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Posted: 1/26/2022 12:55:07 PM EDT
Anyone know anything about this importer and ammo? Think it the same as Golden Tiger since it's coming from Vympel?
$329.49 for a case with free shipping and no tax. https://bestvalueammo.com/product/bva-7-62x39-ammunition-1000-rounds-124-grain-bi-metal-fmj-steel-case-by-vympel/  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 1:30:27 PM EDT
[#1]
Most likely.
It definitely looks like Golden Tiger: 124gr bullet, lacquered case, and same color sealant. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 2:11:17 PM EDT
[#2]
Anyone ever heard of the seller?
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:27:02 PM EDT
[#3]
I bought a case. I’ll report back when it shows up.
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Posted: 1/26/2022 11:00:03 PM EDT
[#4]
Seller seems to be fairly new. I have read some good reviews on Ammoseek so I may roll the dice on a case. Made by Vympel per the description and the purple sealant would indicate that as well. They did bump it up to $338.99 with free shipping. Good price these days.
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Posted: 1/27/2022 2:46:24 AM EDT
[#5]
I got 1k and shot it. I ordered a few more k after that. My ammo experience with 7.62 stuff is slim but it seemed better than wolf (much more consistent at least).
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Posted: 1/27/2022 12:28:21 PM EDT
[#6]
Good to hear you liked it. I ordered a case last night so will report back when I get it. I checked the site just now and looks like they raised it again to $345.99 but still have free shipping. Guessing they are getting a lot of orders right now so they can increase the price as needed.
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Posted: 1/27/2022 7:40:50 PM EDT
[#7]
Looks similar to https://www.sgammo.com/product/golden-tiger-ammo-sale/1000-round-case-russian-762x39-124-grain-fmj-bt-corrosive-primer-fact, which makes sense because of Vympel but I'm suspicious with a seller/brand I've never heard of.
Not adverse to shooting corrosively primed ammo, but want to know a bit more about the pedigree of this ammo before I buy it. |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 10:33:55 PM EDT
[#8]
FWIW, After the 1 k I shot, I never cleaned anything. Both ak are psa gf3's. Both no have 0 rust (and that was a few months ago).
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Posted: 1/29/2022 8:40:26 PM EDT
[#9]
The BVA states non-corrosive on their outer 1K case (zoom in to their picture). The SG ammo states "remanufactured". I don't think it's the same.
I ordered 2K of their 5.56 and received it a few weeks ago. Shot fine through my M85. |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 10:20:57 PM EDT
[#10]
Just received shipping confirmation on my order and 2 other emails with updates. So far good communication from them. I will post an update when it arrives.
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Posted: 2/3/2022 4:30:28 PM EDT
[#11]
Shipment arrived today, about 1 week after ordering. Ammo looks great and packaging was good. 2 sets of 25 boxes in plastic wrap and still had the piece of paper of the inspectors stamp, all in Russian so I assume that is what it is. Looks exactly like Golden Tiger, lacquered with the purple sealant. One of these days when it warms up I will nee to compare this with the Republic Training and Range (Barnaul) I received from target Sports. Very happy with the way this transaction went with BVA so may end up ordering more if he price drops again and if they still offer the free shipping.
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Posted: 2/7/2022 11:01:04 AM EDT
[#12]
Price is back down again.
324.98 plus free shipping |
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Posted: 2/7/2022 12:52:34 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Price is back down again. 324.98 plus free shipping Naturally I just bought my first Kalash as the caliber starts to go the way of the dinosaurs  . Hopefully I can stash up 6-8k before years end and manage it from there.
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Posted: 2/7/2022 1:02:05 PM EDT
[#14]
Just put another mag through my 85 today without issue. I've got another 1K on it's way myself.
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Posted: 2/8/2022 7:05:06 PM EDT
[#15]
Don't even have an AK yet,
 still shopping, but thx to you guys I just ordered a case  With free shipping you just can't beat that price... |
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Posted: 2/8/2022 11:20:29 PM EDT
[#16]
Their pricing algorithm must aggressively adjust the price based on volume.
It's back down to $329.98. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 6:39:20 PM EDT
[#17]
What's the free shipping code?
It's wanting to charge me $45 a case shipping. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 9:52:38 PM EDT
[#18]
Seems they run a free shipping special once in a while. Just keep an eye on them for price changes and any shipping offers. They may run free shipping on 7.62x39 but not 5.56 and vice versa. Haven't seen any promo codes for them.
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Posted: 2/12/2022 10:52:21 AM EDT
[#19]
They are charging tax it would seem, shipping as well (which was a bit high.)
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Posted: 2/12/2022 11:04:46 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They are charging tax it would seem, shipping as well (which was a bit high.) They're probably only charging you tax, as you're both located in FL. I didn't pay tax in AZ. |
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Posted: 2/12/2022 11:20:49 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the free shipping code? It's wanting to charge me $45 a case shipping. I talked to one of their reps yesterday, named Alex, very nice guy. He said the free shipping ended Thursday, on the 7.62 X 39 |
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Posted: 2/13/2022 3:23:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I talked to one of their reps yesterday, named Alex, very nice guy. He said the free shipping ended Thursday, on the 7.62 X 39  Just got 2k in and the ammo seems good insofar as Russian steel case can be. Nice lacquer on the case and sealant on the case mouth + primer pocket. Typical Russian boxes that fall apart if you look at them wrong. |
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Posted: 2/13/2022 12:51:02 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hopefully they bring it back Just got 2k in and the ammo seems good insofar as Russian steel case can be. Nice lacquer on the case and sealant on the case mouth + primer pocket. Typical Russian boxes that fall apart if you look at them wrong. That’s good to hear, I just made it before the cutoff, and got free shipping, & they sent me a tracking number the same day. So true about the quality of the boxes! |
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Posted: 2/15/2022 12:49:32 AM EDT
[#24]
Keep an eye on the website, they bring back free shipping once in a while. Also, their prices change frequently. I ordered three tiems form them and all have been great.
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Posted: 2/15/2022 10:12:48 PM EDT
[#25]
Looks like it is out of stock right now for 7.62x39. Hopefully they re-stock soon. Glad I picked some up when I did.
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Posted: 2/16/2022 7:21:25 PM EDT
[#26]
The $325 cases are out of stock. I ordered 50 individual boxes for $323.
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Posted: 2/18/2022 11:38:37 PM EDT
[#27]
Listed on their sister site now.
https://cheapest-ammo.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=68 |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 2:05:28 PM EDT
[#28]
@lichter50
Thanks for that link. Ammoseek has good reviews for Cheapest Ammo. Went ahead and bought a case. $24 shipping to Texas, no tax. Came out to 33.8 cents a round. Not bad for these times. Haven't bought x39 ammo in years. Still comes out cheaper than other places, including SGAmmo, which charges Texas tax since they're Oklahoma (basically far North Texas). Most of the other ammo listed on Ammoseek for under 35 cents a round were just basic Tula. If this Vympel ammo is the same as Golden Tiger, I'm not complaining. |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 3:24:32 PM EDT
[#29]
While not 7.62x39, the case of .223 arrived from BVA.
Packaged very well. Plastic wrap around the ammo inside the shipping cardboard box. First time I ordered any 223/556 and seemed so small compared to 7.62x39. Normally when I shoot 556, it's with the Army, so I don't deal with the packaging. Overall, glad I bought a case. Seems like well-made ammo compared to standard steel case 223. Now need to get to the range. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 1:46:19 PM EDT
[#30]
Looks like golden tiger to me, and a 21 on the papers I'm guessing is the year of manufacture.
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Posted: 3/3/2022 9:35:23 AM EDT
[#31]
Anyone checked this to see if it is corrosive or not? Looks just like the SG corrosive
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Posted: 3/3/2022 10:50:42 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone checked this to see if it is corrosive or not? Looks just like the SG corrosive From what I understand the SG ammo is re-manufactured. The BVA Vympel is new production. The AK Ammo experts on the AKfiles would probably have sniffed this out by now if it was corrosive. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 9:11:30 PM EDT
[#33]
It looks like they keep getting more in stock. What happened to the great panic of 2022?
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Posted: 4/15/2022 12:43:57 PM EDT
[#34]
Surprised to see it back in stock with a new description.
https://bestvalueammo.com/product/7-62x39-fmjbt-by-bsp-124gr-1000-rounds/ New 7.62x39mm high-quality FMJBT cartridges manufactured by BSP factory, located in Bishkek, Kyrgyz Republic. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 1:53:16 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Surprised to see it back in stock with a new description. https://bestvalueammo.com/product/7-62x39-fmjbt-by-bsp-124gr-1000-rounds/ Had to look that place up. Takes care of the no Russian ammo problem. |
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Posted: 4/17/2022 2:23:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Surprised to see it back in stock with a new description. https://bestvalueammo.com/product/7-62x39-fmjbt-by-bsp-124gr-1000-rounds/ I'll take a swing at this new source since I could use some more. The Cheapest Ammo site has it for about 36cpr after shipping. |
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Posted: 4/30/2022 5:10:36 PM EDT
[#37]
Just a heads up that the new source they are using appears to be corrosive. It was originally advertised as non-corrosive but have now been determined to be corrosive. Another board dealing with AK's mentioned BVA has been reaching out to customers as well as updating the description on their site. If you have some of the new stuff, treat as corrosive.
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Posted: 4/30/2022 8:17:25 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone ever heard of the seller? I bought a few cases of that ammo from them. I haven;t shot any ey, but no complaints from me about the seller. |
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Posted: 4/30/2022 10:52:50 PM EDT
[#39]
I found some MaxxTech made by Vympel, but the only legitimate feedback (like the reviewer actually shot it, not just unpacked it) are two posts on here that said the ammo is garbage. It has the purple sealant.
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just a heads up that the new source they are using appears to be corrosive. It was originally advertised as non-corrosive but have now been determined to be corrosive. Another board dealing with AK's mentioned BVA has been reaching out to customers as well as updating the description on their site. If you have some of the new stuff, treat as corrosive. @irish132 So the Russian stuff in non-corrosive, but this new batch from the different country is corrosive? Just double checking, I have a bunch of the Russian BVA. Their site is still using the Made in Russia box for the photo. Ok, I see now, green sealer= corrosive stuff. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 1:38:31 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I found some MaxxTech made by Vympel, but the only legitimate feedback (like the reviewer actually shot it, not just unpacked it) are two posts on here that said the ammo is garbage. It has the purple sealant. @irish132 So the Russian stuff in non-corrosive, but this new batch from the different country is corrosive? Just double checking, I have a bunch of the Russian BVA. Their site is still using the Made in Russia box for the photo. Ok, I see now, green sealer= corrosive stuff. Hope the info helps. One guy mentioned a few of his AK's have started to rust (one was a new Arsenal) so I was trying to spread the word to help others. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 2:01:48 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: From what I understand, the first batch was Russian made by Vympel, and is not corrosive. I understand the new boxes they have been shipping out do indicate the new country of manufacture, they just had not updated the picture of the new boxes. I ordered a few K of Vympel but have not shot any of that yet so I can't report my experience with that yet. So far, others have reported the Vympel is GTG and not corrosive. The new stuff is from Bishkek plant in Kyrgistan (Kyrgz republic) and is corrosive. BVA was great for the few orders I made and it sounds like they got shafted in this deal as well as it was supposed to be non-corrosive. The "other" board members have reported BVA has gone to great lengths to contact folks that have ordered this new stuff and try to find a resolution so HUGE kudos to them. No personal experience since I have not ordered the new stuff, just relaying info. The green sealant may not mean it is corrosive. I think the Bulgarian stuff that has been imported lately has green sealant and is advertised as non-corrosive. Hope the info helps. One guy mentioned a few of his AK's have started to rust (one was a new Arsenal) so I was trying to spread the word to help others. I'm glad you posted the info, thank you much. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 11:58:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From what I understand, the first batch was Russian made by Vympel, and is not corrosive. I understand the new boxes they have been shipping out do indicate the new country of manufacture, they just had not updated the picture of the new boxes. I ordered a few K of Vympel but have not shot any of that yet so I can't report my experience with that yet. So far, others have reported the Vympel is GTG and not corrosive. The new stuff is from Bishkek plant in Kyrgistan (Kyrgz republic) and is corrosive. BVA was great for the few orders I made and it sounds like they got shafted in this deal as well as it was supposed to be non-corrosive. The "other" board members have reported BVA has gone to great lengths to contact folks that have ordered this new stuff and try to find a resolution so HUGE kudos to them. No personal experience since I have not ordered the new stuff, just relaying info. The green sealant may not mean it is corrosive. I think the Bulgarian stuff that has been imported lately has green sealant and is advertised as non-corrosive. Hope the info helps. One guy mentioned a few of his AK's have started to rust (one was a new Arsenal) so I was trying to spread the word to help others. Thanks for posting this dude. 
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Posted: 5/1/2022 10:24:11 PM EDT
[#43]
How would one tell the difference?
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Posted: 5/1/2022 10:45:02 PM EDT
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The Russian stuff has a Vympel headstamp, looks like a weird "B". The new stuff seems to have "BVA" and "7.62x39" as a headstamp. I am not sure when they switched to the BVA headstamp though so this may just be a ballpark theory.
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Posted: 5/2/2022 10:46:15 AM EDT
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I don't understand why an importer would trust the word of someone in a former Soviet republic on whether their ammo was corrosive or not?
 The instant I saw that ammo I knew there was about an 80% chance it was corrosive.  How hard is it to pull a sample and test it? And then keep testing every lot that comes in because it can change day to day. |
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Posted: 6/6/2022 11:15:17 AM EDT
[#46]
Triple checking, red primer sealant plus made in Russia on boxes plus cyrillic B headstamp, is likely not corrosive? I received a case in February.
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Posted: 6/6/2022 11:48:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Triple checking, red primer sealant plus made in Russia on boxes plus cyrillic B headstamp, is likely not corrosive? I received a case in February. The corrosive version is made in Kyrgyzstan, has a "BVA" headstamp, and uses emerald-green sealant. |
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Posted: 6/6/2022 11:48:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Triple checking, red primer sealant plus made in Russia on boxes plus cyrillic B headstamp, is likely not corrosive? I received a case in February. Red primer seal, purple case mouth seal, "B" headstamp (Cyrillic "V" for Vympel) points to the non-corrosive stuff. |
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