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Posted: 5/5/2013 7:58:28 AM EDT
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Maaaaaan! I always wanted to do a UMP conversion... :(
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Posted: 5/5/2013 9:10:07 AM EDT
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Heckler & Koch "We got some big things planned for 2014, we doubt you will be disappointed."
The ever elusive civi MP7? |
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Posted: 5/5/2013 10:16:17 AM EDT
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Heckler & Koch "We got some big things planned for 2014, we doubt you will be disappointed."
The ever elusive civi MP7? Or just civy UMP and G36 rifles that aren't bastardized versions in the way that the current USC and SL8 are. |
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Posted: 5/5/2013 10:24:27 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Heckler & Koch "We got some big things planned for 2014, we doubt you will be disappointed." The ever elusive civi MP7? Or just civy UMP and G36 rifles that aren't bastardized versions in the way that the current USC and SL8 are. That would be really, really nice. I also wish they would bring back the SL-6 and SL-7. Those were dead sexy. |
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Posted: 5/5/2013 4:16:33 PM EDT
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I don't normally hang out at HKPRO but there is a new post/thread stating the USC has been discontinued. I always wanted one, I think it comes from me walking away from a NIB HK94 ($750ish) back in the late 70's early 80's at a gun show. From the post: The factory has announced that the Heckler & Koch USC rifle has been discontinued. No further details available at this time. But, someone commented in the thread, "So after cruising HK's facebook I found this response to why the dropped the USC," Heckler & Koch "We got some big things planned for 2014, we doubt you will be disappointed." Don't fuck with me H&K. Don't fuck with me! 
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Posted: 5/5/2013 4:50:24 PM EDT
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Heckler & Koch "We got some big things planned for 2014, we doubt you will be disappointed."
The ever elusive civi MP7? I want one just to get one. 
I'd skip the G36 and UMP for an MP7 and a 10.4" MR556 upper. I really hope they have some cool stuff coming down the pipe, but I see more disappointment. |
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Posted: 5/5/2013 5:11:19 PM EDT
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Heckler & Koch "We got some big things planned for 2014, we doubt you will be disappointed."
The ever elusive civi MP7? I want one just to get one.
I'd skip the G36 and UMP for an MP7 and a 10.4" MR556 upper. I really hope they have some cool stuff coming down the pipe, but I see more disappointment. Someone on HKPro posted (rather hopefully I think) that it would be a civi MP7 in 9mm. God I hope so! |
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Posted: 5/5/2013 5:13:10 PM EDT
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Heckler & Koch "We got some big things planned for 2014, we doubt you will be disappointed."
The ever elusive civi MP7? I want one just to get one.
I'd skip the G36 and UMP for an MP7 and a 10.4" MR556 upper. I really hope they have some cool stuff coming down the pipe, but I see more disappointment. Someone on HKPro posted (rather hopefully I think) that it would be a civi MP7 in 9mm. God I hope so! THAT would be cool, although I've become cynical and it's probably just wishful thinking. |
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Posted: 5/6/2013 3:48:43 AM EDT
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Heckler & Koch "We got some big things planned for 2014, we doubt you will be disappointed."
The ever elusive civi MP7? I want one just to get one.
I'd skip the G36 and UMP for an MP7 and a 10.4" MR556 upper. I really hope they have some cool stuff coming down the pipe, but I see more disappointment. Basically - all of these things - right down to the seeing disappointment, unfortunately. ~Augee |
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Posted: 5/6/2013 7:23:01 AM EDT
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Quoted: That would be dead sexy.Someone on HKPro posted (rather hopefully I think) that it would be a civi MP7 in 9mm. God I hope so! |
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Posted: 5/6/2013 10:19:49 AM EDT
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If those polymer guns cost more than 2000 I will completely join the camp of "HK because you suck and we hate you" and then get an Sig mpx and Beretta arx100 to fill that hole in the safe.
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Posted: 5/6/2013 10:58:53 AM EDT
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Heckler & Koch "We got some big things planned for 2014, we doubt you will be disappointed."
Some editor forget the "not"??? |
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Posted: 5/6/2013 12:09:08 PM EDT
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It looks like the civy G36 and UMP prediction may have some merit. From another thread over there:
Attended nra in houston, stopped by the hk booth. I did not get the woman's name, but she stated that they were producing a civilian model of the g36 and it would be out by end of year. Then stated that if not it would be ready for shot show 2014, and that they would have more info coming in months ahead.
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Posted: 5/6/2013 12:46:30 PM EDT
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If those polymer guns cost more than 2000 I will completely join the camp of "HK because you suck and we hate you" and then get an Sig mpx and Beretta arx100 to fill that hole in the safe. Despite what other HK fans say, I honestly believe this is how HK feels. |
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Posted: 5/6/2013 1:40:07 PM EDT
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Maaaaaan! I always wanted to do a UMP conversion... :( me too. i guess thats what i get for screwing around |
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Posted: 5/6/2013 6:07:13 PM EDT
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Heckler & Koch "We got some big things planned for 2014, we doubt you will be disappointed."
The ever elusive civi MP7? I want one just to get one.
I'd skip the G36 and UMP for an MP7 and a 10.4" MR556 upper. I really hope they have some cool stuff coming down the pipe, but I see more disappointment. Someone on HKPro posted (rather hopefully I think) that it would be a civi MP7 in 9mm. God I hope so! THAT would be cool, although I've become cynical and it's probably just wishful thinking. That might be interesting. |
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Posted: 5/7/2013 4:38:59 AM EDT
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Given the current popularity of modern piston carbines I think a US made true G36 would sell pretty well if they kept the MSRP under $2000. It would really be great if they re-designed the US version to use AR15 magazines.
Now on the other hand I don't think a $1000+ .45 carbine that takes hard to find $100+ magazines would sell anywhere near as well. I doubt we'll ever see a true semi-auto HK UMP in the US, I am glad I spent the money to get one while I could. |
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Posted: 5/7/2013 7:00:23 AM EDT
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Latest word on HKPro is that a HK rep at the NRA show said they would be releasing a semi auto G36 for US civilian purchase in the next year. Will wait to see whether it will actually emerge.
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Posted: 5/7/2013 7:03:26 AM EDT
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I didn't think I was an optimist, but I have the strangest erection right now.
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Posted: 5/7/2013 8:48:24 AM EDT
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Latest word on HKPro is that a HK rep at the NRA show said they would be releasing a semi auto G36 for US civilian purchase in the next year. Will wait to see whether it will actually emerge. ....I still don't know how taking away a 45acp carbine and replacing it with a .223/5.56 rifle is even. I say that not really caring that much for the G36's though....They just seem so large to only be shooting a 5.56.. |
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Posted: 5/7/2013 9:16:37 AM EDT
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Latest word on HKPro is that a HK rep at the NRA show said they would be releasing a semi auto G36 for US civilian purchase in the next year. Will wait to see whether it will actually emerge. ....I still don't know how taking away a 45acp carbine and replacing it with a .223/5.56 rifle is even. I say that not really caring that much for the G36's though....They just seem so large to only be shooting a 5.56.. Have you ever held a 16" G36? It's not any bulkier than a SCAR or ACR. Weights about the same as the SCAR as well. |
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Posted: 5/7/2013 10:07:01 AM EDT
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Latest word on HKPro is that a HK rep at the NRA show said they would be releasing a semi auto G36 for US civilian purchase in the next year. Will wait to see whether it will actually emerge. ....I still don't know how taking away a 45acp carbine and replacing it with a .223/5.56 rifle is even. I say that not really caring that much for the G36's though....They just seem so large to only be shooting a 5.56.. Have you ever held a 16" G36? It's not any bulkier than a SCAR or ACR. Weights about the same as the SCAR as well. Yet I am also not a fan of the Scar16s. I think it is too big for the cartridge. That's why I do like the 17s. Just sayin'. I know it is a personal and individual preference but the rifle is big for the cartridge. |
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Posted: 5/7/2013 10:20:54 AM EDT
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Please oh please re-introduce the HK94 series
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Posted: 5/7/2013 1:12:10 PM EDT
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Please oh please re-introduce the HK94 series I has chub |
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Posted: 5/7/2013 1:16:20 PM EDT
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I think CDNN was closing those out before the latest rush. I got an SL8 at the time and like it.
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Posted: 5/7/2013 3:23:01 PM EDT
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Heckler & Koch "We got some big EXPENSIVE things planned for 2014, we doubt you will be disappointed." I filled in the missing word. |
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Posted: 5/7/2013 3:58:13 PM EDT
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Latest word on HKPro is that a HK rep at the NRA show said they would be releasing a semi auto G36 for US civilian purchase in the next year. Will wait to see whether it will actually emerge. ....I still don't know how taking away a 45acp carbine and replacing it with a .223/5.56 rifle is even. I say that not really caring that much for the G36's though....They just seem so large to only be shooting a 5.56.. The G36 would be cool. However the G36 falls a long way down the list of rifles I'd ever be interested in. Long past the SCAR, but one step up from the ARX-100. I personally hope it's a civi version of the MP7. With the slight revival of the SMG (MPX, Taurus SMG, B&T APC9) and the lack of enthusiasm over the UMP in general I think an MP7 would be an awesome addition. However, I'm probably thinking too global and not looking through the lens of H&K's US civilian marketing team. It would be easily importable as a pistol and I hope this is the direction they go after removing a PCC from their lineup. |
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Posted: 5/7/2013 9:51:45 PM EDT
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Latest word on HKPro is that a HK rep at the NRA show said they would be releasing a semi auto G36 for US civilian purchase in the next year. Will wait to see whether it will actually emerge. ....I still don't know how taking away a 45acp carbine and replacing it with a .223/5.56 rifle is even. I say that not really caring that much for the G36's though....They just seem so large to only be shooting a 5.56.. The G36 would be cool. However the G36 falls a long way down the list of rifles I'd ever be interested in. Long past the SCAR, but one step up from the ARX-100. I personally hope it's a civi version of the MP7. With the slight revival of the SMG (MPX, Taurus SMG, B&T APC9) and the lack of enthusiasm over the UMP in general I think an MP7 would be an awesome addition. However, I'm probably thinking too global and not looking through the lens of H&K's US civilian marketing team. It would be easily importable as a pistol and I hope this is the direction they go after removing a PCC from their lineup. I for one don't feel like tracking down 4.6x30 ammunition for an MP7. |
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Posted: 5/8/2013 5:31:14 AM EDT
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Latest word on HKPro is that a HK rep at the NRA show said they would be releasing a semi auto G36 for US civilian purchase in the next year. Will wait to see whether it will actually emerge. ....I still don't know how taking away a 45acp carbine and replacing it with a .223/5.56 rifle is even. I say that not really caring that much for the G36's though....They just seem so large to only be shooting a 5.56.. The G36 would be cool. However the G36 falls a long way down the list of rifles I'd ever be interested in. Long past the SCAR, but one step up from the ARX-100. I personally hope it's a civi version of the MP7. With the slight revival of the SMG (MPX, Taurus SMG, B&T APC9) and the lack of enthusiasm over the UMP in general I think an MP7 would be an awesome addition. However, I'm probably thinking too global and not looking through the lens of H&K's US civilian marketing team. It would be easily importable as a pistol and I hope this is the direction they go after removing a PCC from their lineup. I for one don't feel like tracking down 4.6x30 ammunition for an MP7. I would think that once a platform was available in the caliber, if they released it in that caliber, that manufacturers would start selling it. Like 5.7x28MM, it would likely never be extremely common, but it would be available. It would be interesting if they released one in 5.7, honestly, though I don't see that happening, or perhaps, as has been suggested, in a 9MM variant. ::shrug:: We'll see... I think U.S. G36 is more likely, but I remain guardedly hopeful about an MP7 that I won't be able to afford anyways, but I can dream about one day winning the lottery and obtaining.
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Posted: 5/9/2013 9:37:35 AM EDT
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I don't normally hang out at HKPRO but there is a new post/thread stating the USC has been discontinued. I always wanted one, I think it comes from me walking away from a NIB HK94 ($750ish) back in the late 70's early 80's at a gun show. From the post: The factory has announced that the Heckler & Koch USC rifle has been discontinued. No further details available at this time. But, someone commented in the thread, "So after cruising HK's facebook I found this response to why the dropped the USC," Heckler & Koch "We got some big things planned for 2014, we doubt you will be disappointed." I think HK realized that people were spending some serious Coin on making the USC a UMP and Decided to get in on the action. HK had better not be going to do some "Fuckery" with this one don't screw with us HK don't screw with us!! Glock Had a "Big Announcement" turned out to be some online site or something "FUCK THEM and their little site" don't go Glock HK DONT GO GLOCK!!! Now a current production G36 in the USA OH HELL YES. Saving money now.
Current Production UMP in 9mm in the USA OH HELL YES. Saving money now. 
MP7 in 9mm in the USA Eh OK  But more power to ya.
A G36 or Even Better XM8 would be the shit for me!!!! I bet the UMP in the usa will be $2500 by the time all is said and done. |
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Posted: 5/9/2013 4:33:33 PM EDT
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I don't normally hang out at HKPRO but there is a new post/thread stating the USC has been discontinued. I always wanted one, I think it comes from me walking away from a NIB HK94 ($750ish) back in the late 70's early 80's at a gun show. From the post: The factory has announced that the Heckler & Koch USC rifle has been discontinued. No further details available at this time. But, someone commented in the thread, "So after cruising HK's facebook I found this response to why the dropped the USC," Heckler & Koch "We got some big things planned for 2014, we doubt you will be disappointed." I think HK realized that people were spending some serious Coin on making the USC a UMP and Decided to get in on the action. HK had better not be going to do some "Fuckery" with this one don't screw with us HK don't screw with us!! Glock Had a "Big Announcement" turned out to be some online site or something "FUCK THEM and their little site" don't go Glock HK DONT GO GLOCK!!! Now a current production G36 in the USA OH HELL YES. Saving money now.
Current Production UMP in 9mm in the USA OH HELL YES. Saving money now.
MP7 in 9mm in the USA Eh OK But more power to ya.
A G36 or Even Better XM8 would be the shit for me!!!! I bet the UMP in the usa will be $2500 by the time all is said and done. That will be relegated to the annals of small arms history. Cool piece but an evolutionary dead end. I'd be more interested to see what HK has "next". A semi-popular rifle from the 90s, an M4 upper based on that rifle, and a dead-end rifle that was also based on that same rifle are all neat, but there has to be something NEW. Despite all the flaws, the ACR was new. As is the ARX-160/100 and the SCAR series. I've heard rumors of new stuff at SOFIC as well. I want to see HKs innovation. (And hypocritically I also want a US made 416D upper and an MP7 ).
ETA: Yeah, I totally agree. That Glock website thing was an absolutely overblown letdown. |
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Posted: 5/10/2013 7:38:34 AM EDT
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Scar is a Redone FNC.
Hate to break it to you, but an ACR is very much like a G36/XM8 The ACR uses an Aluminum Upper with Steel Rails and Trunion Bolted and pinned in place. The G36/XM8 uses a steel skeleton with rails and trunion molded into the upper. Ever wonder why Magpul didn't just mold in place the steel rails and trunion into a Plastic upper using their high density plastic. I believe they couldn't the process is patented. The ACR has a lot of design commonalities with the G36/XM8. I want to see and handle an ARX160/AR100. It does look promising, But I want to see one before I judge. HK Will Sell every G36 or XM8'ish Weapon they make in the USA. Period. Heck even if they chamber the MP7 in 9mm they will sell all they make here. Too many fan boys for them not to. I would buy an MP7 in 9mm and a UMP in 9mm and a G36/XM8'ish gun in 556, if for sale in the USA BUT you know what I really Want I mean HK comes to me says "what do you want rotorblade we will make it for you". OK Heckler and Koch XM8 Chambered in 6.8 SPCII, Mid Length 16" barrel, have Magpul build the magazines, Get Aimpoint, Trijicon, Eotech, Laser Devices Inc, and Surefire on board to build optics and accessories that will include the PCAP Mounting interfaces. OK got that boys AND Break. Get to work. Yes I know Its an absolute and TOTAL DREAM. But hey I can dream can't I. |
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Posted: 5/10/2013 7:54:36 AM EDT
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I dont see them doing a G36 just because they have the 416. it would be like if Chevy said "lets make the all new 1988 camaro"
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Posted: 5/10/2013 8:11:08 AM EDT
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I dont see them doing a G36 just because they have the 416. it would be like if Chevy said "lets make the all new 1988 camaro" Plenty of companies have multiple similar product lines. |
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Posted: 5/10/2013 2:12:35 PM EDT
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BUT you know what I really Want I mean HK comes to me says "what do you want rotorblade we will make it for you". OK Heckler and Koch XM8 Chambered in 6.8 SPCII, Mid Length 16" barrel, have Magpul build the magazines, Get Aimpoint, Trijicon, Eotech, Laser Devices Inc, and Surefire on board to build optics and accessories that will include the PCAP Mounting interfaces. OK got that boys AND Break. Get to work. Yes I know Its an absolute and TOTAL DREAM. But hey I can dream can't I. What, really? I mean, hey, you're dream's your dream, and you're entitled to it... Neverminding the whole 6.8 vs. 5.56 vs. 6.5 vs. ad nauseam debate, the 12.5" barreled XM8 was already the same length as the 14.5" barreled M4, you'd be looking at something roughly the length of an SPR, IMHO, and my opinion alone, but it's too long to even bother with unless it's going to be an SBR, and for the stock design, you can't even fold the stock or adjust the comb. And IIRC they never really did get the PCAP to work very well at all - accessories could barely stay on, much less hold zero. MagPul already makes G36 magazines - and where the hell would you propose to put a PCAP interface EOTech or ACOG on an XM8 anyways? Or, for that matter, an IR laser - the ISM was generally considered to be pretty mediocre overall, and I'm an Insight fan. Not sure what your shooting style is, but the XM8 is also extremely poorly configured up front for the "3-Gun" grip that's so popular. ::shrug:: your dream. You'd pay over $3,000 retail for a too long rifle that looks like the bastard love-child from a one nigh stand between a G36 and an FS2000 that there would be no sensible way to mount any decent accessories to. ~Augee |
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Posted: 5/10/2013 6:20:07 PM EDT
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I think CDNN was closing those out before the latest rush. I got an SL8 at the time and like it. Yes, $1399 pre-panic, buy, don't buy, buy, don't buy, I missed out. Despite the downsides of the SL8, for the $1399 closeout price it is a nice rifle. Fingers crossed HK is going to bring us something good in 2014. |
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Posted: 5/11/2013 2:41:48 PM EDT
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An SL-6 or SL-7 would be nice, although a longshot................a modernized G-43 would be cool. I missed out on those when they were for sale
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Posted: 5/11/2013 3:08:35 PM EDT
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An MP-7 would be cool as well In 9mm. |
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Posted: 5/11/2013 8:31:08 PM EDT
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Anyone know more about the thread on hkpro
About a civillian g36 rumor from the nra show It got deleted |
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Posted: 5/12/2013 4:27:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ronin556:
Anyone know more about the thread on hkpro About a civillian g36 rumor from the nra show It got deleted It was considered such baseless speculation they deleted it. It was writen and discussed in such a way that they felt it might reflect poorly on h&K if the speculation turned out to be incorrect. They didn't want to ding H&K because someone construed something a rep hinted at. |
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Posted: 5/13/2013 6:52:35 AM EDT
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I would love to see a G36 come to market. The availability of the G-Mags from Magpul helps considerably as well.
A UMP, G36, or MP7 DIY Form 1 pistol would also be acceptable. It would be awesome to see HK embrace that segment. |
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Posted: 5/13/2013 11:04:32 PM EDT
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Maaaaaan! I always wanted to do a UMP conversion... :( I drink H&K kool-aid, but I think this is one of their problems. And it's probably export/import laws, and restrictions I don't know about- but their SL8 and USC- most people do want to covert them. They are already expensive items, and then you have to fork over more money, because you just want a stock that looks like their counter-parts that we know and love. |
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Posted: 5/14/2013 3:15:32 PM EDT
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Since were doing wet dreams, I thought Id chime in
Mp7 but only if they would support a SBR option (they dont have to sell it direct (I assume they wouldnt anyway) but maybe a part to add the stock.) Never played with one but I assume from the looks of it the stock can be replaced with an end cap much like the MP5 can be. If they sold the stock separately Id be happy. It also would be better in 9mm due to ammo availability (5.7 is hard enough to find and too expensive to justify hence why I never bought a P90) I would not want to see a G36 (selfish reason, I already have one via Tom Bostic build) However, Id also like to see the XM8. Since they never made any money on it in sales I wouldnt mind seeing one and would be interested in buying it. Would make sense to recoup some R&D money. But at the end of the day, I dont think theyll support us C3 lovers like Sig or to a lessor extent FN... Dreams are fun!
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Posted: 5/14/2013 4:37:17 PM EDT
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If HK has any hope of maintaining a semblance of market share, they need to start making their polymer receivers in the US, and give the US market FINISHED rifles like G36 and UMP. There are more SL8s and USCs converted into clones, than those left in original configuration.
Look at how many people are willing to sink nearly five Gs into a converted clone, when the original costs about 1/3rd of that price. Give them a finished gun under Two and they'll not only buy another one, they'll tell their friends to buy one. How about a civilian XM8? They should be looking for some way to recover all the R&D money sank into that failure, right? HK's facebook page just angers me. All I ever see them posting is FA government only guns. |
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Posted: 5/14/2013 4:48:52 PM EDT
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If HK has any hope of maintaining a semblance of market share, they need to start making their polymer receivers in the US, and give the US market FINISHED rifles like G36 and UMP. There are more SL8s and USCs converted into clones, than those left in original configuration. Look at how many people are willing to sink nearly five Gs into a converted clone, when the original costs about 1/3rd of that price. Give them a finished gun under Two and they'll not only buy another one, they'll tell their friends to buy one. How about a civilian XM8? They should be looking for some way to recover all the R&D money sank into that failure, right? HK's facebook page just angers me. All I ever see them posting is FA government only guns. I doubt a civi XM8 would even cover the production costs, much less the R&D costs. There are lots of evolutionary dead ends in all industries, lots in the firearms world. It's relatively easy to make a few prototypes, but stupid expensive to put into production. I think you'd be surprised to see all the one-offs in the gun industry that don't make it anywhere. Most just don't have the level of exposure and the US Army's R&D money going into it that the XM8 did. Plus, I agree totally wholeheartedly with Augee on this one. It'd be cool, but only cause it's the gun Gen Petreaus apparently was toting around Iraq even though no one else has one. The only reason to get an XM8 is the mystic it has, and that mystic is gone if you can actually buy one. The gun is a relic of the R&D process, not a viable long-term platform. I'm sure a company like H&K can bring out something that is actually a step forward. |
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Posted: 5/14/2013 5:31:43 PM EDT
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I doubt a civi XM8 would even cover the production costs, much less the R&D costs. There are lots of evolutionary dead ends in all industries, lots in the firearms world. It's relatively easy to make a few prototypes, but stupid expensive to put into production. I think you'd be surprised to see all the one-offs in the gun industry that don't make it anywhere. Most just don't have the level of exposure and the US Army's R&D money going into it that the XM8 did. Plus, I agree totally wholeheartedly with Augee on this one. It'd be cool, but only cause it's the gun Gen Petreaus apparently was toting around Iraq even though no one else has one. The only reason to get an XM8 is the mystic it has, and that mystic is gone if you can actually buy one. The gun is a relic of the R&D process, not a viable long-term platform. I'm sure a company like H&K can bring out something that is actually a step forward. Next thing youre gonna do is tell me there's no such things as Santa or the tooth fairy didnt leave me money all those times...
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Posted: 5/15/2013 5:17:48 PM EDT
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Latest word on HKPro is that a HK rep at the NRA show said they would be releasing a semi auto G36 for US civilian purchase in the next year. Will wait to see whether it will actually emerge. ....I still don't know how taking away a 45acp carbine and replacing it with a .223/5.56 rifle is even. I say that not really caring that much for the G36's though....They just seem so large to only be shooting a 5.56.. The G36 would be cool. However the G36 falls a long way down the list of rifles I'd ever be interested in. Long past the SCAR, but one step up from the ARX-100. I personally hope it's a civi version of the MP7. With the slight revival of the SMG (MPX, Taurus SMG, B&T APC9) and the lack of enthusiasm over the UMP in general I think an MP7 would be an awesome addition. However, I'm probably thinking too global and not looking through the lens of H&K's US civilian marketing team. It would be easily importable as a pistol and I hope this is the direction they go after removing a PCC from their lineup. I for one don't feel like tracking down 4.6x30 ammunition for an MP7. Midway has Fiocchi FMJ, and has for some time. It was even consistently available through the current round of craziness (one of the benefits of niche calibers). I'm sure more guns in that caliber would mean more companies stepping up and making it. |
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