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Posted: 3/10/2012 10:49:59 AM EDT
I know this sounds crazy but ive found that synthetic motor oil works great as a lube, it doesnt evaporate or gum up when it gets hot, was wondering if anyone else has tried this.
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I've been using MOBIL-1 for years.
stays put better than CLP and cheaper too. |
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I like royal purple these days. 10w30 RP has worked very very well for me lately and even after ripping through some magazines its still there.
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I know this sounds crazy but ive found that synthetic motor oil works great as a lube, it doesnt evaporate or gum up when it gets hot, was wondering if anyone else has tried this. Great for lubing, but even the thinnest motor oils like 0w-40 gets quite thick in low temperatures, when compared to Break free CLP and similar products. I presume the corrosion resistance is also lower than with gun spesific, protective oils. Although it might be a unnecessary feature if you don't operate in humid conditions. |
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im using generic no name synthetic, seems to work great though
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I've used the Napa brand synthetic (which I THINK is made by Valvoline and is as close to a 100% synthetic as you can get) and the regular 20 wt dino oil. Both lube well and don't dry out. But I prefer Lucus gun oil because I can get it for about $2 a bottle and it seems to have better corrosion protection.
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Folks get in pissing contests over oil choices, cannot understand why it bothers them so much. I use Mobil 1 since the early 90's and prefer it (or any synthetic oil) to most gun oils, it does not varnish and protects plenty good enough. I also make up bottles of lube similar to a previous poster. Whether someone wants to use synthetic motor oil, hydraulic oil, ATF, whale blubber oil, or whatever is great. For long term storage, I wipe down with Ballistol, but Mobil 1 works fine for hot,humid areas like this (15 miles from the Gulf on the south Texas coast). I have never seen a spot of rust on my abused weapons, nor had Mobil 1 thicken like gun oils hunting Colorado mountains.
That said, I still use Slip 2000 EWL also, it is better (by a small fraction). Mobil 1 or Royal Purple or Castrol all are better than many gun oils of the past. Use what works for you and be happy it works, it's great to have so many choices (and oppinions). Edit to add––> You can find a plethora of bottles on Ebay, I give them to friends and they think I gave them some super duper oil (synthetic oil blends)... |
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No crazy at all. If you look through any thread about lube, you will see that tons of people are using synthetic motor oil. I use mobil one and generic synthetic, they both work great. I even make my "battle bottles" for my grip storage, gear pouches, and range bags/rifle cases: 3cc for the grips, 6cc for gear pouches, and 15cc for my bags http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff283/dcs12345/photobucket-5658-1330809197911.jpg Where did you get those bottles? Going to do the same with some royal purple. |
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No crazy at all. If you look through any thread about lube, you will see that tons of people are using synthetic motor oil. I use mobil one and generic synthetic, they both work great. I even make my "battle bottles" for my grip storage, gear pouches, and range bags/rifle cases: 3cc for the grips, 6cc for gear pouches, and 15cc for my bags http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff283/dcs12345/photobucket-5658-1330809197911.jpg Where did you get those bottles? Going to do the same with some royal purple. I would like to know as well. |
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I've been using MOBIL-1 for years. stays put better than CLP and cheaper too. Doesnt burn off as easy either |
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No crazy at all. If you look through any thread about lube, you will see that tons of people are using synthetic motor oil. I use mobil one and generic synthetic, they both work great. I even make my "battle bottles" for my grip storage, gear pouches, and range bags/rifle cases: 3cc for the grips, 6cc for gear pouches, and 15cc for my bags http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff283/dcs12345/photobucket-5658-1330809197911.jpg Where did you get those bottles? Going to do the same with some royal purple. I would like to know as well. USPlastics.com has them pretty cheap. |
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No crazy at all. If you look through any thread about lube, you will see that tons of people are using synthetic motor oil. I use mobil one and generic synthetic, they both work great. I even make my "battle bottles" for my grip storage, gear pouches, and range bags/rifle cases: 3cc for the grips, 6cc for gear pouches, and 15cc for my bags http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff283/dcs12345/photobucket-5658-1330809197911.jpg Where did you get those bottles? Going to do the same with some royal purple. I would like to know as well. http://www.amazon.com/Plastic-Dropping-Bottles-30ml-pack/dp/B0026K1YCK/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1331417217&sr=8-12 |
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For corrosion protection on my handguns and BCG's I wipe them down with a light coat of FP10, wipe off the excess, then use motor oil as the lube.
Works great! |
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http://www.armalite.com/library/techNotes/tnote64.htm
Unfortunately the above link is no longer active. Technical Note 64 Alternate Cleaning and Lubrication Materials for Small Arms Background ArmaLite officials conducting small arms maintenance training in an allied nation were advised that Military and Police officers often use common cooking oil as a small arms cleaner and lubricant. A 4 ounce bottle of cleaning material common in Europe or America could cost as much as a weeks income for a laborer in much of the rest of the world. ArmaLite is concerned that improper cleaners and lubricants could threaten the performance of its rifles in critical moments. ArmaLite's staff has therefore conducted a preliminary study to identify inexpensive, effective small arms maintenance materials that are available worldwide. Findings: ArmaLite has consulted with Small Arms experts at Rock Island Arsenal and elsewhere, and has conducted preliminary evaluations of the materials they recommended: Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF) as a cleaner and light lubricant. ATF performs admirably as a carbon remover, and protects steel surfaces excellently ("Have you ever seen a transmission that's rusty inside?"). Twenty weight engine oil serves in an environment that is far more strenuous than normally found in small arms so it is normally quite successful. The Army authorities recommend synthetic oils such as Mobil 1. (In fact, one noted authority has used Mobil 1 as his personal firearm lubricant for over two decades.) No safe copper remover formulation has yet been identified, but government tests reveal that copper removal provides no advantage in a standard military arm. It may serve a useful purpose in cleaning the bore of a rifle meant for extremely precise fire, such as a sniper rifle. Recommendations: Employ ATF as a small arms cleaning agent, and follow with 20 weight synthetic motor oil as a lubricant. Until a commonly available alternate copper solvent is identified, employ a commonly available commercial copper solvent such as Hoppe's Number 9 on firearms intended for a high degree of accuracy. |
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I use whatever i have left from my oil changes. Right now its Pennzoil Fully Synthetic 5w-20 from my F-150.
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No crazy at all. If you look through any thread about lube, you will see that tons of people are using synthetic motor oil. I use mobil one and generic synthetic, they both work great. I even make my "battle bottles" for my grip storage, gear pouches, and range bags/rifle cases: 3cc for the grips, 6cc for gear pouches, and 15cc for my bags http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff283/dcs12345/photobucket-5658-1330809197911.jpg Where did you get those bottles? Going to do the same with some royal purple. I would like to know as well. http://www.amazon.com/Plastic-Dropping-Bottles-30ml-pack/dp/B0026K1YCK/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1331417217&sr=8-12 Thank you kindly. Do you folks think it would be an issue using an atomizer bottle such as this with motor-oil? |
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Been using 5w20 for years. Gonna try 10w40 for my next quart.
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I'm a Castrol man I got a quart of 0-30 recently. Seems to do the trick. Cheap, too. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Linky Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: No crazy at all. If you look through any thread about lube, you will see that tons of people are using synthetic motor oil. I use mobil one and generic synthetic, they both work great. I even make my "battle bottles" for my grip storage, gear pouches, and range bags/rifle cases: 3cc for the grips, 6cc for gear pouches, and 15cc for my bags http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff283/dcs12345/photobucket-5658-1330809197911.jpg Where did you get those bottles? Going to do the same with some royal purple. I would like to know as well. http://www.amazon.com/Plastic-Dropping-Bottles-30ml-pack/dp/B0026K1YCK/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1331417217&sr=8-12 Thank you kindly. Do you folks think it would be an issue using an atomizer bottle such as this with motor-oil? http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu170/sinowo/Make_up_tool/bottle3.jpg The oil is too thick for those, I've tried even thinning it down +1 for US Plastics I've started using a 50-50 mix of transmission fluid and mobil 1 as lube, works great. I also tried some "Ed's Red" as a cleaner but careful using it inside the house |
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No crazy at all. If you look through any thread about lube, you will see that tons of people are using synthetic motor oil. I use mobil one and generic synthetic, they both work great. I even make my "battle bottles" for my grip storage, gear pouches, and range bags/rifle cases: 3cc for the grips, 6cc for gear pouches, and 15cc for my bags http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff283/dcs12345/photobucket-5658-1330809197911.jpg Where did you get those bottles? Going to do the same with some royal purple. I would like to know as well. USPlastics.com has them pretty cheap. That is where I got them http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=25040&catid=530 They were 21 to 32ish cent each (not including shipping) I first poured the oil into another even larger bottle with very narrow dropper (don't know where I got it) Then used that to fill the small droppers from usplastics. |
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I've been using engine oil oil for more than a year. Superior to "gun oils" by all accounts.
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Great for lubing, but even the thinnest motor oils like 0w-40 gets quite thick in low temperatures, when compared to Break free CLP and similar products. Not MOBILE-1 synthetic it continues to work well at low temps. ...hot temps too. |
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Great for lubing, but even the thinnest motor oils like 0w-40 gets quite thick in low temperatures, when compared to Break free CLP and similar products. Not MOBILE-1 synthetic it continues to work well at low temps. ...hot temps too. Yep mobil 1 doesnt begin to thicken until -40* |
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I prefer to use grease, but I have a quart of Mobil-1 10w40, and I've used it on everything: pistols, shotguns, and rifles with nothing but acceptable results.
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: No crazy at all. If you look through any thread about lube, you will see that tons of people are using synthetic motor oil. I use mobil one and generic synthetic, they both work great. I even make my "battle bottles" for my grip storage, gear pouches, and range bags/rifle cases: 3cc for the grips, 6cc for gear pouches, and 15cc for my bags http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff283/dcs12345/photobucket-5658-1330809197911.jpg Where did you get those bottles? Going to do the same with some royal purple. I would like to know as well. USPlastics.com has them pretty cheap. That is where I got them http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=25040&catid=530 They were 21 to 32ish cent each (not including shipping) I first poured the oil into another even larger bottle with very narrow dropper (don't know where I got it) Then used that to fill the small droppers from usplastics. USPlastics sells a small funnel They sell lots of great little bottles and dispenser caps in different kinds of plastics which are more appropriate for hazardous chemicals |
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The method outlined by armalite is one ive actually known for a while.
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I've been thinking about trying Mobil1 on everyone's recommedation - what weight would be best? Heavier the better?
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I've been thinking about trying Mobil1 on everyone's recommedation - what weight would be best? Heavier the better? Thanks I think thinner is better. I'm using 0-30, but 20 would probably work well too. |
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All I use. If you are using something else, you are paying too much.
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What weight should I use? I use 5w-30 Okay thanks |
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I've been using automatic transmission fluid for about two years now. So far, it seems to work well in all temp ranges.
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Quoted: +1Any oil should work guys here like mobil 1 Car engines run tighter tolerances at much higher part speeds. Why wouldn't good engine oil work well on a gun? |
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Any oil should work guys here like mobil 1 Car engines run tighter tolerances at much higher part speeds. Why wouldn't good engine oil work well on a gun? Exactly. When i think o the ar-15 i think about a car engine. So of course my natural thought was if motor oil is for tight tolerence engines why not the AR-15 Best move I ever made. I put 360 rounds through my Mk18 last week is around 30 minutes and the lube didnt even look effected. By that time CLP will generally be nearly gone Did i mention according to the MSDS CLP is actually much more hazardous to our health than mobil 1 5w-30? CLP has a 1-2-1, mobil 1 0-1-0. |
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dexron mercon ATF...... lubes well, stands up to heat and frition, has detergent qualities that helps keep the bolt tail and bcg cleaner.
works well for me. |
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Can someone show me where to lube with motor oil? I'm new to AR's in fact I'm waiting on my first upper to come now (I already assembled the lower).
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Can someone show me where to lube with motor oil? I'm new to AR's in fact I'm waiting on my first upper to come now (I already assembled the lower). Thanks! Put a few drops on the cam pin area, a few drops on the gas rings through the exhause holes, and 1 drop on each of the sleds on the BOLT CARRIER. That should keep it running |
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Can someone show me where to lube with motor oil? I'm new to AR's in fact I'm waiting on my first upper to come now (I already assembled the lower). Thanks! Maintenance & Cleaning Forum tacked thread There's a pic there that shows lube points for the bolt carrier group. |
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I'll stick to STP. It's treated me well many years. I'm sure they're are a bunch out there though.
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I had a leftover bottle of amsoil 5w30 and have been using it for years, thats right, years. I'm thinking I may have to replace it end of this year.
I have leftover half quarts of mobil 1 from oil changes, and I believe thats what I will be using from now on. I recently started using mobil 1 synthetic grease as well. I'm pretty sure the little can of the stuff will last me the rest of my shooting days. just the grease stuck to the lid was enough to fill an old grease syringe, and that syringe of grease lasted me at least a couple years. it also has a red color to it, so its real easy to see where it is, and has remained. |
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if motor oil is so much better than gun oil
why hasn't anyone re-branded it as such? |
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if motor oil is so much better than gun oil why hasn't anyone re-branded it as such? how do you know they havent? also doesnt each company have its own formula? its all common but different as well? |
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