Do the new transport laws apply to open carry also? I am not totally understanding the wording. The Open Carry and CCW section doesn't bring up vehicles, it only states that the permit holder maintains all open carry rights. Additionally, the transporting section states that a CCW permit holder may carry concealed in a car. The next part states a person without a permit may now transport a handgun loaded and uncased, just not concealed. So does this mean that a person with a CCW permit can open carry in a car?

I guess I don't really understand that part. Would a permit holder be able to open carry in a car and not have to worry if your jacket covers the holster? While a person without a permit would be forced to ensure they do not accidentally conceal said handgun? (and furthermore, does this allow for a "truck gun" of only the handgun variety?)

Yep, clear as mud ain't it!? In an ideal world it would mean that you can now open carry in a vehicle without a permit. But it appears once you get down to it, if it's on your hip in a car it can't be seen so is therefore concealed... There's another forum where people are saying they are going to Velcro their gun to the dashboard to be in compliance with the new law....all I got to say about that is...

I believe long guns will still need to be encased, unloaded..so yes, handguns for a truck gun...velcroed to your dash...

I'm sure someone will now be along shortly to correct me and in the process give you more information...good luck.

Here in Texas we must inform the officer we are carrying. In fifteen years I have had ONE officer disarm me. He was an idiot and quite honestly a poster child as to why it might be a good idea not to tell the officer you are carrying. I was carrying a 1911 and he gave me a ration of shit about why was I carrying it cocked? Then he proceeds to monkey fuck the gun trying to unload it-it's obvious the only gun he has ever messed with is the Sig he is carrying. As he is trying to get the pistol unloaded and completely focused on that task- thankfully.... I'm standing less than 2' away from a fully loaded FAL on the backseat of my truck...Really? If I'm so dangerous that you need to take my pistol why am I not ventilating your ass right now with a REAL gun? I damn near laughed in his face when he said, "For your safety and mine I'm going to disarm you".....I'm thinking, "Why am I not safe?" "Are you going to shoot me?" "I wasn't thinking about shooting YOU but if you are telling me I'm not safe with YOU around maybe I should"......The whole thing was idiocy.

Contrast that with a New Mexico officer that stopped me about three months ago. I tell him that I'm carrying a gun and he says, "Don't show me yours and I won't show you mine". We both chuckled.

Yes, Wisconsin will honor Minnesota permits, but not the other way around.

Fixed to reflect current reality.

Question for you guys. I am a Certified NRA pistol instructor, and also do private and group Defensive handgun training(Just getting started) I have some relitives in Wisconsin, and several of there friends who want to get qualified for their CCW, and want me to come out there and give a class in WI. Are there any issues with me going over into Wi. and giving them a class? Does it matter that I am from MN? I would think it shouldn't since the NRA is Nationally recognized. Also, would I have to give the class as a "NRA Instructor" and use the NRA curriculum, or can I teach them from my curriculum, and still have it qualify just because I am NRA certified? YOu guys get what I'm saying? KInd of hard to put into words

Your NRA creds allow you to instruct, period. They qualify under any interpretation of "National or state organization..."
The students will have to take your class in person* and whatever curriculum you use must be 4 hours long*.
Curriculum content really doesn't matter. The statutory requirement is for "firearms safety training" - so reloading class wont work, but anything else from the NRA will.





*current, proposed admin code rules - may change before 11/1/11

Thanks FMD!

DOJ has student and instructor manuals available now for WI LE Firearms Instructors. Glenn_R will likely be able to shed more light on anything, but the curriculum is 4 hours, deals with safety and legalities, and allows for a class to have additional instruction so long as the primary 4 hours are taught. If you get training that's less than 4 hours, great. This 4 hours is just the minimum standard to help ensure one understands operation of a handgun as well as legalities. I don't see anything negative at this point about the DOJ standards for LE to teach...

Thanks, gentlemen. I will be checking this link again Nov. 1 to confirm whether I'll be packing (legally) for Deer season again this year in your lovely state!

Update in the OP. McNielsen, you are GTG with your MN permit after 1/1/11.

You bastard. God damn stinking minnesotanz coming here to steal our cheese and oogle our womenz carrying before we can...

We need to erect a snow fence along the border.

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Thanks for the updated info. I am Iowan, I work and spend a lot of time in wisconsin so being able to carry across the river is good news.

This law takes effect on Nove 1st right? so I will be legal to carry in Wisconsin on Nov 1st? I carry now in Iowa, be nice to carry across the river right away and not wait any longer. I know a lot of you Wisconsin guys will have to wait to get your permits.

Yes it takes effect Nov. 1st, and if you have a current Iowa permit, yes you're good to go in WI too on Nov. 1st.

Thanks for the clarification.

was reading through the FAQ... two questions:

1) it's ok to carry in a parking lot, but not ok to carry on school grounds (which I'm assuming includes the school ground parking lot?) - how does that jive?

2) If a tavern offers food in addition to drinks, is it considered at restaurant? Not that it's a good idea to drink while carrying.. but this just seems goofy.

You may carry in a school zone (within 1000' feet) as a permit holder. I would assume you can carry in your vehicle, up to and including the parking lot while on school grounds. If you leave your vehicle while carrying and in the lot, I'd bet you're in trouble if caught.



I'd guess that if the establishment makes more than 51% of its revenue from liquor sales, no.



It IS goofy. The bill that passed was full of half-assed ideas that leave a lot up to the DOJ interpretation/LEO interpretation. It should have been more specific, one way or the other.

so, for q#1 - it's the effectively the same, just more confusing and open to LEO interpretation. ;)
as for q#2 - just going off their definition of Tavern. A restaurant that serves alcohol could be considered a tavern if it serves alcohol, regardless of the percentage. My thought train really is going at whether or not you _could_ have a beer in a _restaurant_ and not be in violation of the law... or if the loose definition of "tavern" effectively makes restaurants with liquor licenses a bunch of bars?

Will Wisconsin recognize my non-resident Utah permit? I see Utah on the list, but it doesn't specify. I live just over the border in IL and it would be nice to finally be able to carry in your state. Thanks!

Yes. The law doesn't differentiate between out of state resident and non-resident permits.


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we have to do the same thing in michigan. I was alway's told that if you are pulled over to tell the cop you have a cpl license,it will show up when he run's your drivers license.This way it look's like your not trying to hide the fact that you carry from him.

Just saw this. It's not OK to carry in a school parking lot even in your vehicle. Guns must be unloaded and encased if you're on school grounds, even with a CCW permit.

Operative word in blue. I stand corrected.

No issues, I just didn't want anyone to get in trouble.