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Posted: 5/18/2018 5:01:28 PM EDT
I need help from the AK gun master race.

Coming from the AR world I know pretty much nothing about AK's.

Looking to buy an AK47 with a max budget of $850.

ETA - Would like the ability to add optics.

Edit, there are no "trashcan guns" here in this AK forum.
That's a term used by the heritics in GD. Please leave it there. dryflash3
Link Posted: 5/18/2018 7:29:20 PM EDT
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Call Jim at Rifle Dynamics.
Link Posted: 5/18/2018 8:56:47 PM EDT
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I doubt that he'll be able to touch anything by Rifle Dynamics for $850. OP, get a WASR-10 and you'll have an AKM made in a military factory and have money left over.
Link Posted: 5/18/2018 9:58:42 PM EDT
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I doubt that he'll be able to touch anything by Rifle Dynamics for $850. OP, get a WASR-10 and you'll have an AKM made in a military factory and have money left over.
Yeah Rifle Dynamics is way out of my budget for an AK. Definitely was considering a WASR after watching a few ak operators union videos.
Link Posted: 5/18/2018 11:02:51 PM EDT
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Buy a Wasr, steel surplus mags, and some steel case from sgammo.com
Link Posted: 5/19/2018 7:18:25 AM EDT
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WASR, NPAP, or add a few more bucks to the pot and pick up an Arsenal, which is what I'd recommend.

http://www.k-var.com/arsenal-slr-107r-762x39-semi-auto-rifle-with-1625-inch-threaded-barrel-stamped-receiver
Link Posted: 5/19/2018 7:30:55 AM EDT
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You should join the true master race and go 5.45
Link Posted: 5/19/2018 8:03:17 AM EDT
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As others have said. Wasr, mags, and ammo.
Link Posted: 5/19/2018 8:17:05 AM EDT
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+1 Wasr, mags and ammo
Link Posted: 5/19/2018 8:50:52 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/19/2018 8:56:26 AM EDT
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Arsenal AKs are considered “best” and the SLR -107R is $850. WASR is also great rifle but overpriced right now @ $700. They used to sell for like $500 2 years ago and $300 before Obama.

Buy Golden Tiger ammo from SGammo.com. It’s the most accurate ammo and hard to come by. Sam is selling it at or below cost right now to make room.

PSA Gen 2 AK47 has very good reviews and is actually built by DDI. It’s a steal at $499 but it’s not a “genuine combloc” rifle like the WASR or SLR-107R

ETA: Buy cheap, stack deep.
Link Posted: 5/19/2018 11:25:16 AM EDT
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Thanks everyone for the help! I ended up picking up a new WASR for $663.

Will be turning it into a Russian "Alpha AK"

Appreciate the ammo recommendations also and I'm buying some now!

Besides range ammo, what is everyone running for "defensive" ammo?
Link Posted: 5/19/2018 1:43:12 PM EDT
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Defensive ammo discussion... https://www.ar15.com/forums/AK-47/7-62x39-Home-defense-ammo/54-163251/

Kind of depends on your budget, but these seem to be most popular...8M3 "Effect", Federal Fusion, Winchester PDX-1 Defender, Hornady SST.
Link Posted: 5/19/2018 1:58:20 PM EDT
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8m3 is definitely my choice for 7.62
Link Posted: 5/19/2018 4:10:25 PM EDT
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WASR as others have said.
Link Posted: 5/19/2018 7:14:23 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/19/2018 8:34:11 PM EDT
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That's a solid price on a WASR these days.

Now make with the pics!
Link Posted: 5/21/2018 8:57:28 AM EDT
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yes we need the pics..
Link Posted: 5/21/2018 7:12:14 PM EDT
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Shipped today but I got you guys! Thanks again everyone, you've guys helped a lot. That's why I love this place!
Link Posted: 5/26/2018 7:21:33 PM EDT
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Here you go fellas. I'm impressed with this WASR. Sights weren't canted, receiver was good and rail mount was also level. All serial numbers matched too. Don't mind the background, literally just picked it up yesterday and made it down to my time share in the Outer Banks today. So yeah, those are not my tacky ass bed sheets lmao.

This AK will be getting a full makeover.
Link Posted: 5/26/2018 8:17:51 PM EDT
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Congratulations and good luck with it.
Link Posted: 5/26/2018 8:47:42 PM EDT
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Thanks brother.

Hoping I can count the malfunctions on one hand after 10,000rds just like AKOU.
Link Posted: 5/26/2018 10:22:16 PM EDT
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https://preview.ibb.co/kATe0o/E3_F6_EFCC_A741_4_C7_E_88_F9_74_A633_B7_B462.jpg

Here you go fellas. I'm impressed with this WASR. Sights weren't canted, receiver was good and rail mount was also level. All serial numbers matched too. Don't mind the background, literally just picked it up yesterday and made it down to my time share in the Outer Banks today. So yeah, those are not my tacky ass bed sheets lmao.

This AK will be getting a full makeover.
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I was wondering how you got a WASR in Japan.  Congrats on the rifle, I wish like hell I still had my SAR-1.
Link Posted: 5/27/2018 1:26:02 AM EDT
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P.S. If you want extra special AK POWA, buy a Bulgy 5.45 in the near future. You will love it :)
Link Posted: 5/27/2018 10:37:07 AM EDT
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Lol. I went to middle school/high school and college over there on base, so pretty much grew up over there.

If this wasr was jacked up I was just going to pay a little more for an arsenal but I'm happy with what I got. Thanks!
Link Posted: 5/27/2018 10:38:19 AM EDT
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5.45 is in my future

This is just the beginning to my commie collection
Link Posted: 5/27/2018 7:15:12 PM EDT
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Grab a Draco while they're still reasonably priced.

I wish I got some when they were under 400.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 4:02:27 AM EDT
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Source for Bulgy AK74?
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 4:25:20 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/28/2018 7:30:23 AM EDT
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Now add an M92 and a tax stamp to your list OP:
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Link Posted: 5/28/2018 12:14:27 PM EDT
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That's something that would be cheaper to build at this point (if you already have the tools) than buy, which is surprising.
Link Posted: 5/28/2018 2:23:02 PM EDT
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That's something that would be cheaper to build at this point (if you already have the tools) than buy, which is surprising.
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That's something that would be cheaper to build at this point (if you already have the tools) than buy, which is surprising.


I have neither the tools nor the inclination to be completely honest.
Link Posted: 5/29/2018 11:02:44 PM EDT
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Does anyone know where I can find the right size cleaning rod for my WASR?

Also a good place for good cheap mags?

Feel free to PM me
Link Posted: 5/30/2018 1:31:00 PM EDT
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AKs are like potato chips, you can't have just one!
Link Posted: 5/30/2018 11:10:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/31/2018 8:22:10 AM EDT
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WASR-10
Link Posted: 6/7/2018 9:04:16 PM EDT
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Does anyone know where I can find the right size cleaning rod for my WASR?

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Google Robert rtg
Link Posted: 6/21/2018 5:39:45 PM EDT
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Guess I'll post a little update on my way to cloning an a "Alpha AK"

TWS dog leg gen 3 installed today. Magpul grip holding it down for now, feels wayyyy better than the standard grip.

Link Posted: 6/25/2018 3:17:24 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/26/2018 9:07:16 AM EDT
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Guess I'll post a little update on my way to cloning an a "Alpha AK"

TWS dog leg gen 3 installed today. Magpul grip holding it down for now, feels wayyyy better than the standard grip.

https://preview.ibb.co/iMn8Eo/5_CE93_CF0_1982_4_C87_A48_F_13393_F46_A409.jpg
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You gonna go for the Zenit rails?
Link Posted: 6/26/2018 7:58:56 PM EDT
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Always tring to corrupt the new guy arnt ya.
Link Posted: 6/26/2018 9:04:56 PM EDT
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Absolutely.

Keeping my eye out for a used set but will probably be forced to buy new.

Need to search and see if we have an alpha ak thread here.
Link Posted: 7/22/2018 10:47:22 AM EDT
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Making a little progress. Installing a ALG trigger later today... Still got a ways to go... Optic, grip, vfg, muzzle device, barrel chop, fs/gb combo and paint or cerakote.



Can anyone help identify this vfg?

Link Posted: 7/22/2018 2:41:04 PM EDT
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Ok, I gotta ask... If your intention from the beginning was to slap $500+ in rails on the rifle, why limit yourself to a WASR? Don’t get me wrong the WASR is a solid and often underrated rifle, but if you’re shooting for an Alpha clone and swapping out internals, you’re probably looking at another $1000 in add ons when all is said and done, and cost doesn’t seem a big consideration for you except on the rifle itself. Seems you’d have been better off staring off with an Arsenal or saving for a Rifle Dynamics or Krebs rifle and building up from there. You’re going cheap on the rifle and all out on the accessories and in the end if you have accuracy issues or any other problems you’re going to wish you’d spent more on the rifle and less on the rails.
Link Posted: 7/22/2018 2:49:21 PM EDT
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Making a little progress. Installing a ALG trigger later today... Still got a ways to go... Optic, grip, vfg, muzzle device, barrel chop, fs/gb combo and paint or cerakote.

https://preview.ibb.co/jBhtPJ/DD7338_F5_8931_48_BC_BE0_B_111_C52_B49066.jpg

Can anyone help identify this vfg?

https://preview.ibb.co/kpHN3d/100_CD68_D_DFAC_4956_8291_29_F74459003_A.jpg
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No idea, but it’s about the same size as the BCM.
Link Posted: 7/23/2018 5:47:12 PM EDT
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Ok, I gotta ask... If your intention from the beginning was to slap $500+ in rails on the rifle, why limit yourself to a WASR? Don’t get me wrong the WASR is a solid and often underrated rifle, but if you’re shooting for an Alpha clone and swapping out internals, you’re probably looking at another $1000 in add ons when all is said and done, and cost doesn’t seem a big consideration for you except on the rifle itself. Seems you’d have been better off staring off with an Arsenal or saving for a Rifle Dynamics or Krebs rifle and building up from there. You’re going cheap on the rifle and all out on the accessories and in the end if you have accuracy issues or any other problems you’re going to wish you’d spent more on the rifle and less on the rails.
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LOL

This guy. Triggered???

WASR is just fine. Check out Robs video on it.

Also here..

https://www.ar15.com/forums/ak-47/AK_abuse__home_built_version_update_on_Page_6_/64-159106/?page=1

They have yet to shoot out the barrel on it. I'm perfectly fine with it I'll leave the accuracy to my AR'S and precision rifles.

ETA also... This stuff can be taken off and switched if I ever had a problem. Gotta love the hate on the mighty WASR. But muhh dimpless

Went with it for its solid track record. I don't plan on shooting close to 80,000-100,000 rounds
Link Posted: 7/23/2018 6:00:05 PM EDT
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No idea, but it’s about the same size as the BCM.
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Thanks for trying but definitely not bcm..

Unfortunately it might be a tapco
Link Posted: 7/23/2018 6:03:42 PM EDT
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Thanks for trying but definitely not bcm..

Unfortunately it might be a tapco
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No, it’s obviously not a BCM. I just figured that the BCM would be a decent choice if you wanted a similar grip.

That’s what I’d use if it were mine.
Link Posted: 7/23/2018 6:10:32 PM EDT
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No, it’s obviously not a BCM. I just figured that the BCM would be a decent choice if you wanted a similar grip.

That’s what I’d use if it were mine.
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Gotta magpul shorty on it right now that I had laying around. Was just trying to get as close as I could to the fsb  A team guys setup.

Eta-
Better pic


Link Posted: 7/23/2018 6:34:54 PM EDT
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Gotta magpul shorty on it right now that I had laying around. Was just trying to get as close as I could to the fsb  A team guys setup.

Eta-
Better pic
https://preview.ibb.co/goNXOo/D0_ADD48_A_F699_47_A9_A315_E7_D50_D05_CDC2.jpg

https://preview.ibb.co/gxs7Oo/BCC5_A455_8636_4207_8_E6_D_15213_C39_A514.png
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To be fair, that rifle is different from yours in almost every way.

Not a dig at all, just saying that you don’t need to get hung up on one part IMO.
Link Posted: 7/23/2018 6:42:16 PM EDT
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To be fair, that rifle is different from yours in almost every way.

Not a dig at all, just saying that you don’t need to get hung up on one part IMO.
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Its a process my man... Of course its not 100% yet.

I have the same rail, top cover, tromix ch and krebs safety. They are using magpul stocks now too.

ETA This won't be a 100% clone of what they are using. Its more inspired, but I want to get it as close as I can
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