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Shipping Loaded Ammunition in the United States
brillo  [Team Member]
Summary:

U.S. Postal Service (USPS) - Shipping ammo is prohibited.
United Parcel Service (UPS) - Shipping ammo permitted with packaging/weight/labeling qualifications.
Federal Express (FedEx) - Shipping ammo generally prohibited unless HazMat certified.



Details:

U.S. Postal Service (USPS): Shipping of Ammunition is Prohibited

Ammunition (Cartridges, small arms) is a nonmailable hazardous material. "Under no circumstances may any nonmailable hazardous material, restricted matter, or perishable matter be deposited for mailing."

Publication 52 - Hazardous, Restricted and Perishable Mail
Cartridges, small arms - Appendix A - Hazardous Materials



United Parcel Service (UPS):

1. Pack ammo within a sturdy cardboard box, gross weight limit of 66 pounds.
2. Print ORM-D label, cut out and tape to a least one side of box.
3. Take package to a UPS Customer Center only - NOT at Drop-Off Box, The UPS Store, Mail Boxes etc., Sonic. Might be a good idea to have the UPS Hazardous Material Support Center number with you -- 800-554-9964. Varied success with UPS pick-up at your location.

Per UPS:
UPS accepts domestic ground shipments of ammunition that have been classified by the shipper as "Cartridges, small arms", "ORM-D" (Other Regulated Material). The package must be properly marked according to the requirements of Title 49 of the Code of Federal Regulations (49 CFR). Contact the Hazardous Material Support Center at 800-554-9964 for details on regulatory information.



Federal Express (FedEx):

Per FedEx, 10/26/2006:
HazMat Training is required to qualify to ship all Hazardous Materials. Ammunition is a Hazardous Material. No Drop-Off, package must be picked up by FedEx. See How to Qualify.



Additional shipping information and procedures at CartridgeCollectors.org.


Label meets requirements of 49 CFR 172.316.
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H2O_MAN  [Team Member]
Thank you brillo - excellent information!
Docsprague  [Member]
According to UPS Hazardous Material Center, you can have ammunition picked up at your front door if you go through the trouble of setting up a UPS account. You still have to have the proper markings on the box. I am trying this out for the first time so if anyone else has any negative experience please cime in.
ar15gnocchi  [Member]
No other shipping services take live ammunition? I have seen people using FedEx as well. Just curious, thanks.
brillo  [Team Member]

Originally Posted By ar15gnocchi:
No other shipping services take live ammunition? I have seen people using FedEx as well. Just curious, thanks.


FedEx also will ship ammo, but it's been difficult getting consistent guidelines from them. My brother-in-law is the FedEx haz-mat specialist in Philadelphia and can't give me a conclusive answer. They require training and certification for accounts, but it's unclear if that applies to occasional individual shippers.
ml2150  [Team Member]
I ship ammo via fed ex frequently. I have a fed ex ground account...

In some instances, I've sent payment to the shipper, and then called Fed Ex to pick up the ammo at thier residence/job, provide all shipping labels + ORM-D tags. It cost an extra $7 for pickup, one box or one hundred.

I've also sent payment to sellers along with their form of payment + ORM-D tag + address label, and instruct the seller to take it to a bona fide Fed Ex (air or ground) location.


/ML/Drew
blackeye  [Team Member]


Where can you get these kind of labels? Can UPS provide them for you?

Les123  [Member]
Here is a source for ORM-D LabelsThanks - Les in Idaho
ml2150  [Team Member]

Originally Posted By blackeye:

Where can you get these kind of labels? Can UPS provide them for you?



I use MS Excel to make them. If you want I can email a sample to you (I have NO IDEA) how to post attachments/pictures

/ml/Drew
BOYSCOUT4LIFE  [Member]

Originally Posted By H2O_MAN:
Thank you brillo - excellent information!
+1 BoyScout4Life just what I was looking for...
Trout15  [Member]
I tried to ship some ammo today and was told I had to be an FFL and have HazMat permits. This was at a main UPS Customer Center that I've shipped Rifles at before.

Best luck with the rest of you shipping ammo.
brillo  [Team Member]

Originally Posted By Trout15:
I tried to ship some ammo today and was told I had to be an FFL and have HazMat permits. This was at a main UPS Customer Center that I've shipped Rifles at before.

Best luck with the rest of you shipping ammo.


The UPS employee was incorrect. UPS Hazmat suggests you have the agent call UPS Hazardous Materials Support Center at 1-800-554-9964. They will tell the agent the box must be securely wrapped, weigh no more than 66 pounds, must have an appropriate ORM-D label and should ship regular shipping.
blackeye  [Team Member]

Originally Posted By brillo:

Originally Posted By Trout15:
I tried to ship some ammo today and was told I had to be an FFL and have HazMat permits. This was at a main UPS Customer Center that I've shipped Rifles at before.

Best luck with the rest of you shipping ammo.


The UPS employee was incorrect. UPS Hazmat suggests you have the agent call UPS Hazardous Materials Support Center at 1-800-554-9964. They will tell the agent the box must be securely wrapped, weigh no more than 66 pounds, must have an appropriate ORM-D label and should ship regular shipping.


I had the same problem a few weeks back. The UPS Customer Center refused to send the package at first. I then told them I had been on their website and went by all their rules posted on said website. After several trips back and forth to her supervisor (who wouldn't come out and talk to me). She finally agreed to ship the package "this time". I responded," If your going to ship it this time, then there really is no problem shipping it next time, is there?"

After I got home, I called UPS Customer Service with my problem. They connected me with the UPS Hazardous Materials Support Center. I was told there should have been no problem with package. And if I were to run into a problem again to have the shipping agent call.

UPS Hazardous Materials Support Center 1-800-554-9964

I know I am repeating Brillo's comments but I thought sharing my experience with this problem would help. The next time I went to the UPS Customer Center to send another ammo shipment. The agent rolled her eyes at me. I handed her the index card with the above number on it and said " Here, call these people and they will let you know its OK". Problem solved.

As far as packaging, I just made sure it was taped well and printed with a majic marker ORM-D on all sides. No stickers were needed. They like your packages to not have any other markings or writing on them. If you are thinking about using a used box.



556guy  [Member]
Remeber that all of this goes out the window if your shipment cannot go ground. If you try shipping to HI for example, then UPS requires you to be a certified HazMat shipper.

ARexpert  [Member]
I thought loaded ammo can ship regular UPS ground without Hazmat fee's?
556guy  [Member]

Originally Posted By ARexpert:
I thought loaded ammo can ship regular UPS ground without Hazmat fee's?


Correct, no hazmat for loaded ammo if shipped ground.
Custom-X_Sponjah  [Member]
lol I packed 500rnds in a old Winchester box I had that I got 1000rnds of Q3131 shipped to me, and I just went to a UPS store and dropped it off. lol

The cute girl behind the counter never asked what i was shipping, Just that it was kinda heavy.....

Closest UPS Outlet was 30 miles away... The UPS Store was 1 mile away from work...

Could they get in trouble for accepting it a package marked ORM-D??

CXS
Les123  [Member]
The UPS store SHOULD NOT have taken this with a ORM-D label. You should either take it to the UPS shipping facility in your area, or give it to a UPS driver. Thanks - Les in Idaho.
TSLtrek  [Member]
What about shipping ammo into CA, IL, MA, NJ, NY, WDC? Checking most supplier's sites it seems like its a no-no. Maybe its not a problem for private sales...

ETA:
To answer my own questions...here is a good source of info...I only checked MA, but the buyer there has to have the proper license for it to be legal.

www.nraila.org/GunLaws/
-M60_Gunner-  [Team Member]
eta: Nevermind.
mjrowley  [Team Member]
What a wonderful thread!
rick_masters  [Member]
Hi, FYI. printed out orm-d tags from this thread after saving them to word. Person at ups said she did not think I could ship. Called the 800 # provided on this thread and she then said no problem. Easy as pie. The only problem was finding a UPS hub to ship from. Will they pick up ammo with pre-printed labels? can you pu it in drop box? Thanks.
Hayboy  [Member]
Just a thought? Do you need to require an adult sig or proof of age just to be safe?
ar_scooter1  [Member]
I have learned more about shipping small arms ammunition via FEDEX than I would like know.
I too had multiple answers from multiple people. Here is the poop.
FED-EX will ship small arms ammunition via ground only if you have an account, have the ORM-D /small arms ammunition label affixed, appropriate box ratings(I've learned more about cardboard than I would like to know, see ratings below),can not be a FED-EX box. I'm shipping out today, I'll see how it goes..... One more thing, it can only be shipped to a state that allows it.

FedEx Ground requires Fiberboard “Non-Specification Packaging” or “Strong
Outer Packaging” to meet the following requirements:
o For packages weighing up to 20 lbs. the outer package minimum
requirements will be a 200 lb. Bursting test or 32 Edge Crush test
package.
o For packages weighing 21-50 lbs. a 250 lb. Bursting test or 44 Edge
Crush test will be required.
o For packages weighing 51-70 lbs. the outer container must be 275 lb.
Bursting test or 55 Edge Crush test.
elohim1  [Member]
Can you ship Ammo USPS ???
Les123  [Team Member]
No, it is ILLEGAL to ship Ammo via US Post Office.
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