Didnt someone just recently post they got their Tac-Point in a box marked "Made In China?"

Or did I imagine that?

Quoted: Quoted: I figured I can give them out to the kids on Halloween. Trick or treat!!!

Trick for SURE!!!


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Quoted: This is what really pisses me off over here at ARF.com. A bunch of f*ing stuck up bi-otches that run around the range with the most expensive optics money can buy...

Yeah, but you know Im your favorite fucking stuck up bitch

Quoted: This is what really pisses me off over here at ARF.com. A bunch of f*ing stuck up bi-otches that run around the range with the most expensive optics money can buy...then look down their snob noses on us that would rather buy additional rifles and pistols with our hard earned money vs. buying an overpriced piece of glass. If you have actual experiece with a Hakko and it crapped out on you when you were all mall-ninja'ed up...please post it. If you have a Aimpoint, that you paid more for than my last rifle, and no experience with Hakko's STFU. This is the only board that I have seen such an attitude of utter snobbery by those who choose to spend more on glass than most spend on rifles. If you choose to do so that is your choice. If I choose to put my money towards rifles that will be banned one day, then buy glass then, that is my choice. PS> I just received an email from TexasTac. They will be shipping my Hakko on 9 Sep. 04. Only $95! CHEERS. KILO OUT

I don't know where you are getting AR's for $325, but I want some! That is the going price for a ML2 these days. I also don't think it is about being stuck up. It is about the fact that they are made in China and everyone of them that you buy buys another 7.62 round for the commies!  The other issue most have (me included) is that people HONESTLY think that they are good as a ML2 or M2! This is the part that blows my mind more than anything. If you want to put in on your 10/22 and shoot cans all day more power to ya. Just don't tell me that it is up to the standards of Aimpoint!!!!

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C'mon everyone... we're not where we were a few weeks ago, but lets not go down that road.

I got a pair today - the single and double ring models.

Not too bad looking at all. Mounted the single ring to my Mini-14 scout rail after painting it in three color desert (something I wouldn't dare do to my Aimpoints) and the two ring got mounted to my FAL.

Someone mentioned that they had a blue cast to them but comparing them to my Aimpoint Comp ML and Comp M2 I can't see a dime's worth color cast difference between the four of them. They both have a small amount of deep blue cast but it seemed pretty equal.

Paint is still drying on the single ring. Don't know if I'll keep them or just add them to the pile of optics in the safe.

The paint is dry:

I have found in my five years here, I use to be this forums moderator before getting shit-canned to the general discussion that many people (MANY) have no idea of what they're doing with their weapons and are mearly following fashion trends. Like the 95% of 4x4's that will never see anything but pavement, lots of people here buy $1200 rifle scopes and only shoot them off the bench at 100 yards, or buy a $450 red-dot and mount and do the same. Too many guys seek status by buying stuff to hang off their rifle. Too many people think that their lack of skill with the weapon can be purchased and attached to the rifle.

I'm still trying to deside if a set of $175 rings are better than a $150 set, or a $50 set for that matter. There always is a certain level of quality that is good enough. In electrical engineering we had the rule of 10:1 and then 20:1 - if the tollerances were added up in the circuit there was a "fudge" factor for 10% to 5% and spending time working the circuit to be better then that wasn't needed, install some VR's and other calibration devices and move on.

Other than shooting off a concrete bench at stationary targets of a know size at a fixed distance there are so many uncontrollable parts of the hit the target issue that the rifle becomes the smallest part of the equasion compared to the riflemen's abilities. Motion, wind, range estimation errors, shooting up or down hill, and stance are all as important or more important than the 0.1 MOA that the rings or red dot might add. Give my mother an $4500 AR equipped with the best of everything and I'll out shoot her with an off the rack used Mini-14 that cost $250. (Mom doesn't shoot much - nor see very well).

If money could buy skill why would the pros practice and train so much?

I understand the difference between a "sniper" rifle - a benchrest rifle - and a combat weapon. Different weapons require different optics.



You can hang a $320 Aimpoint M2 off a Mini-14 and not do any better with it then hanging a Hakko TacPoint off of it. I've hung one of my Aimpoints on my Mini-14 and found that I could hit my 18" (center of mass of a man's chest) pretty well out to and beyond 200 yards. A bit worse than one of my AR's with the same sight but good enough for my urban enviornment where I have used a laser range finder to find shots out to a bit more than 100 yards.

Does putting a set of $6000 spinner wheels on your '73 Pacer wagon make it go any faster?

My FAL isn't used for shooting bulleyes either. I've been using a tiny 10-15 year old Tasco AccuDot on the FAL for awhile to some good effect. The AccuDot belongs back on the pistol it came from so the Hakko double ring took it's place. Mounted in see through rings the iron sight is (sort of) available. I'm going to mill open the ring to gain some better visibility of the irons as the they're mounted really low on an FAL.

Focus on your target not your status or even looks!

Here's my "perfect pair" with a 3x compact ACOG and an Aimpoint Comp ML (replaced with an M2 since the picture was taken)


Designated riflemen's rifle.


CQB weapon.

No freefloated rail system, no forward vertical grips, no lasers, only what is needed to hit a person's COM at the distance the weapon is to be deployed at. Using the iron sights of the rifle it's plenty easy to hit targets up close and personal. The red-dot-of-death isn't too bad out to a couple hundred yards either of the carbine. Both weapons have two sets of sights ready to go - no flipping for me.

Sorry if I dont take seriously the opinions of those that NEVER plan on the possibility of having to use their firearms for a serious purpose, and thus dont care about having quality gear.

God knows Koreans defending their shops from rioters and Floridians defending their homes looters after a huricane is so rare,  or even Joe-citizen defedning his home for that matter, NO ONE needs 100% proven reliable weapons or accessories.  In fact, they are normally just used as range toys.

So, the next time some politician wants to take your guns, be sure to defend your right to go plinking.

Sarah Brady would love this.  Guns are for duck hunting and shooting cans.  Anything else and you must be one of  "those" nuts.

How the character of this country has changed.

Quoted: Terms like "Gucci Gear Girl's Club" and "Gear Queer" are not aimed at soldiers gearing up for deployment. It is aimed at those of us who use our rifles to punch holes in paper targets but insist on buying the best gear as if we WERE gearing up for deployment.  As I stated in another post, it is not an insult. It is just a humorous way to refer to people who buy the best, whether they need it or not.

The term was coined by an asshole using it as an insult.  


And I wasnt talking about you, I was talking about the general tone of these threads.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The one I have does NOT say "Made In China".   So you think YOURS was specially made some place else? Post something useful or go away, Trollboy.

You cant stand it when he proves you wrong, can you?