 with 3 prong hider here. No issues with flash or concussion

As others have said it may be load dependent

Posted: 11/29/2021 5:48:06 AM EDT

[#17]

Shooting outdoors I never had an issue with the A2 on my 10.5

A Turbo K works better though

Posted: 12/2/2021 10:37:38 PM EDT

[#18]

My 10.5 runs a Kak Flash can.

Posted: 12/2/2021 11:59:55 PM EDT

[#19]

I’ll be trying a BRT covert in a few days. Read is very good on Sbrs…
Will report back. It’s short

Posted: 12/3/2021 1:32:50 AM EDT

[#20]

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A2 on a 10.5” seemed fine the few times I’ve shot them at an indoor range.

Fireball (or lack thereof) may be dependent on ammo too.

[color=#0000ff]But in general I’d prefer a Smith Vortex.

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This emboldened for sure. SEI's Vortex is on all but 1 of my AR's now. Once swapping to the 4prong Vortex a major reduction in both muzzle flash &
concussion was immediately noticed especially indoors. There is no flash with Hornady, Speer, Prvi-Partizan's (OTM's), Black Hills, Mk262's... pretty much any quality ammo with flash retardants.

Posted: 12/4/2021 9:18:04 AM EDT

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I’ll be trying a BRT covert in a few days. Read is very good on Sbrs…
Will report back. It’s short

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You will like it. Prior to the arrival of my first cans, this is what I used. 10.3 is a beast indoors, the BRT makes it a bit more enjoyable.

I have one on my .308, too. I like them.

As JM said, otherwise pronged FH work the best, and Smith is a great one.

Posted: 12/6/2021 1:29:53 PM EDT

[#22]

I installed a Smith Vortex on my Mk18 before I ever fired it, but had one on my 13" Galil ACE chambered in 5.56 and it did a fine job

Posted: 12/14/2021 9:59:05 PM EDT

[#23]

My 11.5" barrel AR put out some excellent fireballs. After one trip, I put a flash can on it

Posted: 12/14/2021 10:00:39 PM EDT

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Smith Vortex is the best for hiding that flash. Had one on my main AR and on my 308.

Posted: 12/23/2021 10:19:09 PM EDT

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You will like it. Prior to the arrival of my first cans, this is what I used. 10.3 is a beast indoors, the BRT makes it a bit more enjoyable.

I have one on my .308, too. I like them.

As JM said, otherwise pronged FH work the best, and Smith is a great one.

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I installed it before the first shot with the original flash hider that comes with. Shot it indoors and I thought it was fine. Didn't really think it was loud. Maybe it does work!

Thanks

Posted: 1/1/2022 11:13:58 PM EDT

[#26]

SMITH VORTEX F/H

Posted: 1/1/2022 11:24:09 PM EDT

[#27]

Phantom

Posted: 1/2/2022 2:39:15 PM EDT

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How many of you shoot primarily with A2 Flash Hider?
What are your experiences with it actually suppressing the flash?

... I like the aesthetics of A2 Flash Hider, is just not enough for 10.3" barrel to hide the flash good enough?
A2 is literally half as short as Dead Air.

What do you think?

I wanted to keep my built short and effective for flash hiding and maneuvering tight spaces.

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A2 sucks on a 10.3", I know because I've tried it.

Extended A1 is what you want, and is what I settled on for the same reasons as you when I still had a 10.3" 5.56 pistol (which I have since swapped the barrel for 10.3" .300 blk for less concussion/blast and same or better terminal performance).

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1003398755

Posted: 3/18/2022 1:43:28 AM EDT

[#29]

The Yankee Hill Machine Phantom is based on the Smith Vortex, but with a closed end.

There is the original 4 slot version with teeth and the newer 5 slot version, with or without teeth.

The 5 slot version without teeth is sold as the, smooth" version and is less likely to snag upholstery, clothing or seat belts.

The Phantom is as thick as an A2, so it's sightly heavier, but VG6 makes the 556 Delta, which is a similar length, but made of slightly thinner, hardened stainless steel, that is black nitrided and includes a crush washer.

The VG6 556 Delta often goes on sale for around $30.

The VG6 is sold as a compensator and is supposed to direct the muzzle blast forward.

It is much more of a flash hider than a compensator and better at flash hiding than the A2 and nearly s good as the YHM Phantom.

It has closed bottom and some blast does go forward out of its slots, but I don't know if that is by design or just the blast heading that way out anyway.

YHM Phantom or 556 Delta or maybe, an extended A2, or for open prongs, there are several other options.

YHM machine also has a compensator with nearly the same part number that doesn't suppress any flash at all, so make sure to choose the flash hider version.

The 556 Delta is sold as a comp, but it is in every way a flash hider.

Posted: 3/18/2022 3:38:30 AM EDT

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I have a Blackout f/s on my 10.3 and get flash.. Maybe next time I take it out, I may try a Vortex.

Posted: 3/18/2022 12:31:24 PM EDT

[#31]

I might try a JP 3 prong in my 10.3’s I just got. That one was the best out of that big comparison study. Zero flash but not sure if it was on a 10.3.

Or just say f it and get a suppressor.