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Posted: 5/26/2023 11:15:13 AM EDT
 More in a bit, I’m working, but major improvements have been made… Video and other photos on KC website: HERE |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 5:19:09 PM EDT
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Is it just me or is that top cover more reinforced?
AKV-521 is what they need but cannot afford, along with better training and leadership…….or just walk home |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 6:53:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is it just me or is that top cover more reinforced? AKV-521 is what they need but cannot afford, along with better training and leadership…….or just walk home It also looks like the top handguard is retained with a pin. I am trying to get the video to load, but for some reason I can’t. |
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Posted: 5/28/2023 9:32:39 AM EDT
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The real question is will the hand guard hold zero for a laser. May still be the duty of a good Zenitco rail.
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Posted: 5/28/2023 3:14:31 PM EDT
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Oh man, I need one of those cheek risers!
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Posted: 5/28/2023 7:01:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh man, I need one of those cheek risers! I am trying to locate one of the handguard systems. The original is too flexible. |
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Posted: 5/28/2023 11:08:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am trying to locate one of the handguard systems. The original is too flexible. Well, good luck to both of us. Hopefully they haven't clamped down on their Supply officers selling off parts to the commercial market 
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Posted: 5/28/2023 11:19:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am trying to locate one of the handguard systems. The original is too flexible. From other photos I've seen, it looks like they changed the junction block that the piston tube is apart of, along with the retaining pin for the receiver cover. The new handguards may not work with the earlier variants that are in the US currently. |
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Posted: 5/28/2023 11:47:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, good luck to both of us. Hopefully they haven't clamped down on their Supply officers selling off parts to the commercial market Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, good luck to both of us. Hopefully they haven't clamped down on their Supply officers selling off parts to the commercial market I think within five years we will see parts kits. Quoted: From other photos I've seen, it looks like they changed the junction block that the piston tube is apart of, along with the retaining pin for the receiver cover. The new handguards may not work with the earlier variants that are in the US currently. Good eye on the pin. I didn’t notice it at all. I wish someone was able to download and post the video. I can’t seem to access it from here. |
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Posted: 5/29/2023 9:43:24 AM EDT
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What's up with "quietly" titled threads. Seems like a pointless use of an adverb.
The rifle looks cool though. Kinda wish I still had my 74 clone. |
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Posted: 5/29/2023 9:44:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good eye on the pin. I didn’t notice it at all. I wish someone was able to download and post the video. I can’t seem to access it from here. Here:  New AK-12 Variant for 2023 Cool to see that they implemented the push-pin style of take-down for the receiver cover. I was actually planning on making a new junction block that would utilize HK push pins for take-down, but as with most things with me, it got put on the back burner. Also good because if you need to replace the pin, you don't have to grind down the end of it like you would on the earlier variant. |
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Posted: 5/29/2023 10:23:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vhnI7IPbYgCool to see that they implemented the push-pin style of take-down for the receiver cover. I was actually planning on making a new junction block that would utilize HK push pins for take-down, but as with most things with me, it got put on the back burner. Also good because if you need to replace the pin, you don't have to grind down the end of it like you would on the earlier variant. Thanks for posting the video. I was pulling my hair out because they replaced the original on their telegram page with the link I put in the OP to their membership club. I still want to see the handguard stripped so we can identify the connection method. If you do ever end up updating the original pin, let us all know man. I know I’m in for one or two! |
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Posted: 5/29/2023 10:26:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's up with "quietly" titled threads. Seems like a pointless use of an adverb. Rumor has it, it was originally added to the title of threads to make things easier to search by internet poster BigSal himself. The practice took on a life of its own and now is more a meme than anything else. |
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Posted: 5/29/2023 10:45:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rumor has it, it was originally added to the title of threads to make things easier to search by internet poster BigSal himself. The practice took on a life of its own and now is more a meme than anything else. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What's up with "quietly" titled threads. Seems like a pointless use of an adverb. Rumor has it, it was originally added to the title of threads to make things easier to search by internet poster BigSal himself. The practice took on a life of its own and now is more a meme than anything else. Why worry over it in a tech forum? We leave the grammar guys back in GD.  |
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Posted: 5/29/2023 11:23:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for posting the video. I was pulling my hair out because they replaced the original on their telegram page with the link I put in the OP to their membership club. I still want to see the handguard stripped so we can identify the connection method. If you do ever end up updating the original pin, let us all know man. I know I’m in for one or two! Looking at the video it looks like it is the same the block, but with the little "wing" on the right that locks the lever milled off. But I'm only guessing. The alternate block is still on my "don't abandon" project list. It would also utilize a removable piston tube. I got as far as machining a very rough prototype. |
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Posted: 5/30/2023 6:14:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/30/2023 7:32:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryThey don’t even make an attempt to try to photograph the correct rifle. Absolutely ridiculous article as well. They really have made decent improvements each generation. CNN might have been honest and stated as much. Quoted: Looking at the video it looks like it is the same the block, but with the little "wing" on the right that locks the lever milled off. But I'm only guessing. The alternate block is still on my "don't abandon" project list. It would also utilize a removable piston tube. I got as far as machining a very rough prototype. I like the idea. We also need a U.S. made handguard and I am sick of waiting. :) |
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Posted: 6/5/2023 1:51:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/5/2023 2:57:13 PM EDT
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Speaking of the AK-12:
https://twitter.com/CalibreObscura/status/1665747462458417152 Feedback from contacts currently in the fight indicates that the AK-12 is not well regarded but it is better than some of the clapped-out AK-74 variants Ukraine pulled out. |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 9:07:38 AM EDT
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Gun guys expressing thoughts on the AK-12.
 The AK12 - a sad chapter for the Kalashnikov? feat. Brandon Herrera [Podcast Ep. 1] |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 2:24:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/11/2023 4:57:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Should be on the next cover of Playboy. Either the ak12 or Condoleezza Rice in her 20’s. I’m really not picky.. |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 8:20:25 PM EDT
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 ????? "??????????" ??-12 ??? ????????  ??? ??? ??-12 ??????? 2023 ????  ???????? «????????» ?? ????? ????????? ?????? ???????? ?? 12 I don't know Russian but the closed caption auto translate is understandable.    Failed To Load Title Starting at 6 min 16 sec. And some screen caps from some Youtube shorts.     
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Posted: 6/11/2023 8:54:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat hand guard is interesting in that it looks like the two halves are attached with screws from the top. |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 9:14:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That hand guard is interesting in that it looks like the two halves are attached with screws from the top. Yeah what's also interesting to me is that according to auto translated closed captions for the vid with Vladmir Onokoy, it's made out of metal. It also looks like it has MLOK slots at the 3 and 9 o'clock positions. No clue if that design is for "special units" only or if the design was abandoned for a "newer" version. The other vids have what appears to me to be a new polymer handguard that is attached to the receiver via silver cross pin and a black cross pin/roll pin on the front of the handguard? Can't tell if the upper handguard is pinned to a new gas tube support structure up front or if that is a tongue of the lower handguard. I'm assuming the metal handguard is a special product upgrade for already produced AK12s and the new polymer handguard with reinforcing structural ribs is regular production? |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 11:17:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah what's also interesting to me is that according to auto translated closed captions for the vid with Vladmir Onokoy, it's made out of metal. It also looks like it has MLOK slots at the 3 and 9 o'clock positions. No clue if that design is for "special units" only or if the design was abandoned for a "newer" version. The other vids have what appears to me to be a new polymer handguard that is attached to the receiver via silver cross pin and a black cross pin/roll pin on the front of the handguard? Can't tell if the upper handguard is pinned to a new gas tube support structure up front or if that is a tongue of the lower handguard. I'm assuming the metal handguard is a special product upgrade for already produced AK12s and the new polymer handguard with reinforcing structural ribs is regular production? Vladmir is a member here, I’m wondering if he will chime in. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 1:26:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Either the ak12 or Condoleezza Rice in her 20’s. I’m really not picky.. Sorry, just no... Given that I've met her, this just hurts additionally... Whatever happened to Kate Upton before she got married? 
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Posted: 6/12/2023 1:52:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry, just no... Given that I've met her, this just hurts additionally... Whatever happened to Kate Upton before she got married? I have particular tastes that aren’t shared by everyone! Anyway, I am laser focused on figuring out the new handguard attachment method. If anyone has pictures of the new version field stripped I’d appreciate it if you posted them. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:14:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry, just no... Given that I've met her, this just hurts additionally... Whatever happened to Kate Upton before she got married? Please stick to AKs. I was hoping this line of the thread would die out, but looks like I have say something. dryflash3 |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:05:21 AM EDT
[#29]
 I Tried New Russian Army Assault Rifle | AK-12 Gen3 | What's New, What's Changed? Another vid but no new info that no one doesn't know about. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:08:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am trying to locate one of the handguard systems. The original is too flexible. Does it actually matter? I've yet to see one with an optic or any accessories mounted. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:49:51 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agcfhZahQi4Another vid but no new info that no one doesn't know about. This guy is shooting a gun like its his very first time ever firing a weapon. LMFAO |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:23:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This guy is shooting a gun like its his very first time ever firing a weapon. LMFAO Quote HistoryQuoted: This guy is shooting a gun like its his very first time ever firing a weapon. LMFAO A lot of Indian fellas don’t have access to firearms in their home country. It might have been his first time or second time shooting. Makes me thankful we are where we are actually. Quoted: Does it actually matter? I've yet to see one with an optic or any accessories mounted. Download telegram. Log out of twitter. Plenty of optics mounted all over the place on AK’s. What I want to see is the next generation sport 12 which will feature a co-plainer pic rail. I may take a massive risk and buy it when it becomes available and see if I can get it over here. I missed out on the LAC handguards and am super regretful.. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:25:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What say we get back on topic, this is the wrong forum to discuss women. Please stick to AKs. I was hoping this line of the thread would die out, but looks like I have say something. dryflash3 Roger that. It was my fault. Will move it to GD next time. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:37:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Roger that. It was my fault. Will move it to GD next time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What say we get back on topic, this is the wrong forum to discuss women. Please stick to AKs. I was hoping this line of the thread would die out, but looks like I have say something. dryflash3 Roger that. It was my fault. Will move it to GD next time. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 12:13:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A lot of Indian fellas don’t have access to firearms in their home country. It might have been his first time or second time shooting. Makes me thankful we are where we are actually. This is true, and it makes more sense him coming from India. Especially as someone from India would have more interest in the Latest AK's since their military is switching over to the AK-15/203 variant. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 2:11:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is true, and it makes more sense him coming from India. Especially as someone from India would have more interest in the Latest AK's since their military is switching over to the AK-15/203 variant. Honestly it’s not a bad system if they are using 7.62x39. And obviously if they are running the factory, they will be able to keep costs constrained, so the 203 is a solid choice. I’m more interested in seeing India consolidate down to a single caliber instead of five… |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 2:03:58 AM EDT
[#37]
Watching this combat footage here, and @23:35 you can clearly see the updated/more recent version of the Russian AK12 being the pistol grip and the trigger guard combo as a dead giveaway as the one pictured above strapped to that Ukrainian Soldiers back. Either it way it was captured, be it off surrendering Russians, a dead corpse, or a captured cache/left behind Russian Equipment. Speak very little Russian/Ukrainian, but he states something in regards to that specific AK12 he has, maybe even how it was acquired. Be cool if we can get some more information on it.
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Posted: 6/20/2023 3:46:32 PM EDT
[#38]
 ?? – 12 ?????? 2023 ????. ????? ???????? ?????? ??????? ????? ??????. ??????? ??????????? |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 7:36:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Watching this combat footage here, and @23:35 you can clearly see the updated/more recent version of the Russian AK12 being the pistol grip and the trigger guard combo as a dead giveaway as the one pictured above strapped to that Ukrainian Soldiers back. Either it way it was captured, be it off surrendering Russians, a dead corpse, or a captured cache/left behind Russian Equipment. Speak very little Russian/Ukrainian, but he states something in regards to that specific AK12 he has, maybe even how it was acquired. Be cool if we can get some more information on it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Watching this combat footage here, and @23:35 you can clearly see the updated/more recent version of the Russian AK12 being the pistol grip and the trigger guard combo as a dead giveaway as the one pictured above strapped to that Ukrainian Soldiers back. Either it way it was captured, be it off surrendering Russians, a dead corpse, or a captured cache/left behind Russian Equipment. Speak very little Russian/Ukrainian, but he states something in regards to that specific AK12 he has, maybe even how it was acquired. Be cool if we can get some more information on it. It’s not the newest model. It’s a v2 not v3. Note the handguard. There are about five times more surrendered Ukrainians in this conflict and a similar ratio favoring the Russians when it comes to dead and wounded personnel. We likely won’t see any captured units coming from the former Ukraine due to the obvious fact that they will lose the war. But let’s leave the commentary to the GD section. I wish he would have stripped the handguard down to the pinned portion so we could see what the retention mechanism is. Great video! |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 8:47:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not the newest model. It's a v2 not v3. Note the handguard. There are about five times more surrendered Ukrainians in this conflict and a similar ratio favoring the Russians when it comes to dead and wounded personnel. We likely won't see any captured units coming from the former Ukraine due to the obvious fact that they will lose the war. But let's leave the commentary to the GD section. I wish he would have stripped the handguard down to the pinned portion so we could see what the retention mechanism is. Great video! makes a political statement then says to leave it in GD...... 
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Posted: 6/21/2023 11:55:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: makes a political statement then says to leave it in GD...... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's not the newest model. It's a v2 not v3. Note the handguard. There are about five times more surrendered Ukrainians in this conflict and a similar ratio favoring the Russians when it comes to dead and wounded personnel. We likely won't see any captured units coming from the former Ukraine due to the obvious fact that they will lose the war. But let's leave the commentary to the GD section. I wish he would have stripped the handguard down to the pinned portion so we could see what the retention mechanism is. Great video! makes a political statement then says to leave it in GD...... |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 1:29:50 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ya, a little sketchy. Hope it end there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Ya, a little sketchy. Hope it end there. Quoted: makes a political statement then says to leave it in GD...... Not going to argue with you two on a Wednesday morning. If you’d like just take it as “the possibility of imports from a war zone in great numbers are low”. I’ve tried personally to get a V2 dust cover and aperture sight and it has met with failure. Start talking about the V3 and the likelihood diminishes even further. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 7:22:18 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s not the newest model. It’s a v2 not v3. Note the handguard. There are about five times more surrendered Ukrainians in this conflict and a similar ratio favoring the Russians when it comes to dead and wounded personnel. We likely won’t see any captured units coming from the former Ukraine due to the obvious fact that they will lose the war. But let’s leave the commentary to the GD section. I wish he would have stripped the handguard down to the pinned portion so we could see what the retention mechanism is. Great video! Don't care for the political analysis of the reply, but seriously you know anyone who can translate what is said in regards to that AK-12, they do make mention of it on the time stamp I posted. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 11:11:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't care for the political analysis of the reply, but seriously you know anyone who can translate what is said in regards to that AK-12, they do make mention of it on the time stamp I posted. It’s a long video. I can have my wife translate a portion but I’d be in the shithouse if I asked for the entire video. Which part is most interesting for translation? |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 1:17:12 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s a long video. I can have my wife translate a portion but I’d be in the shithouse if I asked for the entire video. Which part is most interesting for translation? Starting from the time stamp in the above video I posted in my above reply, it should be at 23:25 where it starts, its about a minute, maybe two max from there. In the little Russian I know they make mention of the specific AK-12 in that part of the video, and even show it off. Thanks! |
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Posted: 6/25/2023 9:09:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Starting from the time stamp in the above video I posted in my above reply, it should be at 23:25 where it starts, its about a minute, maybe two max from there. In the little Russian I know they make mention of the specific AK-12 in that part of the video, and even show it off. Thanks! I’ll ask, no problem. |
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Posted: 7/12/2023 8:09:06 PM EDT
[#47]
 What Happened to Russia's New AK-12? |
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