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Posted: 2/13/2018 3:45:23 PM EDT
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There's a dearth of quality imports coming in and a glut of domestically built I.O. and Century crap.
FWIW, I picked up a NIB Zastava N PAP for $475 at a gun show in August and it's been a damned nice gun. |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 3:55:10 PM EDT
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There's a dearth of quality imports coming in and a glut of domestically built I.O. and Century crap. FWIW, I picked up a NIB Zastava N PAP for $475 at a gun show in August and it's been a damned nice gun. |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 3:55:30 PM EDT
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I dunno if demand is higher now than it was during Obama's time (for AKs, specifically), but I do know that we are slowly sliding to the point where there are no good import AK options left. Slooowly but surely it's winding down. No mil is interested in 7.62x39mm guns anymore either, which isn't helping. Toss in the 'rise of the AR' as the go-to gun for Americans and I fear we may be seeing the beginning of the end for the type. If the government ever gets around to banning Russian ammo, the AK is doomed. Yes, it's made in a few other places, but not cheaply. Ukraine and Russia were the sources. Ukraine's factory literally got blown up / burned to the ground. Now it's just russian and expensive euro/american shit. Take away the russian and those prices go up even more, and people REALLY won't like the value proposition vs the AR and 556.
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Posted: 2/13/2018 3:59:28 PM EDT
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I've been shopping for a wasr myself. Local shop checked all his suppliers and couldn't find one in stock. Another shop has one in stock for $750 plus tax. I just can't talk myself into spending that on a wasr. I'm tempted to buy the paratrooper on Atlantics sight but I have some reservations about it.
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Posted: 2/13/2018 7:23:56 PM EDT
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Even for homebuilders, I used to be able to score parts kits for a hundred bucks. Now decent ones command as much as 500 bucks.
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Posted: 2/13/2018 8:45:46 PM EDT
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I was at a gun show recently and the only AKs were those made here in The US by Century and I.O.
There were plenty of them on the tables and they were selling. Not a single WASR or other imported AK was to be found. I'm glad I snagged the N PAP back in August of last year; it's proven to be a really nice rifle, it's a pleasure to shoot, runs smooth as silk, and is exhibiting no improper wear after 1500 rounds. The fit and finish, both inside and out, is very good and if there's one complaint I have it's that although the furniture is nice looking, it's too soft for a military rifle although it's passable for a range gun. BTW: Century is using the very same wood on its newly imported WASRs these days. |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 8:51:47 PM EDT
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steel surp mags, besides the Serb ones that have fitment issues with some guns, are getting harder to find and more expensive too. I dunno. Back in the 90s when I first started buying guns there were stacks of sub-$8 AK mags eeeeverywhere at gun shows and hardly anyone was even looking at them. No interest. Now, they are scarce.
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Posted: 2/13/2018 10:40:40 PM EDT
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An LGS had an N-PAP for $495 recently, and I almost bought it, but I've just always heard to buy a WASR or better. I never know what to do. It takes Yugo specific furniture and isn't chrome lined but other than that, good gun. |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 11:34:37 PM EDT
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EVERYBODY is buying guns. It's a good thing. Finally.
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Posted: 2/14/2018 12:40:10 AM EDT
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Everybody wants what they can't have. Fewer imports and domestic built, for the most part, are junk. Gun culture it seems, has caught on with more people and so therefore more people are buying as well. Production and imports just haven't caught up with demand. Hopefully, more diverse imports will come back from the countries that still can come in and domestic production will step up as well. In a perfect world Century would go back to just importing
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Posted: 2/14/2018 12:42:21 PM EDT
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Yea I think all those "Go get a WASR" posts finally drove up demand. I still recommend one, Mine's been great, but not sure if it's worth $650-$700 when NPAPs are available for $500.
Last I looked Atlantic had the Hungarian AK63 for like $430. Not assembled overseas but made with mostly Hungarian parts like a forged trunnion on a US made receiver & barrel. If it's as good as the AK63DS underfolder I recently picked up I'd say that's the best deal in an entry level AK. Locally I still see WASRs pop up for under $600 NIB but they do seem to go fast. But they are out there. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 3:11:25 PM EDT
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It was only a few years ago that WASRs could be had for a few hundred dollars on the used market. I’m now hard pressed to find any under $650. Has the demand finally caught up with the supply or is there something I’m missing? I wanted to get back into the AK platform but don’t want to spend a fortune doing so. I did some searching,and bought 2 early original owner used WASR's for $400 each.I'm just going use them for shooting lots of ammo thru. Seems lot of complaints online recently that the 2017 and current WASRS are having problems. Good luck. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 3:41:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know what you mean,the cheapest in stock dealer I found is Atlantic at $699. I did some searching,and bought 2 early original owner used WASR's for $400 each.I'm just going use them for shooting lots of ammo thru. Seems lot of complaints online recently that the 2017 and current WASRS are having problems. Good luck. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 6:19:26 PM EDT
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Wasr... blah. I tried one, it wouldn't fire 2 shots back to back. So back it went and it's Arsenal only for me!(unless russians come back) but my Draco has been good to go also.
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:04:26 PM EDT
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There's a used one for a good price in the EE.
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Posted: 2/15/2018 12:57:18 AM EDT
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if you ever wonder if price sells, look at all these junk being sold for around $700 when you can buy an Arsenal for $900...
look for a used SAR-1, unless something has changed that has always been the best deal for a used AK. People price them like they are WASRs |
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Posted: 2/15/2018 1:52:06 AM EDT
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Wasr... blah. I tried one, it wouldn't fire 2 shots back to back. So back it went and it's Arsenal only for me!(unless russians come back) but my Draco has been good to go also. |
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Posted: 2/15/2018 6:52:31 AM EDT
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The WASR 10-AK47 rifles that have been arriving over the last 2 -3 years have improved dramatically . We have had to reject far fewer rifles than in the past. Unfortunately the supply of Romanian and Serbian rifles is starting to dry up and expect them to be harder to obtain in 2018.
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Posted: 2/15/2018 5:58:52 PM EDT
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An LGS had an N-PAP for $495 recently, and I almost bought it, but I've just always heard to buy a WASR or better. I never know what to do. |
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