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Posted: 8/2/2022 5:44:10 PM EDT
So I purchased a Mini-Beryl at Atlantic Firearms. Love it.
Its really a nice handling gun especially with a Bonesteel Brace. But I wanted to have the option to also do a traditional looking Krink. Having a 1913 rwail allows me easy to convert. Swapped out the top cover for one that has a CETME sight welded to it to replicate a Krink rear sight on the top cover. I cut off the sling loop on the back and added a JMAC Customs 1913 rail adapter by drilling and tapping the rear trunnion on the back - it was relatively easy with drill and tap. With the 1913 rail, I can convert to the Triangle brace and remove the Beryl sight base and add the Krik style cover.  
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Posted: 8/2/2022 9:02:54 PM EDT
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Nice!
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Posted: 8/2/2022 10:23:32 PM EDT
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Thanks the only downside is the front sight is a square post and very stiff, (No AK sight tool fits) must have some sort square wrench that goes to it!
Needle Nose Pliers are useless and don't turn it. |
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Posted: 8/2/2022 11:10:58 PM EDT
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I wonder if a small socket may fit it or security bit or similar?
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Posted: 8/3/2022 1:32:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if a small socket may fit it or security bit or similar? I've been trying exactly that - either sockets are too large to fit between sight ears or don't grab it. Its approx 5mm square or 0.196" I'm looking at specialty 5mm square open tools and it would appear that European clock winders / keys are of the same size. Curious if that was the inspiration of the design was a clock winding tool - seems like it would be handy except this is stubborn. |
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Posted: 8/3/2022 1:37:42 PM EDT
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If you can't find anything I can just tig up a square I am sure. I don't have any rotary broaches, that would be the ticket.
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Posted: 8/4/2022 7:52:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you can't find anything I can just tig up a square I am sure. I don't have any rotary broaches, that would be the ticket. OG1 - Thanks for the offer - I appreciate it. I ordered a 5mm (Swiss Clock Size #11) clock winder key - I will give that a try and report back with how it works. From reading around F B Radom didn't supply kits or tools and they are scarce in the US. The clock tool looks like it might work - if it fits. We will see. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 8:02:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OG1 - Thanks for the offer - I appreciate it. I ordered a 5mm (Swiss Clock Size #11) clock winder key - I will give that a try and report back with how it works. From reading around F B Radom didn't supply kits or tools and they are scarce in the US. The clock tool looks like it might work - if it fits. We will see. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 3:25:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Awesome! I have that same triangle brace on my 5.56 build and love it, it so soft shooting it is crazy. I wish it did not have the gap but I have learned to ignore it lol. Have you had a chance to shoot it yet? Yes, But only when I picked it up at the FFL (No brace at that time) (they have a range) and I was there to pick up the gun and do some shooting with a friend with other guns. I shot 20 rounds through it, no problems functioning, but it really is awkward without "bracing" : ) Recoil impulse is more mild than my other 7.62 SBRs (I have a Yugo M92 SBR, and a Draco done as a ROmanian AIMR) both jump a but given they are 7.62. This Beryl doesn't have the same jump and I'm sure the brace helps a bit. |
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Posted: 8/6/2022 6:39:04 PM EDT
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FYI -
The Mini Beryl is fun to shoot, it is very accurate. An Update to the Front Sight Tool - FYI a #11 5mm Swiss Clock winding tool/key works perfect for front sight adjustment tool. The Mini-Beryl front sight is unique and no tools are imported with the guns oddly enough. The Clock tool (Swiss made) was just under $10 delivered from ebay. It is a nice tool and gives good leverage - the sight post was hard to turn. EDITED TO NOTE _ YES IT LOOKS LIKE A WIND UP TOY   |
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Posted: 8/6/2022 7:12:14 PM EDT
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This place once again is costing me money.
 Mini Beryl on the way. Also an Attero Bravo mount inbound to replace that fugly rail.
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Posted: 8/6/2022 11:14:02 PM EDT
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I'm glad you got it sorted. That does look odd lol
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Posted: 8/7/2022 5:14:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This place once again is costing me money. Mini Beryl on the way. Also an Attero Bravo mount inbound to replace that fugly rail.I agree on it being ugly. (Athough authentic to the Polish NATO offering but the earlier ones didn't have a deep trough but a shallow weaver type rail) I did put an SRO type red dot on it I took off of a Glock - I just don't shoot as well with red dots on the pistol as I thought (Against the trend). Its a high mount and The Attero Bravo is much more in line with a comfortable weld - I want to put an RMR/SRO small profile reflex on it instead of a tube style red dot for compact look. I'd have to makeshift a Glock RMR plate to the Attero mount. Frankly I wish Attero would make a version that had a small section of 1913 rail. anything lower than the original looks so much better. Even the earlier shallow rail looks better. I do admit the weird mount is growing on me, it hit where it was aimed at and solid. US Troops training with Polish in Afghanistan:  Attero Red Dot Mount  |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 6:14:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This place once again is costing me money. Mini Beryl on the way. Also an Attero Bravo mount inbound to replace that fugly rail.Ain’t that the Truth! Mine arrived yesterday. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 12:07:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree on it being ugly. (Athough authentic to the Polish NATO offering but the earlier ones didn't have a deep trough but a shallow weaver type rail) I did put an SRO type red dot on it I took off of a Glock - I just don't shoot as well with red dots on the pistol as I thought (Against the trend). Its a high mount and The Attero Bravo is much more in line with a comfortable weld - I want to put an RMR/SRO small profile reflex on it instead of a tube style red dot for compact look. I'd have to makeshift a Glock RMR plate to the Attero mount. Frankly I wish Attero would make a version that had a small section of 1913 rail. anything lower than the original looks so much better. Even the earlier shallow rail looks better. I do admit the weird mount is growing on me, it hit where it was aimed at and solid. US Troops training with Polish in Afghanistan: https://txadt.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/110206-a-3855r-002.jpg Attero Red Dot Mount https://www.atteroarms.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_5938-scaled.jpg I've had one of their Bravo mounts on my 106 for several years, and I'm really happy with it. I've got a T2 just sitting around waiting on a home, so the Attero Mini Beryl mount seemed like a no-brainer. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 12:08:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ain’t that the Truth! Mine arrived yesterday. Hope you post an AAR soon! |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 6:01:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/17/2022 7:46:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/499876/20220816_144015_jpg-2491570.JPG I think I'm going to dig this set-up. The low profile Red dot sight mount is definitely the way to go. I wish they made it to accept an RMR/SRO instead of tube-only red dots. I have an SRO that I didn't like on a Glock and want it on this pistol instead. |
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Posted: 8/17/2022 9:34:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The low profile Red dot sight mount is definitely the way to go. I wish they made it to accept an RMR/SRO instead of tube-only red dots. I have an SRO that I didn't like on a Glock and want it on this pistol instead. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/499876/20220816_144015_jpg-2491570.JPG I think I'm going to dig this set-up. The low profile Red dot sight mount is definitely the way to go. I wish they made it to accept an RMR/SRO instead of tube-only red dots. I have an SRO that I didn't like on a Glock and want it on this pistol instead. You could always shoot Attero an email and ask if they would do a run for the RMR, it is certainly a popular optic and there might be a market for the product. Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 8/17/2022 9:35:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/499876/20220816_144015_jpg-2491570.JPG I think I'm going to dig this set-up. Damn, I think you sold me on the Attero mount with Aimpoint Micro, that is a sweet setup for a little AK bang stick. Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 8/22/2022 12:16:21 PM EDT
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Looks great. I've been thinking about sell my regular Beryl and getting one of these. I just prefer short Rifles.
How hard was the drill and tap. I usually use StormWerkz that require a hole drilled in the rear trunnion with a threaded allen screwed into the rear of the new back plate attachment. Is there enough clearance to use something like that? Thanks. |
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Posted: 8/22/2022 12:19:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks great. I've been thinking about sell my regular Beryl and getting one of these. I just prefer short Rifles. I've been eagerly awaiting for more full sized Beryls to come back into the Country. You could always do the ARFCOM thing and "get both".
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Posted: 8/22/2022 12:25:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been eagerly awaiting for more full sized Beryls to come back into the Country. You could always do the ARFCOM thing and "get both". I got a little crazy with the AP5 thing, so I've been drowning in CC debt. The sell of the Beryl wound help throw some $$ towards the CC. I've already got a few things for sale to help pay it down, but the gun market is dead right now. And by the time I make the decision, AofA & Atlantic will probably have their shipments in (although those only last about 20 minutes). 
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Posted: 8/22/2022 12:30:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I got a little crazy with the AP5 thing, so I've been drowning in CC debt. The sell of the Beryl wound help throw some $$ towards the CC. I've already got a few things for sale to help pay it down, but the gun market is dead right now. And by the time I make the decision, AofA & Atlantic will probably have their shipments in (although those only last about 20 minutes). PM sent |
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Posted: 8/22/2022 8:40:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks great. I've been thinking about sell my regular Beryl and getting one of these. I just prefer short Rifles. How hard was the drill and tap. I usually use StormWerkz that require a hole drilled in the rear trunnion with a threaded allen screwed into the rear of the new back plate attachment. Is there enough clearance to use something like that? Thanks.  Adding the JMAC adapter was relatively easy First, I cut off the sling adapter loop on the back - I used a cut off wheel I used a vernier caliper to measure the distance from the lower shelf to the center of the hole of the adapter. I then Marked a line at that height on the trunnion rear and then also marked a line for half the thickness of the receiver at the back - it got me to the center. Used a center punch to mark the spot. drilled with a 1/8 drill bit first then used an 8.5 mm bit, then used the tap to tap it. This is the drill and tap set I used. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0719DKC8T?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1 |
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Posted: 8/22/2022 9:06:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/catalog/rsa-akp_1406_detailnb_1971_detail.jpg Adding the JMAC adapter was relatively easy First, I cut off the sling adapter loop on the back - I used a cut off wheel I used a vernier caliper to measure the distance from the lower shelf to the center of the hole of the adapter. I then Marked a line at that height on the trunnion rear and then also marked a line for half the thickness of the receiver at the back - it got me to the center. Used a center punch to mark the spot. drilled with a 1/8 drill bit first then used an 8.5 mm bit, then used the tap to tap it. This is the drill and tap set I used. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0719DKC8T?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1 Thanks for the info. & links. I just let my fullsize go and ordered a Mini. |
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Posted: 8/23/2022 8:20:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for the info. & links. I just let my fullsize go and ordered a Mini. Having both is always a reasonable solution except the cost. I'd like to think these are still available in the future, but imports is one thing the.gov can play with. F B Radom barrels and parts are really top tier for Former Warsaw Pact manufacturing, and also have met NATO. I was going to get a full size Beryl, but then a Tula AKM parts kit walked into my life. |
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Posted: 8/23/2022 5:00:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn, I think you sold me on the Attero mount with Aimpoint Micro, that is a sweet setup for a little AK bang stick. Sven Manticore Arms Got it to the range today to get a rough zero. The Attero Arms back-up rear sight needed the front post to be screwed ALL the way down to be zeroed. The optics mount itself seems to work like a champ. T2 is now dialed in. Put less than a hundred rounds through it, but was flawless. Going to get it out to the desert Thursday and put at least a couple hundred more through it. This is going to be a great little shooter.
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Posted: 8/23/2022 5:03:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How hard was the drill and tap. I usually use StormWerkz that require a hole drilled in the rear trunnion with a threaded allen screwed into the rear of the new back plate attachment. Is there enough clearance to use something like that? Thanks. @dump1567 Sorry, didn't see this part of your post the first time. I ordered mine from Krebs with the brace already installed. |
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Posted: 8/23/2022 5:17:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @dump1567 Sorry, didn't see this part of your post the first time. I ordered mine from Krebs with the brace already installed. No worries. I actually added it after you posted. I think I’ve got a couple of Stormwerkz adapters I’ll try to see if they’ll work. If not, I’ll order the JMAC rail. And than another pending Form 1 to go with my others. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 5:22:59 PM EDT
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@cherenkov
@AZ5326X2 Do you have to mill/drill out the two rivets that appear to be retaining the OEM mini beryl picaitnny top rail/rear sight to remove that section? I know it is dovetailed and slides out the back but when I loosened up the two set screws, it still does not want to come out, and I can't tell what those rivet heads do, so I am assuming the piece is rivetted on to the rear sight housing(?) Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 5:27:39 PM EDT
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Nevermind, I figured out the rivest are just holding the steel dovetail piece and the picatinny rail piece together, and the whole assembly slides right off. All good.
Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 5:31:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @cherenkov @AZ5326X2 Do you have to mill/drill out the two rivets that appear to be retaining the OEM mini beryl picaitnny top rail/rear sight to remove that section? I know it is dovetailed and slides out the back but when I loosened up the two set screws, it still does not want to come out, and I can't tell what those rivet heads do, so I am assuming the piece is rivetted on to the rear sight housing(?) Sven Manticore Arms Not at all Sven. I just backed out the set screws, and tapped it out with a hammer and punch. It's not riveted into the receiver. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 5:34:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nevermind, I figured out the rivest are just holding the steel dovetail piece and the picatinny rail piece together, and the whole assembly slides right off. All good. Sven Manticore Arms You got it! For others; The big ugly but effective factory rail is removable by loosening two 4mm set scres (2mm allen tool) and easily slides off. No drilling is needed. I wish it was quick detach with some spring loaded button then one could easily switch out optics for a variety of needs, (CQB red dot, optical scope for aimed fire at distance, etc etc.) |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:58:14 PM EDT
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Just need to swap the rear trunnion amd mount my Beryl stock and she is done ??
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Posted: 8/24/2022 11:21:22 PM EDT
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I'm getting mine out in the mountains tomorrow to stretch its legs a bit and turn money into noise and brass.
 ETA: I think this thread may be responsible for cleaning Attero Arms out of their Mini Beryl mount. Just checked and they're gone for now.
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Posted: 8/25/2022 8:18:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just need to swap the rear trunnion amd mount my Beryl stock and she is done ?? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/368252/BB331F2A-B8EE-4F12-ACBE-34522EC52CB1-2501908.jpg I LOVE the Retro early handguards. Does anyone have those in stock or are those parts one has to hunt and stalk auctions for? |
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Posted: 8/25/2022 3:18:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/26/2022 10:12:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I LOVE the Retro early handguards. Does anyone have those in stock or are those parts one has to hunt and stalk auctions for? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just need to swap the rear trunnion amd mount my Beryl stock and she is done ?? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/368252/BB331F2A-B8EE-4F12-ACBE-34522EC52CB1-2501908.jpg I LOVE the Retro early handguards. Does anyone have those in stock or are those parts one has to hunt and stalk auctions for? It took me a while to find one of the early handguards, I posted a WTB on a bunch of AK forums and finally one turned up. It doesn't have the pin hole, pin, spring, or heatshiled in it, but I am going to pirate those parts of my current forend. I like the integral handstop and the shape of it feels a lot better in the hand. Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 8/26/2022 8:46:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/499876/20220825_091232__1__jpg-2502487.JPG Great morning out shooting. Badass picture! I may have to do a beryl in 5.45... |
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Posted: 9/2/2022 8:17:38 PM EDT
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Just picked it up today from my FFL. It's a work in progress, but should be pretty shootable in this format.
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Posted: 9/2/2022 10:26:37 PM EDT
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Outstanding!
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Posted: 9/3/2022 6:46:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just picked it up today from my FFL. It's a work in progress, but should be pretty shootable in this format. https://i.imgur.com/OnewK4W.jpg Nice. They are the only close proportional to original Krinkov size except the Arsenal pistols that are $2k-$3K and these are of equal quality. FYI - AK-74 mags will fit this fine. You can get 5.56 followers here Pod Arms 5.56 followers for AK74 mags I had some spare 5.45 Bulgarian used mags I had picked up many years ago from Ohio Rapid Fire back in the day (pouch of 4 for $20) so using some of these. |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 4:58:59 PM EDT
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Quoted: So I purchased a Mini-Beryl at Atlantic Firearms. Love it. Its really a nice handling gun especially with a Bonesteel Brace. But I wanted to have the option to also do a traditional looking Krink. Having a 1913 rwail allows me easy to convert. Swapped out the top cover for one that has a CETME sight welded to it to replicate a Krink rear sight on the top cover. I cut off the sling loop on the back and added a JMAC Customs 1913 rail adapter by drilling and tapping the rear trunnion on the back - it was relatively easy with drill and tap. With the 1913 rail, I can convert to the Triangle brace and remove the Beryl sight base and add the Krik style cover.https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/a607/X-ray6/IMG_3789.jpghttps://hosting.photobucket.com/images/a607/X-ray6/IMG_3790.jpg Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/499876/20220816_144015_jpg-2491570.JPG I think I'm going to dig this set-up. Those are two bad bitches.  Very Nice.
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Posted: 9/15/2022 9:13:21 PM EDT
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Finally got this out to shoot today. A couple flawless mags of Tula and BVA. And the Irons were pretty much already dialed in. SBR paperwork was sent in yesterday.
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Posted: 9/16/2022 7:52:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Finally got this out to shoot today. A couple flawless mags of Tula and BVA. And the Irons were pretty much already dialed in. SBR paperwork was sent in yesterday. https://i.imgur.com/ppEmZFj.jpg Great! I'm thinking of doing an SBR as well. Can't figure out if this Amnesty rumor is an opportunity to do it or not. Anytime something is for "free" there's a catch! Frankly, the more I read about it the more I'm confused and just btte the $200 expense and be done with it. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 9:56:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Great! I'm thinking of doing an SBR as well. Can't figure out if this Amnesty rumor is an opportunity to do it or not. Anytime something is for "free" there's a catch! Frankly, the more I read about it the more I'm confused and just btte the $200 expense and be done with it. I didn't want to wait. I SBR pretty much everything I buy with a barrel length less than 16". I like short rifles. If this Amnesty thing happens, how long will the waits be? 2 years for approval? And one thing I don't see addressed is the 922r issue. You can't just turn all these foreign built pistols into SBR's without adding US parts. This will be lost on most people. Not that anyone seems to comply with 922r. They're creating a huge mess with all this nonsense. Not to mention the ADA lawsuits that will follow. |
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Posted: 9/18/2022 7:49:52 PM EDT
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I ended-up doing some more mods. After drilling a huge hole in the back end plate to fit an extra Storm Werkz M4 Stock tube adaptor I had in my parts pin, there was just no way I could get an allen wrench through the rear end to tighten it down. I also had an extra side folder M4 Stock adaptor that normally threads into an ACE end plate. I ended-up drill and tapping that onto the end. Seems to work great, I just hope the rear was thick enough for the threads to last.
I was also thinking about cutting out the rear end and seeing if a Definite Arms M4 adaptor would fit in. I think it would, but that's the point of no return. I'm happy with what I added.    
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Posted: 9/19/2022 11:24:47 PM EDT
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Looks MUCH more handy with the folding brace.
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