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Posted: 11/4/2018 10:33:03 PM EDT
Recently upon my travels, I found a pristine MAK for quite the little deal. I've been in the market to replace my SGL that I sold during one of the panics 4 or 5 years ago. The question is, are MAK's in this condition rare or collectible that I should trade or sell it for a less collectible model or should I just get a Ironwood set and run it like a raped ape?
I'm not one for keeping things unfired, but I understand it may be a faux pas to sodden an unfired rifle. 
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Posted: 11/4/2018 10:49:25 PM EDT
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My Cabela's never gets neat stuff like that
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Posted: 11/4/2018 10:51:53 PM EDT
[#2]
Jeebus. The thumbhole stock.
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Posted: 11/4/2018 11:09:15 PM EDT
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I would sell it and buy a vector or arsenal ak before I would spend more money unfucking it.
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Posted: 11/5/2018 12:53:40 AM EDT
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My Mak 90 looked just like that when I bought it in 1990 something or other. After the ban sunsetted I gradually modified it into it current config. It has a poly two-piece forend, the MagPul Zhukov stock, the ALG AK trigger with shepherd crook fcg retainer, threaded for A2 flash hider, and an Ultimak rail with Primary Arms MD-06 red dot.
It is NOT A CLONE. It is just a totally reliable blaster, hd, shtf gun that I trust my life with. I can hit anything I need to hit within 200 yards or so. Completely meets my needs for its purposes, as do many other guns I had before the boating accident. Ironwood furniture would be a nice touch for an upscale rifle. Black poly standard configured furniture looks really nice also. Look at some pics online and see what appeals to you. |
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Posted: 11/5/2018 1:08:47 AM EDT
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Mine looked just like that 25 years ago when I bought it. Now it’s an underfolder. I personally wouldn’t worry about devaluing it by shooting it or changing parts, but if you’re concerned about that you could try selling it for a collector price and see if someone bites- then buy something more “shooter grade” and pocket the difference. They’re great AKs and finding one in that condition is pretty uncommon.
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Posted: 11/5/2018 1:13:54 AM EDT
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Convert it and run it!!
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Posted: 11/5/2018 1:17:05 AM EDT
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Sell and purchase 3 PSA AKs. <removed, this is not GD>dryflash3
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Posted: 11/5/2018 1:27:34 AM EDT
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This is a Mak underfolder I converted this weekend. Still have to put a bakelite upper on it, a Chinese barrel nut, and instal the sight post, fsb retaining pins, and detent, but it’s almost finished. I’d have a converted Mak over 3 PSA’s any day. But I wouldn’t have a PSA either way. I’d also forfeit the extra $300 that it would bring being NIB over a used one just to be the one to break it in. Again, convert it and shoot it! |
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Posted: 11/5/2018 9:34:40 AM EDT
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I'm not aware of any firearms that were ever built with the intention they would sit in a bag in a box and never be fired.
In fact I do believe every firearm ever made on the entire planet was always intended to be fired. Jay Leno has a McLaren F1 which is likely worth 15-20 million dollars. He drives that thing all the time. A man should not acquire toys and then forbid himself to actually play with them from time to time. Cars, guns, hookers.....don't put 'em on a pedestal.  Of course, if you only want to own it so you can take artsy photos of it and rub it with an oily diaper (Ferris Bueller reference only, not insinuating you actually WOULD do that) there's an AK Forum on the Net where that's pretty well the norm. 
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Posted: 11/5/2018 10:26:53 AM EDT
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I would sell it and buy a vector or arsenal ak before I would spend more money unfucking it. |
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Posted: 11/5/2018 10:35:12 AM EDT
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Just shoot it OP and make it yours. I dont think we are anywhere near having to consider MAKs an endangered species. Even if they are in unfired condition.
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Posted: 11/5/2018 11:09:40 AM EDT
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Millions of 'em were sold during the 90s. They're nowhere near "rare".
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Posted: 11/5/2018 12:17:45 PM EDT
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I have a Poly Spiker and a GSAD underdolder, both were BNIB unfired when I got them. I shoot the shit out of them. I have 2 unbanned MAK’s I shoot just as much. I have guns because I enjoy shooting them as much as collecting. I collect them so I can shoot them, not to possibly sell in the future.
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Posted: 11/5/2018 1:18:33 PM EDT
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Nothing with "ban features" will ever really be that collectable. Used and debanned its worth more than nib with stupid thumbhole stock.
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Posted: 11/5/2018 1:29:02 PM EDT
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I have a Poly Spiker and a GSAD underdolder, both were BNIB unfired when I got them. I shoot the shit out of them. I have 2 unbanned MAK’s I shoot just as much. I have guns because I enjoy shooting them as much as collecting. I collect them so I can shoot them, not to possibly sell in the future. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/253119/FE495FF4-BF1D-4C0B-B603-52E9843649A6_jpeg-728660.JPG |
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Posted: 11/5/2018 2:20:18 PM EDT
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Millions of 'em were sold during the 90s. They're nowhere near "rare". |
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Posted: 11/5/2018 2:23:21 PM EDT
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The MAK 90 is not a collectible AK. But its probably better than most AK's made today. Get an Ironwoods pistol grip, & butt stock, & shoot the snot out of it. GARY
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Posted: 11/5/2018 3:05:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
The MAK 90 is not a collectible AK. But its probably better than most AK's made today. Get an Ironwoods pistol grip, & butt stock, & shoot the snot out of it. GARY I think debanned Mak 90's and Mak 90's in general are going to start going up quite a bit in price. Everything else is. It's surprising we haven't already saw a huge increase with the Mak's. Seems as soon as someone mentions sanctions, any AK affected goes up $1,000+. |
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Posted: 11/5/2018 3:34:51 PM EDT
[#19]
Straight cut? Leave it alone.
Angle cut? Nobody cares. |
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Posted: 11/5/2018 7:14:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
My Cabela's never gets neat stuff like that 
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Posted: 11/5/2018 7:28:00 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Recently upon my travels, I found a pristine MAK for quite the little deal. I've been in the market to replace my SGL that I sold during one of the panics 4 or 5 years ago. The question is, are MAK's in this condition rare or collectible that I should trade or sell it for a less collectible model or should I just get a Ironwood set and run it like a raped ape? I'm not one for keeping things unfired, but I understand it may be a faux pas to sodden an unfired rifle. https://i.imgur.com/rNRVc02.jpg https://i.imgur.com/UDLF6bQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/CVepREl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/1dmzJyG.jpg https://i.imgur.com/b77u6Ea.jpg https://i.imgur.com/IF6ec1O.jpg https://i.imgur.com/luqCf2A.jpg It's a neutered MAK90...nothing special. Here is my type2 that is worth roughly 20 times what that MAK90 cost and I shoot the shit out of it. I say that because I just watch a completely non-matching gun go for just about that. But it only cost me about $500. 
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Posted: 11/5/2018 7:29:36 PM EDT
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Toss a rear stock (Chinese due to the 1.5mm thick receiver),add a fat Polytech wood pistol grip,a longer standard pistol grip bolt, and run the dog shit out of it like it is.
Mak90's are a dime a dozen and wont really be a collectable. $400 is a steal,go sling some steel cased ammo and enjoy |
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Posted: 11/5/2018 7:32:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The one near me sells stuff at a percentage of whatever they paid for them. I get good buys all the time. https://i.imgur.com/BjNZlx2.jpg |
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Posted: 11/5/2018 7:33:57 PM EDT
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http://i.imgur.com/4VboZWVl.jpg This is a Mak underfolder I converted this weekend. Still have to put a bakelite upper on it, a Chinese barrel nut, and instal the sight post, fsb retaining pins, and detent, but it’s almost finished. I’d have a converted Mak over 3 PSA’s any day. But I wouldn’t have a PSA either way. I’d also forfeit the extra $300 that it would bring being NIB over a used one just to be the one to break it in. Again, convert it and shoot it! |
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Posted: 11/5/2018 9:04:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is a nice looking rifle. Is the barrel a heavier version then other AK-style weapons? It looks thicker. |
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Posted: 11/5/2018 10:35:28 PM EDT
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Straight cut? Leave it alone. Angle cut? Nobody cares. |
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Posted: 11/5/2018 10:52:46 PM EDT
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Being that it is unfired and new in box, I would not modify that rifle. If it just just another Mak90 used and without original packaging thats a different story. Mak90s might not "rare" but seeing them NIB for that price is a rare sight. I personally would just keep it as is or sell it to a collector.
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Posted: 11/5/2018 11:23:57 PM EDT
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What's special about it is its a 100% AK-factory made rifle from a country that used AKs in its military. This is something that we took for granted at one time but is no longer available under the current laws. I would probably put a stock and pistol grip on it but make NO permanent changes, and keep the original stuff. Its like someone in China being able to buy a semi-auto Colt AR15, then their laws change and all imported guns must have a Chinese barrel and other parts. Given a choice, you would want the factory-made Colt over some cobbled-together clone. Same with the AKs.
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Posted: 11/5/2018 11:39:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The advantage of a straight cut is that you can easily get rid of the atrocious thumbhole stock, if youre leaving the abomination attached, why would it matter Nobody cares about an angle cut. |
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Posted: 11/5/2018 11:54:54 PM EDT
[#30]
I modified (chopped and pinned the barrel and what not too) on a well used transitional mak I Found on the used rack of a big box store.
If I had one like yours with everything including the original box I would keep it original, except swapping the thumbhole for a clean type 56 wood stock and fat chinese grip to match. |
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Posted: 11/6/2018 9:37:16 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That is a nice looking rifle. Is the barrel a heavier version then other AK-style weapons? It looks thicker. Sorry to hijack the thread. After doing my first conversion and realizing how easy it is, I just feel like more people could and should be doing it. You can end up with a much better rifle than most, if not all, current offerings. I think the OP’s Mak is a slant cut due to the absence of the Norinco stamp on the side of the receiver above the trigger (I just noticed that). I could be wrong though. If it is, I’d either flip it for a profit or keep it for a later sell. You can convert a slant cut, but straight cuts are more desirable as mentioned. |
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Posted: 11/6/2018 9:02:36 PM EDT
[#32]
MAK-90s are one of the better made AKs that came into the US, as sad as that is.
Because they are so well-made for an AK, they shoot better, have sights that can actually be zeroed, and will fit a lot of mags. The bolt carrier and bolt on Norincos are in their own class compared to Warsaw Pact AKs. There are AKs that should be way more valuable, but because of their lack of quality, their value hasn't increased like MAK-90s have. MAK-90s are selling for $1200-$1800 now, and if you have all the original box and paperwork, mags, oil bottle, cleaning kit, that only helps with value. ETA: If you are going to modify any part of a MAK-90 permanently, I think an underfolder spike bayonet Type 56 with correct furniture is the best way to have both a shootable rifle, as well as one that will only increase in value because that is the configuration they are supposed to be in. 
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Posted: 11/8/2018 8:25:32 PM EDT
[#33]
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The MAK 90 is not a collectible AK. But its probably better than most AK's made today. Get an Ironwoods pistol grip, & butt stock, & shoot the snot out of it. GARY |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 8:46:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
MAK-90s are one of the better made AKs that came into the US, as sad as that is. Because they are so well-made for an AK, they shoot better, have sights that can actually be zeroed, and will fit a lot of mags. The bolt carrier and bolt on Norincos are in their own class compared to Warsaw Pact AKs. There are AKs that should be way more valuable, but because of their lack of quality, their value hasn't increased like MAK-90s have. MAK-90s are selling for $1200-$1800 now, and if you have all the original box and paperwork, mags, oil bottle, cleaning kit, that only helps with value. ETA: If you are going to modify any part of a MAK-90 permanently, I think an underfolder spike bayonet Type 56 with correct furniture is the best way to have both a shootable rifle, as well as one that will only increase in value because that is the configuration they are supposed to be in. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/Norinco_type_56.jpg |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 7:24:01 AM EDT
[#35]
Sell it and get something you won't feel bad about beating and hacking on. That's how I do it. I had a lot of really nice Chicoms… and sold them. Best moves I ever made.
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Posted: 11/17/2018 8:35:11 AM EDT
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I bought one still in the box with everything simply because it was $300. Unfortunately my eyes and the rear sight don't work well together so there it sits to this day. actually does seem to be quite well put together though. I think it's a straight cut.
Box is in so so shape. I drag it out on occasion and wonder if I just need to dump it along with my tinned ammo that was no longer allowed to be imported. [Yugo?] I will likely never shoot it. |
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Posted: 11/19/2018 11:24:27 AM EDT
[#37]
I would unban it and shoot it. I did that with mine. I paid $229 new back in 91 and still have it and shoot it. I was able to get Chinese parts to unban it with.
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Posted: 11/19/2018 5:43:10 PM EDT
[#38]
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I would unban it and shoot it. I did that with mine. I paid $229 new back in 91 and still have it and shoot it. I was able to get Chinese parts to unban it with. I've got the stock set switched out to an ironwood now. New sight base I know, but what about the gas block? |
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Posted: 11/19/2018 8:53:21 PM EDT
[#39]
Polytech
They have the spiker FSB. Looks like the only way to get a gas block and regular FSB is to buy a barrel assembly. If you find them elsewhere you punch out the pins and press off the parts and reverse for installation. |
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Posted: 11/20/2018 11:37:12 AM EDT
[#40]
I have 3 MAK's. 2 milled, & 1 stamped. The stamped gun with a square back receiver, I was able to find an original Chinese butt stock, & pistol grip to match the front wood. On one of the milled guns, I ordered an Ironwods butt stock to match the front wood, & found an original pistol grip. On the second milled gun, I left it bone stock. I left the muzzles, gas blocks, & front sites untouched, as there are many photos of Chinese military AK's in the hands of Chinese soldiers that do not have threaded muzzles, or bayo lugs. It seems these features were added to guns the Chinese exported to other countries. So why waste $ threading a barrel, changing a gas block, & front site. GARY
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Posted: 11/20/2018 12:31:02 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ordered a full Ironwood set earlier in the week. It shipped out today. I'm assuming all the hardware on the handguard will transfer over. Do I need a different grip screw or anything for the stock that doesn't come with them? If it is a straight cut receiver, then the Ironwood stock will mate up fine - you may have to fit it a bit though. I do recommend not changing the trigger, Chinese stock triggers are usually very nice with no slap. |
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Posted: 11/20/2018 5:47:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I have 3 MAK's. 2 milled, & 1 stamped. The stamped gun with a square back receiver, I was able to find an original Chinese butt stock, & pistol grip to match the front wood. On one of the milled guns, I ordered an Ironwods butt stock to match the front wood, & found an original pistol grip. On the second milled gun, I left it bone stock. I left the muzzles, gas blocks, & front sites untouched, as there are many photos of Chinese military AK's in the hands of Chinese soldiers that do not have threaded muzzles, or bayo lugs. It seems these features were added to guns the Chinese exported to other countries. So why waste $ threading a barrel, changing a gas block, & front site. GARY |
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Posted: 11/20/2018 6:01:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I knew that was the case with muzzle, but I didn't know that was the case with the other features. Good to know Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have 3 MAK's. 2 milled, & 1 stamped. The stamped gun with a square back receiver, I was able to find an original Chinese butt stock, & pistol grip to match the front wood. On one of the milled guns, I ordered an Ironwods butt stock to match the front wood, & found an original pistol grip. On the second milled gun, I left it bone stock. I left the muzzles, gas blocks, & front sites untouched, as there are many photos of Chinese military AK's in the hands of Chinese soldiers that do not have threaded muzzles, or bayo lugs. It seems these features were added to guns the Chinese exported to other countries. So why waste $ threading a barrel, changing a gas block, & front site. GARY |
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Posted: 11/20/2018 9:30:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not sure it is. N4KVE, do you have pics of military Chinese AK's without bayonet lugs? |
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Posted: 11/20/2018 10:20:05 PM EDT
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Not today, but I've seen plenty over the years. GARY |
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Posted: 11/21/2018 12:32:17 PM EDT
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I don't see the lug here unless my eyes are failing me. Sucks to get old. LOL. GARY
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Syrian_soldier_aims_an_AK-47.JPEG |
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Posted: 11/21/2018 3:53:42 PM EDT
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I don't see the lug here unless my eyes are failing me. Sucks to get old. LOL. GARY https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Syrian_soldier_aims_an_AK-47.JPEG |
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Posted: 11/21/2018 10:51:04 PM EDT
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See, I was looking for the common bayo lug under the gas block. But notice how the muzzle is not threaded, & no spring loaded flash hider pin, just like on the MAK. I just change the butt stock, pistol grip, & leave the rest alone. GARY
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