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Posted: 11/2/2016 10:59:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It been move to December. I order mine April 2. Try to cancel it yesterday if I don't get a response I'll try to call them in a week Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't know about you but any time I pull and release the trigger it is in a safe direction. Exactly. Has anyone received a shipment notification? If so, please list when you ordered. I haven't gotten a thing, ordered on April 11th. It been move to December. I order mine April 2. Try to cancel it yesterday if I don't get a response I'll try to call them in a week Where did you see this noted? |
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Posted: 11/2/2016 11:07:18 AM EDT
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I don't know about you but any time I pull and release the trigger it is in a safe direction. Exactly. Has anyone received a shipment notification? If so, please list when you ordered. I haven't gotten a thing, ordered on April 11th. It been move to December. I order mine April 2. Try to cancel it yesterday if I don't get a response I'll try to call them in a week Where did you see this noted? Right on their website, where you can preorder. |
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Posted: 11/2/2016 11:25:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Right on their website, where you can preorder. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It been move to December. I order mine April 2. Try to cancel it yesterday if I don't get a response I'll try to call them in a week Where did you see this noted? Right on their website, where you can preorder. It's not "right on their website". On their homepage, it still says Q3 for shipment. However, if you navigate to their ECHO preorder page, there is now a note saying current orders are "estimated" to ship 12/2016. Why am I not surprised by this being further delayed? They've thrown out dates from the beginning, only to delay it even further every time. If I wasn't waiting on the one we ordered for a review, I'd have canceled long ago. I really want to like this company, but their communication is terrible. |
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Posted: 11/2/2016 1:46:24 PM EDT
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The "current ordered estimed to ship 12/2016" has been there since I preordered in June.
The "By Nov 1st at the latest" was the last official promise to be broken. It's pathetic. Empty promises are one thing, taking $200 a head and then stringing people along keeping them in the dark is bordering on fraud. |
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Posted: 11/2/2016 1:49:47 PM EDT
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Fostech has been making nice bumpstocks for years. I don't think they're out to screw anyone but it would be nice if they were more forthright.
IMO they're getting screwed by the ATF like Geissele was with their fast trigger design. |
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Posted: 11/2/2016 2:43:31 PM EDT
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Can't believe anybody preorders a firearm related item and actually expects it to ship on time. What universe do you guys live in?
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Posted: 11/2/2016 2:52:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can't believe anybody preorders a firearm related item and actually expects it to ship on time. What universe do you guys live in? |
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Posted: 11/2/2016 2:59:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wasn't exactly expecting them to start shipping in May (the date given when I pre-ordered). I was hoping we would see a few ship before the end of the year. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can't believe anybody preorders a firearm related item and actually expects it to ship on time. What universe do you guys live in? Or at least by the new date their rep stated on video.... |
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Posted: 11/2/2016 3:58:05 PM EDT
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Can't believe anybody preorders a firearm related item and actually expects it to ship on time. What universe do you guys live in? Or at last by the new date their rep stated on video.... Yep, that would be nice. I'll be canceling my preorder if they don't ship any triggers out by the end of the year. They have had my $200 for long enough. |
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Posted: 11/2/2016 8:57:51 PM EDT
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Can't believe anybody preorders a firearm related item and actually expects it to ship on time. What universe do you guys live in? Our butt hurt is legendary at this point |
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Posted: 11/2/2016 10:07:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2016 10:08:52 PM EDT
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Can't believe anybody preorders a firearm related item and actually expects it to ship on time. What universe do you guys live in? Our butt hurt is legendary at this point I'm treating it like an NFA item submitted in 2013 at this point LOL |
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Posted: 11/3/2016 9:05:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That was the owner of the company on the video saying it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Can't believe anybody preorders a firearm related item and actually expects it to ship on time. What universe do you guys live in? Or at last by the new date their rep stated on video.... That was the owner of the company on the video saying it. Did anyone see Franklin's trigger comparison video?  |
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Posted: 11/3/2016 11:39:46 AM EDT
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Wow, that makes it worse, IMHO. Did anyone see Franklin's trigger comparison video?  http://youtu.be/3z7TR-RVNCI
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I compared my gen II against a hiperfire 24 3G the other day. :-) |
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Posted: 11/3/2016 12:37:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I compared my gen II against a hiperfire 24 3G the other day. :-) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I wasn't exactly expecting them to start shipping in May (the date given when I pre-ordered). I was hoping we would see a few ship before the end of the year. Or at last by the new date their rep stated on video.... That was the owner of the company on the video saying it. Wow, that makes it worse, IMHO. Did anyone see Franklin's trigger comparison video? http://youtu.be/3z7TR-RVNCII compared my gen II against a hiperfire 24 3G the other day. :-) Any video on that? I'm wanting to test the 24C. Looks like a sweet trigger, and another member here that's also a follower of our channel has high praises for them. |
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Posted: 11/4/2016 12:06:05 AM EDT
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I will try for some video of it tomorrow but I had a member ask me if I was shooting FA lol. It's one sweet and light trigger (3lbs). I really should do a review on it for my YT channels but the other channels on my network have prevented me from doing to many firearm related videos over the last two years. My hope was to have an ECHO before it mass shipped for a review.
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Posted: 11/4/2016 1:41:12 PM EDT
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I called Fostech today. Trigger under assembly and testing. Looking to ship next week.
That is all I know about it. Hope that helps. Placed order in March and still waiting. Still waiting for Form 1 too, and Form 4, and Noveske to finish my upper. Looks more like a Spring 2017 SBR build than a Fall/Winter 2016 project. FYI: Anyone looking to use Ident Marking Services; they have a FAST turn around this month. |
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Posted: 11/4/2016 6:21:31 PM EDT
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I put my deposit down in January.
This could be sweet. G. |
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Posted: 11/4/2016 11:47:57 PM EDT
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I called Fostech today. Trigger under assembly and testing. Looking to ship next week. That is all I know about it. Hope that helps. Placed order in March and still waiting. Still waiting for Form 1 too, and Form 4, and Noveske to finish my upper. Looks more like a Spring 2017 SBR build than a Fall/Winter 2016 project. FYI: Anyone looking to use Ident Marking Services; they have a FAST turn around this month. I tried calling and no one answered. They are probably very busy. Hope they do start shipments next wekk because I'm looking forward to testing one. Tar Heel firearms is great. Ident Marking went up on price so I tried Tar Heel. It was a very pleasant experience and i highly recommend them. Had firearm back in about a week |
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Posted: 11/10/2016 2:21:16 PM EDT
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Now there charging a 20% fee to cancel the order
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Posted: 11/10/2016 2:30:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/10/2016 3:04:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/10/2016 3:17:21 PM EDT
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Had confirmation they are beginning shipping next week. I paid for mine in full today
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Posted: 11/10/2016 3:21:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Had confirmation they are beginning shipping next week. I paid for mine in full today  |
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Posted: 11/10/2016 3:29:04 PM EDT
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Had confirmation they are beginning shipping next week. I paid for mine in full today
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Posted: 11/10/2016 3:59:59 PM EDT
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I was thinking about ordering a Franklin while they are 10% off for veterans.
Hopefully my Echo will ship before long. |
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Posted: 11/10/2016 4:26:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/10/2016 5:04:25 PM EDT
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When did they add the fee for cancellation? They already changed the terms of my initial order and agreement by not having product to ship when promised. This makes me want to start planning a lawsuit. They better un-fuck themselves and start some deliveries.
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Posted: 11/10/2016 5:21:39 PM EDT
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When did they add the fee for cancellation? They already changed the terms of my initial order and agreement by not having product to ship when promised. This makes me want to start planning a lawsuit. They better un-fuck themselves and start some deliveries. I just notice it today didn't see it a couple weeks ago |
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Posted: 11/10/2016 5:27:09 PM EDT
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Had confirmation they are beginning shipping next week. I paid for mine in full today Did they contact you for the other $279, or did you just pay all at once? How reliable is your source? |
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Posted: 11/10/2016 7:07:55 PM EDT
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Agreed about them needing to unfuck themselves. I've had a deposit in for a long time now and haven't minded the delay too much although they've screwed themselves in terms of goodwill due to poor communication. Seeing this cancellation charge bullshit though has me contemplating cancelling my order and daring them to try to charge me. Someone at Fostech has their head completely up their ass to even contemplate trying that kind of bullshit.
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Posted: 11/10/2016 7:18:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Had confirmation they are beginning shipping next week. I paid for mine in full today http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/105/526/de2.gif I like the new Trump one best :) I'd post it, but I don't want to get this locked. When did you order yours? I ordered in April, around the 11th, IIRC. I'm hoping they ship SOON. |
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Posted: 11/10/2016 8:52:59 PM EDT
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Had confirmation they are beginning shipping next week. I paid for mine in full today Did they contact you for the other $279, or did you just pay all at once? How reliable is your source? I called them to discuss the triggers shipping time etc. Fostech told they will beginning shipping next week. They also said there were not many in front of me (I ordered in March, and I suspect many cancelled due to the delay) so my order would be one of the first ones out. I paid so they would not have to call me again. |
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Posted: 11/10/2016 8:55:53 PM EDT
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http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/105/526/de2.gif I like the new Trump one best :) I'd post it, but I don't want to get this locked. When did you order yours? I ordered in April, around the 11th, IIRC. I'm hoping they ship SOON. i have not seen the one with Trump .lol I ordered in March but it sounds like they had a lot cancel on them. Fostech told me not many were in front of my order and it should go out next week. It made me do the happy dance! |
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Posted: 11/10/2016 9:00:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i have not seen the one with Trump .lol I ordered in March but it sounds like they had a lot cancel on them. Fostech told me not many were in front of my order and it should go out next week. It made me do the happy dance! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Had confirmation they are beginning shipping next week. I paid for mine in full today http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/105/526/de2.gif I like the new Trump one best :) I'd post it, but I don't want to get this locked. When did you order yours? I ordered in April, around the 11th, IIRC. I'm hoping they ship SOON. i have not seen the one with Trump .lol I ordered in March but it sounds like they had a lot cancel on them. Fostech told me not many were in front of my order and it should go out next week. It made me do the happy dance! IM sent  Thanks for the update. I wonder how many orders are in front of mine. |
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Posted: 11/10/2016 9:03:09 PM EDT
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What day in March? I ordered on March 27th.
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Posted: 11/10/2016 9:07:08 PM EDT
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What day in March? I ordered on March 27th. I originally called the order in to talk with Judd about the ECHO for a review on markapsolon and Gunsafe (on YT). I honestly cant remember what day. She did not tell me today either. I'll see if I can find it in my email later tonight |
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Posted: 11/10/2016 9:18:47 PM EDT
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I called them to discuss the triggers shipping time etc. Fostech told they will beginning shipping next week. They also said there were not many in front of me (I ordered in March, and I suspect many cancelled due to the delay) so my order would be one of the first ones out. I paid so they would not have to call me again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Had confirmation they are beginning shipping next week. I paid for mine in full today Did they contact you for the other $279, or did you just pay all at once? How reliable is your source? I called them to discuss the triggers shipping time etc. Fostech told they will beginning shipping next week. They also said there were not many in front of me (I ordered in March, and I suspect many cancelled due to the delay) so my order would be one of the first ones out. I paid so they would not have to call me again. Now you've got me all excited! You do know everyone will be clamoring for you to review and see what the final design is, for a "in the wild" version? 
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Posted: 11/10/2016 9:20:23 PM EDT
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I originally called the order in to talk with Judd about the ECHO for a review on markapsolon and Gunsafe (on YT). I honestly cant remember what day. She did not tell me today either. I'll see if I can find it in my email later tonight Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/10/2016 10:16:33 PM EDT
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Had confirmation they are beginning shipping next week. I paid for mine in full today Did they contact you for the other $279, or did you just pay all at once? How reliable is your source? I called them to discuss the triggers shipping time etc. Fostech told they will beginning shipping next week. They also said there were not many in front of me (I ordered in March, and I suspect many cancelled due to the delay) so my order would be one of the first ones out. I paid so they would not have to call me again. Now you've got me all excited! You do know everyone will be clamoring for you to review and see what the final design is, for a "in the wild" version? There will definitely be a review but before that I'll have pics the day I get it |
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Posted: 11/10/2016 10:18:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/10/2016 11:13:57 PM EDT
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Where are you seeing 10% off for Veterans? Must have been an email as I'm not seeing that on their website.
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Posted: 11/14/2016 10:18:54 AM EDT
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I originally called the order in to talk with Judd about the ECHO for a review on markapsolon and Gunsafe (on YT). I honestly cant remember what day. She did not tell me today either. I'll see if I can find it in my email later tonight Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/14/2016 11:21:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/14/2016 6:49:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I could not find it. I thought I was sent an email but I may have been mistaken.Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What day in March? I ordered on March 27th. I originally called the order in to talk with Judd about the ECHO for a review on markapsolon and Gunsafe (on YT). I honestly cant remember what day. She did not tell me today either. I'll see if I can find it in my email later tonight Any update on your order date? I placed mine on the 27th as well and haven't heard anything. I could not find it. I thought I was sent an email but I may have been mistaken.You're not mistaken, I received a confirmation email after placing my pre-order back in March. I replied to it this morning (their sales@ address) asking if shipments begin this week.... so far, no reply. |
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Posted: 11/15/2016 2:34:08 PM EDT
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Haven't been following this, but you think I could drop this in my PSA AR-9?
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Posted: 11/15/2016 2:37:50 PM EDT
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Haven't been following this, but you think I could drop this in my PSA AR-9? The Franklin binary trigger should work pretty well in your 9mm. |
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Posted: 11/15/2016 3:44:00 PM EDT
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Called Fostech this morning for an update - the first Echo shipped last week to the patent holder the design was based on. They are currently building triggers & setting them aside, 200 are assembled & ready to ship... the hold-up is they are waiting for the clam-shell packaging to arrive. I neglected to ask when this packaging was scheduled to be delivered but was told my pre-order from 03/30 will be in my hands in December. I specifically asked if their ATF letter covers the final design & was told it does. A copy of the letter will be included w/ each trigger. The rep I spoke w/ was very polite, quick to answer all of my questions & was in no rush to get off the phone... seemed like she was shooting straight w/ me. She assured me there are no lingering quality control issues to delay production & that each unit is being tested before shipping.
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Posted: 11/15/2016 4:04:58 PM EDT
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Called Fostech this morning for an update - the first Echo shipped last week to the patent holder the design was based on. They are currently building triggers & setting them aside, 200 are assembled & ready to ship... the hold-up is they are waiting for the clam-shell packaging to arrive. I neglected to ask when this packaging was scheduled to be delivered but was told my pre-order from 03/30 will be in my hands in December. I specifically asked if their ATF letter covers the final design & was told it does. A copy of the letter will be included w/ each trigger. The rep I spoke w/ was very polite, quick to answer all of my questions & was in no rush to get off the phone... seemed like she was shooting straight w/ me. She assured me there are no lingering quality control issues to delay production & that each unit is being tested before shipping. I placed my order on 1/31/2016. I have not been contacted by Fostech to make final payment before delivery. My CC has been replaced so they will not be able to auto charge my old CC. I will post here if and when I am contacted. |
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Posted: 11/15/2016 4:12:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Called Fostech this morning for an update - the first Echo shipped last week to the patent holder the design was based on. They are currently building triggers & setting them aside, 200 are assembled & ready to ship... the hold-up is they are waiting for the clam-shell packaging to arrive. I neglected to ask when this packaging was scheduled to be delivered but was told my pre-order from 03/30 will be in my hands in December. I specifically asked if their ATF letter covers the final design & was told it does. A copy of the letter will be included w/ each trigger. The rep I spoke w/ was very polite, quick to answer all of my questions & was in no rush to get off the phone... seemed like she was shooting straight w/ me. She assured me there are no lingering quality control issues to delay production & that each unit is being tested before shipping. Thanks for the update. |
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