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Posted: 7/31/2009 12:13:28 PM EDT
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$1500 for a fighting rifle?
In no particular order... Bravo Company Colt 6920 Daniel Defense XV or DDM4 LMT Defender I'd buy either what's least expensive for you or the one that has your favorite rollmark. IMO, all four are fantastic rifles. |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 12:15:41 PM EDT
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Quoted: I really like the 6920, but I kinda want a midlength rifle. Is Noveske on par with Colt? I'd suggest for that desire - you get a Larue complete upper for about $1100 and add a quality lower like an LMT. I have that combo, and its the best $1500-ish I spent on any of my rifles. As for the 2nd question - I guess it depends on your application, but I think Noveskes are generally regarded as better than colts. |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 2:25:44 PM EDT
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As mentioned if you must choose from that list Colt is easily #1.
If you want the best rifle for $1500 though look at: Colt BCM Noveske Colt and BCM are your milspec workhorse guns. Extremely reliable and well made. Noveske is more like the Ferrari but I'd trust my life to it any day. Much more ritzy than the pony or BCM. |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 2:38:49 PM EDT
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Easy.... Colt 6940
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Posted: 7/31/2009 2:55:23 PM EDT
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I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet but you should go with the Colt. |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 3:00:07 PM EDT
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If you want good value for your money, look into BCM. Quality is on par w/ Colt & they offer midlengths as well. This. here is the BCM midlength... just get on the email list for when they come in stock BCM BCG, amazingly still in stock BCM Charging handle BCM Lower, if you want to go all BCM or choose another lower and pick a stock Add your choice of handguards and iron sights and you've got a quality gun for a pretty good price. ETA: serves me right for not reading the whole thread first, you've already come to this conclusion. Anyway, there are some links for you. With what I see you have listed, you'll have a great gun. |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 3:29:17 PM EDT
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I would go for the Colt 6040 or the LMT MRP
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Posted: 7/31/2009 3:32:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/31/2009 3:35:45 PM EDT
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With that budget your options are wide open. Colt, LMT, Noveske, BCM, Larue Upper.
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Posted: 7/31/2009 3:40:46 PM EDT
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BCM all the way
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Posted: 7/31/2009 3:45:38 PM EDT
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Yeah, the 6940 or the BCM is what its down to.
Theres 2 different uppers from BCM that I have to choose from. One's in the $400s and the other in the $600s. Im trying to decide which one. |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 3:48:01 PM EDT
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For $1,500
The Robinson Arms XCR 
Check out the specs and what you get then compare that which ever AR you can name. Comes out on tops in almost all ways: *Monolith upper with continuous top rail *folding stock *AK style piston *Wont have to worry about black extractor insert, spring etc. *List goes on and on |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 3:59:32 PM EDT
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I really like the 6920, but I kinda want a midlength rifle. Is Noveske on par with Colt? Wait for a 16" mid from Bravo. They should be in stock shortly, so keep an eye out. $485 shipped $160 for F/A BCG $400 for complete BCM lower shipped and transferred = $1045 for your base AR |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 4:00:44 PM EDT
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I really like the 6920, but I kinda want a midlength rifle. Is Noveske on par with Colt? Wait for a 16" mid from Bravo. They should be in stock shortly, so keep an eye out. $485 shipped $160 for F/A BCG $400 for complete BCM lower shipped and transferred = $1045 for your base AR That's some serious bang for your buck right there. |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 4:04:56 PM EDT
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I really like the 6920, but I kinda want a midlength rifle. Is Noveske on par with Colt? Wait for a 16" mid from Bravo. They should be in stock shortly, so keep an eye out. $485 shipped $160 for F/A BCG $400 for complete BCM lower shipped and transferred = $1045 for your base AR Don't forget a rear sight and charging handle. |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 4:06:44 PM EDT
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I really like the 6920, but I kinda want a midlength rifle. Is Noveske on par with Colt? Wait for a 16" mid from Bravo. They should be in stock shortly, so keep an eye out. $485 shipped $160 for F/A BCG $400 for complete BCM lower shipped and transferred = $1045 for your base AR Don't forget a rear sight and charging handle. +45 for LMT Tactcial CH +140 for Troy BUIS $1240. Still a good buy. |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 4:09:13 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I really like the 6920, but I kinda want a midlength rifle. Is Noveske on par with Colt? Wait for a 16" mid from Bravo. They should be in stock shortly, so keep an eye out. $485 shipped $160 for F/A BCG $400 for complete BCM lower shipped and transferred = $1045 for your base AR Don't forget a rear sight and charging handle. and handguards ~$30? mbus rear sight - $55 bcm ch - ~$30? |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 4:10:53 PM EDT
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I really like the 6920, but I kinda want a midlength rifle. Is Noveske on par with Colt? Wait for a 16" mid from Bravo. They should be in stock shortly, so keep an eye out. $485 shipped $160 for F/A BCG $400 for complete BCM lower shipped and transferred = $1045 for your base AR Don't forget a rear sight and charging handle. and handguards ~$30? mbus rear sight - $55 bcm ch - ~$30? Oven mit is cheaper
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Posted: 7/31/2009 4:15:15 PM EDT
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I really like the 6920, but I kinda want a midlength rifle. Is Noveske on par with Colt? Wait for a 16" mid from Bravo. They should be in stock shortly, so keep an eye out. $485 shipped $160 for F/A BCG $400 for complete BCM lower shipped and transferred = $1045 for your base AR He may not need handguards if he wants a rail. A CMT charging handle is $20 A quality BUIS is $100 at most if researched well. E-bay and the EE can provide that price. $1165 for base AR The difference to $1500 will get the rail and mags. + some ammo. Of course, this price could come down by $75-100 with a "Franken" built lower. Which is what I would do. |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 4:35:42 PM EDT
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So you guys recommend the BCM upper that is in the $400s?
i want a rail system, but I can get that later. Ill be fine with the basic hand guard for the first few months. and with the money Ill save building the BCM Ill be able to go to Impact and get 1000 rounds of Wolf .223 ammunition. Heres the final setup(most likely) BCM Upper BCM Lower BCM BCG BCM Charging Handle Troy Rear Sight Magpul PMAGs Handguard |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 4:44:52 PM EDT
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So you guys recommend the BCM upper that is in the $400s? i want a rail system, but I can get that later. Ill be fine with the basic hand guard for the first few months. and with the money Ill save building the BCM Ill be able to go to Impact and get 1000 rounds of Wolf .223 ammunition. Heres the final setup(most likely) BCM Upper BCM Lower BCM BCG BCM Charging Handle Troy Rear Sight Magpul PMAGs Handguard Sounds like one fine AR! |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 5:06:46 PM EDT
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So you guys recommend the BCM upper that is in the $400s? i want a rail system, but I can get that later. Ill be fine with the basic hand guard for the first few months. and with the money Ill save building the BCM Ill be able to go to Impact and get 1000 rounds of Wolf .223 ammunition. Heres the final setup(most likely) BCM Upper BCM Lower BCM BCG BCM Charging Handle Troy Rear Sight Magpul PMAGs Handguard We have a winner!!!! (most likely) 
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Posted: 7/31/2009 5:20:54 PM EDT
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$1225! + shipping!
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Posted: 7/31/2009 5:22:35 PM EDT
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So you guys recommend the BCM upper that is in the $400s? i want a rail system, but I can get that later. Ill be fine with the basic hand guard for the first few months. and with the money Ill save building the BCM Ill be able to go to Impact and get 1000 rounds of Wolf .223 ammunition. Heres the final setup(most likely) BCM Upper BCM Lower BCM BCG BCM Charging Handle Troy Rear Sight Magpul PMAGs Handguard Winner! |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 5:33:48 PM EDT
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Colt. Noveske if you want to spend some more. What makes Noveske so good? |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 5:53:32 PM EDT
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Colt. Noveske if you want to spend some more. What makes Noveske so good? The barrel is the main factor. |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 6:09:44 PM EDT
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I'd like to add a forth member to your list. Larue Tactical
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Posted: 7/31/2009 6:13:35 PM EDT
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If I were you Id buy the colt if I could find a 14.5" colt M4 barrel to throw onto it, 16" M4 barrels looks silly IMO. Id save a little more and buy a Larue Stealth DMR-16 upper and build up a Stealth lower to match it.
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Posted: 7/31/2009 6:13:45 PM EDT
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$1225! + shipping! I have to tell you, I LOVE trying to spend your money...... Another scenario... $1000 shipped - Noveske Upper .....BUIS, handguards, CH and BCG included. $400 - BCM complete lower (or equivalent)..shipped and transferred Just to think about..... 
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Posted: 7/31/2009 6:20:27 PM EDT
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If I were you Id buy the colt if I could find a 14.5" colt M4 barrel to throw onto it, 16" M4 barrels looks silly IMO. Id save a little more and buy a Larue Stealth DMR-16 upper and build up a Stealth lower to match it. The Colt 6921 is the 14.5" M4 barreled version. Factory SBR. |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 6:25:34 PM EDT
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one of these: LaRue stealth 16inch upper $1100 RRA Lower W/CAA Buttstock and RRA LPK $270 Hogue Grip $20 Magpul BUIS $100 Grand Total $1490 savings of $10 for a "ferrari of ar's" 
oh yea $25 bucks for the front grip  http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss28/chadwick76/DSC_1714.jpgHow much does this rifle weigh empty? With a full 30rd mag? not sure, but it is my heaviest 16inch i own, but also the most accurate. the weight i believe is mostly in the heavy barrel, shoots great! |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 6:28:02 PM EDT
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So you guys recommend the BCM upper that is in the $400s? i want a rail system, but I can get that later. Ill be fine with the basic hand guard for the first few months. and with the money Ill save building the BCM Ill be able to go to Impact and get 1000 rounds of Wolf .223 ammunition. Heres the final setup(most likely) BCM Upper BCM Lower BCM BCG BCM Charging Handle Troy Rear Sight Magpul PMAGs Handguard We have a winner!!!! (most likely)
+1 Doesn't get better than that! Have you decided between the carbine or midlength BCM upper yet? I prefer middies on 16" barrels but either choice is still excellent. Let us know when you get it (most likely) and make sure to include pics! |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 6:44:28 PM EDT
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So you guys recommend the BCM upper that is in the $400s? i want a rail system, but I can get that later. Ill be fine with the basic hand guard for the first few months. and with the money Ill save building the BCM Ill be able to go to Impact and get 1000 rounds of Wolf .223 ammunition. Heres the final setup(most likely) BCM Upper BCM Lower BCM BCG BCM Charging Handle Troy Rear Sight Magpul PMAGs Handguard We have a winner!!!! (most likely)
+1 Doesn't get better than that! Have you decided between the carbine or midlength BCM upper yet? I prefer middies on 16" barrels but either choice is still excellent. Let us know when you get it (most likely) and make sure to include pics! I want the middlength for sure. If I get this job then i should have the gun in a couple months. |
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Posted: 7/31/2009 7:03:02 PM EDT
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Excellent choice. Don't forget some pics when you get it slapped together.
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Posted: 8/1/2009 1:04:45 AM EDT
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imho, if you are wanting rails, get the bcm upper that is ss, 16" middy w/ the dd rails - already installed and g2g. it is quite an expensive upper but i have asked bcm to make an upper that is the same but w/ the yhm lightweight rails and they said they were too busy. imho, that would make for an ideal, moderately priced hella accurate upper. if bcm made a 16" ss 1:7, 1:8 middy w/ the yhm lightweight rails one would be in my possession as soon as i could get my hands on one. i can buy the parts to put one together and may do that but i think bcm needs to know that not everybody needs a dd/larue/samson/mi/insert high dollar rail here. yhm works plenty good for 90%+ of the shooters here.
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Posted: 8/1/2009 5:05:22 AM EDT
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That BCM set-up will be a great option. I'd bet you'd have a couple hundred left to put towards a decent set of railed handguards to boot.
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Posted: 8/1/2009 5:51:53 AM EDT
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That BCM set-up will be a great option. I'd bet you'd have a couple hundred left to put towards a decent set of railed handguards to boot. Have one (actually 3) and they are great. One carbine middy gas - the other two are carbines through and through (I think) Bought 2, acquired one in a trade. It has the DD Rail so I'd have to look close to see if it's a Carbine or Middy. |
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Posted: 8/1/2009 6:07:56 AM EDT
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That BCM set-up will be a great option. I'd bet you'd have a couple hundred left to put towards a decent set of railed handguards to boot. Have one (actually 3) and they are great. One carbine middy gas - the other two are carbines through and through (I think) Bought 2, acquired one in a trade. It has the DD Rail so I'd have to look close to see if it's a Carbine or Middy. Got 2 myself, a middy and a carbine length, love em. |
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Posted: 8/1/2009 6:29:16 AM EDT
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All ARs are sweet ... but when I was looking, I always came back to the Smith & Wesson AR15T ... The tactical package adds a lot of goodies and then you package that with the reliability of S&W all for approx. $1260 shipped from Bud's .....
You can always add to this platform ... but it's just a great all around "bang" for you buck as it sits ... Hope you find exactly what you're looking for ... best of luck ... |
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Posted: 8/1/2009 8:49:14 AM EDT
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Colts are around at about $1100 - so if that's what you want . . .
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Posted: 8/1/2009 9:23:01 AM EDT
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Have a Colt Sp, bought around 1980 for $380.00. Upgraded to a GSE A2M4 $1195.00. Very well built, tight and accurate. Mostly I am into long distance shooting 600yrds plus and my M4 just won't do the job.
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