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Posted: 12/4/2012 10:57:37 PM EDT
Be warned, there's some nice NSFW pics sprinkled in along with the flying pics.
http://thebrigade.thechive.com/2012/12/03/vintage-flying-lowa-mix-of-crazy-and-huge-balls-88-photos/ |
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What is so dangerous about flying low? Avoid the trees but otherwise, what's the difference?
I understand why helicopters have trouble flying low - ground effects. No such issues with planes. Can anyone explain it? |
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These guys are the craziest. Water skiing with an airplane ..............
http://www.flyinglions.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38&Itemid=29 |
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^^ Yeah, I think that you'll have to stand on the brake pedal in order to be able to wash your wheels like they do.
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I've seen that one before and it's really cool BTW, the vid' I posted a couple above yours is an Aussie/Kiwi crew flying that Mosquito over Auckland after they re-built it for an American buyer. Kind'a-Sort'a sad that there's so few of them around these days... |
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These guys are the craziest. Water skiing with an airplane .............. http://chivethebrigade.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/vintage-flying-low-500-48.jpg?w=500&h=297 http://www.flyinglions.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38&Itemid=29 If any of you are curious as to where the line between ballsy and stupid is, check a few feet above these guys. |
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This one looks like it may have fucked that F4 up.... http://chivethebrigade.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/vintage-flying-low-500-40.jpg?w=500&h=342 That looks like an RAF roundel painted on the engine inlet, or a slight possibility it's an RAAF roundel. Australia leased some F-4's from 1970-1973 while the RAAF was waiting for it's F-111's to be delivered. |
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Many years ago we had an F-4 in our hanger that had about a three foot chunk missing from its reat stabilizer. Had vegetation spreads on the tear.
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Lots of low flying aircraft. Even one taken in Windsor. About the 4th last photo. But all interesting shots.
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What is so dangerous about flying low? Avoid the trees but otherwise, what's the difference? I understand why helicopters have trouble flying low - ground effects. No such issues with planes. Can anyone explain it? If you make a mistake you have zero time to correct. Altitude equals safety. |
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What is so dangerous about flying low? Avoid the trees but otherwise, what's the difference? I understand why helicopters have trouble flying low - ground effects. No such issues with planes. Can anyone explain it? If you make a mistake you have zero time to correct. Altitude equals safety. +1. And, ground effect is not an impediment to flying. It's simply a product of flying low (roughly within a rotor-disc distance above the ground). It actually lowers required power settings and makes flying / hovering very stable. In a very short version: Ground effect alters the airflow down into the rotor system. With the ground just under the helicopter, the induced flow (air coming down into the rotor system) is altered and reduced. This reduces drag on the blades, allowing the pilot to use less power to maintain a hover or to fly (to an extent, or to a certain speed). At roughly greater than a rotor disc above the earth, the flow of air through the rotor system is no longer altered by the ground, and the air becomes 'dirty' as it swirls back into the rotor system--thus requiring more power to maintain a hover. If you were to pick up off the ground in a hover that requires say 75% torque, and that gave you a very slow rate of ascent, you would climb straight up (with no forward airspeed) until you reached roughly a rotor disc distance above the ground. You would kind of level off at that point and probably start to descend until you got back into ground effect. If you are very stable and consistent, you can just sit there and yo-yo up and down back and forth between IGE and OGE (In ground effect Hover and Out of Ground Effect Hover) with no power changes--kinda neat. Ground effect also happens to fixed wing aircraft in the same way, and provides increased efficiency (lift) within roughly one wing-span distance above the ground. ETA Those are some of the coolest photos I've ever seen. |
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Awesome pics. Reminds me of the times I cleaned green residue off of dad's Ag-Cat prop at the end of the day (cropduster - semi retired). There were times when I cleaned tree leaves out of the oil cooler intake as well.
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In reality super high speed, low level passes are stupid and dangerous. I know of two USMC F18 pilots that ended their careers showing off.
The ground will always win. |
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Helicopters have trouble flying low? Whaaa? No. We fly low better than anyone. I can stop. Fly sideways, fly backwards, spin around, all while staying a foot or two over the ground. Ground effect helps the efficiency of our rotor system. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/akscott60/image-4.jpg I think he is talking about vortex ring state. |
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might just be compressed depth of field from using a telephoto lens that makes the trees appear closer to the F-4 than they really are...
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This one looks like it may have fucked that F4 up.... http://chivethebrigade.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/vintage-flying-low-500-40.jpg?w=500&h=342 |
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I saw one of these fly into NAS Millington TN when I was a kid. Vought F7U Cutlass. They were a piece of shit that killed too many pilots. http://chivethebrigade.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/vintage-flying-low-500-56.jpg?w=500&h=373 One of my earliest memories in life is one of these cartwheeling across the field right in front of me, killing the pilot. http://chivethebrigade.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/vintage-flying-low-500-1.jpg?w=500 Those F7U's did look cool though. Along with the Skyray. |
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Quoted: +1...who don't love a "jug" I just love the P-47. All time favorite airplane. |
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