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Wow good thing you can get a BATF Tech letter for it, otherwise I would be afraid it would be mistaken by local LE for a suppressor. Makes sense that it just directs the decibels forward, therefore does not suppress the sound at all. Still would carry a copy of the letter along with a copy of my tax stamp.
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Generally speaking only the ATF would be interested in the possibility of a FS acting as a suppressor (not your local PD). I think the tin hat mafia has gotten ahold of you and wouldn't worry yourself about such things. C4 |
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Yep, you are probably right. It is definitely on my "must have" short list. |
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So where's Mongo with some sort of modified flash hider or brake that can be installed on a barrel and replace that stainless adapter? I'm not sure how the OD of a standard (22mm?) FS compares to the ID of the Krink FS, but it would be nice to make the Krink removable without a wrench.
How do we summon the Evil Machinist? |
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I have next to zero experience with "SBAR's" so...
I'm not even sure how much a 10.5" jumps around with just an A2? Does it have any effect on muzzle rise? (does it even matter?!? It's cool as is! ) |
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Guys, the brake does work as Tim, and Dave has described. I saw it in action last week. It was a great idea to marry the Krink to the SBR.
A word on Noveske. I learned very quickly that Tim and Pat support manufacturers of high quality gear, but they promote those manufacturers that are truly good people, with the desire to outfit operators with the best gear and service they can provide. I'm sure you'll agree that there aren't enough such people out there, hence, John Noveske really does deserve our business. Be well! [email protected] |
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This is true. Pat and Tim (and the rest of the 10-8 crew) only use the best gear and only back companies that have the same high standards. If anyone wonders who these companies are should check out their forum! www.10-8forums.com C4 www.gandrtactical.com |
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I got a chance to shoot a 10.5 Noveske with the Krink. No noticeable difference in sound or jump from my 14.5 with Vortex.
The Krink isn't as big in person. |
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I shot over 1K through my 11.5" w/Krink at Pat's course this weekend. It really does work as advertised.
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Tim-L,
If I were going to add the Bulgy (loctited one) to a 14.5 (12.75?!?) inch barrel, could I get it not loctited so I could do the permattaching. I would prefer not to un-loctite just so I could get the silver wield in their. Hrmm, or could I send my barrel to John Noveske and have him do the work? - Gazukull |
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Noveske now offers the Krinkov Flash Hiders with a permanently attached adapter. Contact him directly and you will be taken care of.
Tim PS. Thanks to all for your kind words re: 10-8 Forums. G&R Tactical and ADCO Firearms represent two of the very few retail vendors I wholeheartedly recommend. The other would be the excellent folks over at MSTN. |
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Thanks Tim. C4 www.GRTactical.com |
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Thank you, Tim. I feel comfortable speaking for ADCO Firearms, and G&R Tactical when I say we appreciate what you do for the firearm/law enforcement community.
Be well! |
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Great rifle there with the gear and camo job. Now I have to equip all of my SBRs with Noveske Krinkovs! |
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I want one of these on the SBR I'm building. Thanks for all the info! |
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If you come out to FDCC this weekend, I'll bring the AR pistol with the krink brake and you can try it.
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How long is it taking for you folks to receive your Bulg. Krinks?
I ordered from jnrifleworks last week. What should I expect? Edit: Shipped out yesterday. |
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Glad you like it and look forward to some pics. C4 www.GRTactical.com |
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Thanks for the great review. I think I may see one of these in my future. |
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The rifle is still loud - from all I've heard no one has quit wearing hearing protection when they shoot these things. I bet the only way the officer would know the sound is different is if they are around short barrelled rifles in the first place... Spooky Trying to decide if it is worth getting for a rifle that isn't 10 or 11 inches long... |
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I can't really imagine why you'd want to for a 16" or for that matter even a 14.5". The weight is a factor, it's not a whole lot, but on a longer gun you are already heavier from barrel length. Plus, it is not a particularly effective flash hider, and the blast is already out there far enough to not be that big a deal. On a long gun I'd stick with the tried and true A2, Phantom, Vortex, whatever you like. My 2 cents anyway. |
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Very nice! Any chance of a peek down the barrel when it is disassembled? Spooky |
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I tried, too dark in there and the flash just didn't light it up clearly enough to see. The funnel shaped piece fits right up against the muzzle of the barrel, so when you look inside you see the barrel sticking out just a fraction of an inch past the FH. when you put the cone in , it slides down against the muzzle and the retaining ring locks everything in place. It must fit pretty tight against the barrel, there wasn't much residue on the outside of the cone, so not much blowby. I did put some antisieze on the threads when I put it back together, just in case. |
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Why the large body if the cone is right up against the muzzle?
I thought the chamber inside would do something with regard to flash suppression. |
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It does not appear to. Even if gas was to blowby into that chamber, it would have no place to go. The large body seems to be just a container for the cone. The inside of the chamber was pretty clean. I don't really know what the design intent was, maybe someone else does. |
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If your barrel is threaded correctly, 1/2x28x.625" 2A, there is appx .5" between the muzzle and end of cone.
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Geez, be careful when you ask for an expert opinion!!!! Wow Thanks John! I will look in there and see. It seems to be closer than that, but it's hard to tell. It's an off the shelf Bushy 11.5 MG barrel. Great product by the way. So is that the intent? That some of the flash goes into the chamber surrounding the cone? I have no idea how it works other than the obvious megaphone function concerning the blast. ETA: Went outside where I could see well and there is some gap between the end of the muzzle and the start of the cone, so I guess it's correct then. It was too dark to tell inside the house. |
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IIRC correctly from another thread, the chamber is there to allow for the unburnt powder and gases to accumulate, thereby reducing flash signature.
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Its a gas trap design. Flash is reduced by the gas accumulated in the cone. On my actual krink, some shots have a signature, some do not. Even when it does flame, the flash is significantly reduced over what you'd see with an A2 on a shorty AR. Main benefit is the sound re-direction. An excellent product, just got my AR brake friday. Looking forward to shooting it.
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How much does it weigh? I cannot find the weight anywhere.
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Right around 9 ounces. C4 www.GRTactical.com |
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Well, I think I finally found what I want to replace my mini Y comp with on my 14.5 M4 barrel.
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That's cool.
I just got mine! Is the Blue loctite really needed? Seems like when the barrel heats up it would not help in anyway. |
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TexasSIG wrote:
Dave Pennington recently performed a comparison of the Noveske KFH and a standard A2 brake during some training we did at 10-8 a few weeks ago. I was present for the demo, along with a bunch of other shooters. The guns used were SBR's with 10.5" barrels. Ammunition used included as issued M855 green tip, Federal XM193, and BH Mk 262 Mod 1. The Mk 262 had the least amount of flash across the board, but the KFH proved significantly more effective as a flash hider than the A2. The most impressive was with Federal XM193. It created a large fireball out of the A2 but was reduced to a small orange cone out of the Noveske KFH. Tim |
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I would suggest it. C4 |
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Understand I posted that in response to a question about putting the device on a longer barrel. I did say in my original review that it appeared to me to be less than the A2 I was using, just that it is not such a huge difference just as a flash hider. I shoot XM193 exclusively, and there does not seem to be a significant reduction in the fireball, at least from the view point of the shooter. A little but not a lot. I have not had someone off to the side observing. I'm just giving my objective opinion. You posted the following on 6/18 where you agreed with what I observed. With all due respect, this shows it to be a very subjective thing and appears difficult to quantify in some fashion. Originally posted by Tim-L
And from Mr Pennington:
The thing it's important to note, and the thing that makes this device well worth the money in my opinion, is that the blast and flash are "moved" several inches forward of the barrel, making the immediate area around the shooter much more pleasant. I'm not particularly concerned with what the person it's pointed at thinks of it It's a fantastic device though, I want to make sure anyone reading understands that. The blast reduction is truly amazing and makes me want to shoot the shorty more often. |
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TexasSIG,
I did say it seemed a little less efficient than the A2, but that was an initial, very conservative estimation. I had compared the KFH shooting unknown, low quality frangible ammunition with the A2 shooting high quality mil and commercial ammunition. It wasn't until we did the back to back comparison at the Vickers course in VA that I got to see the effectiveness of the KFH as a flash hider. There were approximately 20 other students in the class that witnessed this firsthand, and the reaction was fairly unanimous. Observation was done way off to the side and slightly forward of the muzzle. We fired five rounds of each type of ammunition, and results were consistent. For more info, see www.10-8forums.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=7108&an=0&page=0#7108 Tim |
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Okay, now I have to remember where a put that little bottle. |
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Certainly not trying to argue, it just seems subjective. I have not had the opportunity to see it from the side, I would like to do that soon. It's always difficult to judge from behind the weapon. Thanks for the link. |
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