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Posted: 1/29/2020 9:23:07 PM EDT
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Lee Armory
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Posted: 1/29/2020 9:32:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/29/2020 10:10:10 PM EDT
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well, it wasn't cheap but i bought a Rifle Dynamics 504 SBR, Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 1/29/2020 11:46:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/30/2020 1:33:57 AM EDT
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Want to add a 12.5 "alpha" inspired 5.45 am to the safe this year. PSA already said 12.5 is probably not gonna happen so I'm looking elsewhere. Any factory 12.5s to look for? Or any 16" guns that can easily be chopped? If so, who should I look to for doing the work? Budget isnt really a problem, just want a good quality gun that wont shit the bed.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 1:37:45 AM EDT
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Quote Historyi asked and was told there were only plans for the 10.5" 
oh well. If not then i guess ill get a 16" 5.45 from them and just have it converted. |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 1:43:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: nice. i asked and was told there were only plans for the 10.5"
oh well. If not then i guess ill get a 16" 5.45 from them and just have it converted. Eta I think kalishnikov USA will build what you want eventually. I hope they are successful to the point of getting a hammer forge |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 11:29:12 AM EDT
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If money is no object get an SGL31 and have it converted to a proper AK105, then add ZenitCo rails, lights and lasers
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Posted: 1/31/2020 8:30:49 AM EDT
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If money is no object get an SGL31 and have it converted to a proper AK105, then add ZenitCo rails, lights and lasers https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20190927_165814-1104628.jpg I like others converted mine from a 16" OP. 2 ways to do it, Russian or Bulgarian. Russian is more work, and probably more expensive parts wise. Bulgarian is easier and may be a bit cheaper. The 104/105 FSB/GB combos aren't getting an easier to find. There is someone making aftermarket ones though. |
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Posted: 1/31/2020 11:04:53 AM EDT
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If you're going the Russian route, there is an SGL21/71 in gunbroker with a buy it now price of $1,200, the SGL31s and SLR104s are more expensive, and there is also a guy selling Russian 104 gas block combos for $300
 , that leaves you with just getting the 5.5 folding rear trunnion that if I'm not mistaken is available on almost all the AK oriented websites.But if you go the Bulgarian route, SLR10X and plan on doing an Alpha clone with the correct rails, and you use the bulgy gas block/front sight combo, it might not be compatible with the zenitco rails. Mine would bind because of the front sight detent tube on the bulgy FSB/GB combo, so here I am wasting more money on a russian 104 FSB/GB combo and paying someone else to do the retro fit. 
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Posted: 1/31/2020 11:45:42 AM EDT
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what a braggart! Like we're impressed. I know for a fact that you wouldn't even have that if someone hadn't convinced you how awesome the 105 is. I like others converted mine from a 16" OP. 2 ways to do it, Russian or Bulgarian. Russian is more work, and probably more expensive parts wise. Bulgarian is easier and may be a bit cheaper. The 104/105 FSB/GB combos aren't getting an easier to find. There is someone making aftermarket ones though. I know where a GBC-13 might be that's not being used as well depending on how "correct / cloneish" you want to go. |
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Posted: 1/31/2020 12:07:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/31/2020 12:23:23 PM EDT
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If you're going the Russian route, there is an SGL21/71 in gunbroker with a buy it now price of $1,200, the SGL31s and SLR104s are more expensive, and there is also a guy selling Russian 104 gas block combos for $300 , that leaves you with just getting the 5.5 folding rear trunnion that if I'm not mistaken is available on almost all the AK oriented websites.But if you go the Bulgarian route, SLR10X and plan on doing an Alpha clone with the correct rails, and you use the bulgy gas block/front sight combo, it might not be compatible with the zenitco rails. Mine would bind because of the front sight detent tube on the bulgy FSB/GB combo, so here I am wasting more money on a russian 104 FSB/GB combo and paying someone else to do the retro fit. It gets exhausting wading through the beat to shit aks people try to sell...but wait, it's not beaten up...its a "battlefield pickup" 
That's why I was originally hoping psa would make one or k usa. |
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Posted: 1/31/2020 12:36:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not too into the 100% clone correct and I'm definitely not a "must be made by boris the drunk factory worker' mouth breather. It gets exhausting wading through the beat to shit aks people try to sell...but wait, it's not beaten up...its a "battlefield pickup"
That's why I was originally hoping psa would make one or k usa. Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not too into the 100% clone correct and I'm definitely not a "must be made by boris the drunk factory worker' mouth breather. It gets exhausting wading through the beat to shit aks people try to sell...but wait, it's not beaten up...its a "battlefield pickup"
That's why I was originally hoping psa would make one or k usa. Cloning even like the AR side gets pricey quick depending on how accurate you want to/can be. Quoted:
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Posted: 1/31/2020 1:42:40 PM EDT
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so I shoot wolf/tula/silver bear from my gun, i have 4k of 7n6 but I am saving it for the boogaloo
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Posted: 1/31/2020 2:51:22 PM EDT
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so I shoot wolf/tula/silver bear from my gun, i have 4k of 7n6 but I am saving it for the boogaloo |
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Posted: 1/31/2020 9:37:52 PM EDT
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Went to the lgs today to pick up a usp9 and on the wall I noticed a ak74..figured I'd take a look at it and see if it was a worthy candidate for a conversion.
Do you guys remember when the wasr was considered a massive piece of shit 10 years ago because of all the problems they had? This made those wasrs look like art. Idk who put this parts kit together but it was very obvious it was done at home with the primary tool being a heavy rock. The lgs actually had to put painter's tape around the magazine to keep it from falling out when it was "locked in" |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 9:05:52 AM EDT
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I know for a fact that you wouldn't even have that if someone hadn't convinced you how awesome the 105 is Admittedly I still love the fullsize but I was wrong about the 105. It is quite the handy rifle |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 9:10:54 AM EDT
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thank you - kind of the consensus with everyone else shooting 5.45 suppressed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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so I shoot wolf/tula/silver bear from my gun, i have 4k of 7n6 but I am saving it for the boogaloo If it rusts, is it actually going to be worse than all the blast erosion? Add to that the million layers of carbon caked over all the internals and then think about how likely water can get to the surface of the metal On a couple of my suppressors I have been observing for rust after shooting 7n6 and still haven't seen an evidence yet I'm also not the smartest guy I've ever met but to me again corrosive seems like the boogeyman rather than a real risk |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 4:50:08 PM EDT
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I still don't understand the logic of not shooting corrosive through a suppressor If it rusts, is it actually going to be worse than all the blast erosion? Add to that the million layers of carbon caked over all the internals and then think about how likely water can get to the surface of the metal On a couple of my suppressors I have been observing for rust after shooting 7n6 and still haven't seen an evidence yet I'm also not the smartest guy I've ever met but to me again corrosive seems like the boogeyman rather than a real risk If I decide to suppress might as well get a DA Wolverine so I can use it on all the AK variants |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 5:29:00 PM EDT
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I still don't understand the logic of not shooting corrosive through a suppressor If it rusts, is it actually going to be worse than all the blast erosion? Add to that the million layers of carbon caked over all the internals and then think about how likely water can get to the surface of the metal On a couple of my suppressors I have been observing for rust after shooting 7n6 and still haven't seen an evidence yet I'm also not the smartest guy I've ever met but to me again corrosive seems like the boogeyman rather than a real risk
It's pretty much fucked. Some day I'll get it apart without ruining the baffles. ETA: was mounted on a 545AR upper, not a 74 variant. |
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Posted: 2/2/2020 10:01:00 AM EDT
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interesting. Had you ever shot it with anything else before? Zen and I have put corrosive through his and I do not believe he has ever had an issue. Of course it was as he had mentioned, already had plenty of carbon buildup on it IIRC
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Posted: 2/3/2020 12:44:20 PM EDT
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I'm not too into the 100% clone correct and I'm definitely not a "must be made by boris the drunk factory worker' mouth breather. It gets exhausting wading through the beat to shit aks people try to sell...but wait, it's not beaten up...its a "battlefield pickup"
That's why I was originally hoping psa would make one or k usa. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you're going the Russian route, there is an SGL21/71 in gunbroker with a buy it now price of $1,200, the SGL31s and SLR104s are more expensive, and there is also a guy selling Russian 104 gas block combos for $300 , that leaves you with just getting the 5.5 folding rear trunnion that if I'm not mistaken is available on almost all the AK oriented websites.But if you go the Bulgarian route, SLR10X and plan on doing an Alpha clone with the correct rails, and you use the bulgy gas block/front sight combo, it might not be compatible with the zenitco rails. Mine would bind because of the front sight detent tube on the bulgy FSB/GB combo, so here I am wasting more money on a russian 104 FSB/GB combo and paying someone else to do the retro fit. It gets exhausting wading through the beat to shit aks people try to sell...but wait, it's not beaten up...its a "battlefield pickup"
That's why I was originally hoping psa would make one or k usa. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 3:57:30 PM EDT
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interesting. Had you ever shot it with anything else before? Zen and I have put corrosive through his and I do not believe he has ever had an issue. Of course it was as he had mentioned, already had plenty of carbon buildup on it IIRC I believe it was a combination of shooting 7n6/ rinsing the can/ not letting it dry out thoroughly/ letting it sit without taking it apart. Had I completely dissembled it and dried it out before putting it away I think I might have been fine. Still works alright, but it's pretty much fucked in its current state as far as taking it apart. I figure this spring/summer when the new garage is set up I may try to take off the end caps and drive out the baffle stack using a press or something. |
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Posted: 2/4/2020 11:34:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I shot some 7n6 through a Huntertown arms can, rinsed it out and let it sit for a couple months without taking it apart.
It's pretty much fucked. Some day I'll get it apart without ruining the baffles. ETA: was mounted on a 545AR upper, not a 74 variant. |
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Posted: 2/5/2020 12:16:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m on my third 5.45 AR barrel. Lots of suppressed fire. My Saker gets rinsed heavily with water and dried out in the oven, I can’t see any corrosion.
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Posted: 2/5/2020 8:32:58 AM EDT
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@nictra I believe it was a combination of shooting 7n6/ rinsing the can/ not letting it dry out thoroughly/ letting it sit without taking it apart. Had I completely dissembled it and dried it out before putting it away I think I might have been fine. Still works alright, but it's pretty much fucked in its current state as far as taking it apart. I figure this spring/summer when the new garage is set up I may try to take off the end caps and drive out the baffle stack using a press or something. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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interesting. Had you ever shot it with anything else before? Zen and I have put corrosive through his and I do not believe he has ever had an issue. Of course it was as he had mentioned, already had plenty of carbon buildup on it IIRC I believe it was a combination of shooting 7n6/ rinsing the can/ not letting it dry out thoroughly/ letting it sit without taking it apart. Had I completely dissembled it and dried it out before putting it away I think I might have been fine. Still works alright, but it's pretty much fucked in its current state as far as taking it apart. I figure this spring/summer when the new garage is set up I may try to take off the end caps and drive out the baffle stack using a press or something. |
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Posted: 2/5/2020 10:00:49 AM EDT
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Send it to be recored by 66deuce/Ecco machine. 
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Posted: 2/5/2020 1:03:28 PM EDT
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I had them recore my AAC and Griffin suppressors over to Dead Air KeyMo and the work was fantastic https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20191023_174128-1135376.jpg |
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Posted: 2/5/2020 7:36:28 PM EDT
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lets hope it doesn't take PSA too long to get around to the 12.5 inch barrels. |
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Posted: 2/5/2020 8:42:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This! This right here is perfect and what i have been wanting for an AK. Unfortunately money is the issue at the moment.
lets hope it doesn't take PSA too long to get around to the 12.5 inch barrels. |
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Posted: 2/5/2020 9:30:23 PM EDT
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If the ak-e comes out in 5.45 before a real 12.5 factory gun I'll probably get the ak-e and chop it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: This! This right here is perfect and what i have been wanting for an AK. Unfortunately money is the issue at the moment.
lets hope it doesn't take PSA too long to get around to the 12.5 inch barrels. |
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Posted: 2/6/2020 12:26:49 AM EDT
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I didn't know that were planning on making the AK-e in 5.45. That should be pretty nice to have a 5.45 with an FN barrel. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: This! This right here is perfect and what i have been wanting for an AK. Unfortunately money is the issue at the moment.
lets hope it doesn't take PSA too long to get around to the 12.5 inch barrels. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 6:13:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the ak-e comes out in 5.45 before a real 12.5 factory gun I'll probably get the ak-e and chop it. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 6:32:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I asked PSA about this and they said they have no plans for a AK-E in 5.45. Why is it so difficult to make a 105 or something easily turned into a 105...but then they go and make a billion other things. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 6:38:36 PM EDT
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