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Originally Posted By rob99rt: Well, I loaded up 10 rounds of my cut/reformed brass with Wolf SRM primers, 8.7 grains of Lil Gun, and for bullets the 230 grain lead bullets I cast using a Lee 300 blackout-specific mold (lead's a mix of wheel weights, a little bit of 50/50 solder, some buckshot (I've got about 200 lbs of coarse buckshot that was given to me), and a bit of linotype. Hope they feed just fine when I try them out tomorrow. Not sure what the accuracy will be. These are the few cases that I didn't anneal yet, so we'll see how they do. Heck, if I can just get them to feed, go bang, and hold back the bolt on the last round I'll be happy. Shot them yesterday and everything went well. None of them were supers, all of them ejected nicely, didn't appear to be over pressured, and it locked the bolt back on the last round despite running a Spikes tungsten-filled buffer. I dug one of the rounds out of the tree trunk I was shooting at and it was pretty mangled. Also, there does appear to be a little bit of lead in the barrel, so I may not have had enough lube on them. I'll have to play with it. As far as accuracy goes, I was just shooting off-hand standing, but they all hit within about 4" of each other at the target around 50 yards away (using Aimpoint PRO), so I didn't think that was too bad. It's definitely minute-of-pie-plate. |
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Thanks for the report.
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Tried posting this in the normal reloading section first see how it works here.
I will have almost everything I need this Friday in order to put together my 300 AAC Upper (DPMS Complete upper, Noveske 1-7" match Barrel , and YHM Free Float Tube, the AAC 51T brake is unfortunately back ordered for now). I have no expectation to find any factory ammo, and .30 caliber bullets are hard enough to come by that I figured I'd try shooting cast bullets until I get my Can or can get my hands on some bulk .30 caliber projectiles for normal prices. I currently have the Lee 230 grain tumble lube mold and am looking to get the Lee .30 cal 120 grain gas checked mold. So what alloys, lube, mold or anything else did you use? How fast did you push them, ect? As always any help/advice/insight is always appreciated! Lamale PS Can will be an AAC 7.62SD (waiting for my stamp to come back), thoughts on shooting lead through this can? |
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Originally Posted By lamale:
Tried posting this in the normal reloading section first see how it works here. I will have almost everything I need this Friday in order to put together my 300 AAC Upper (DPMS Complete upper, Noveske 1-7" match Barrel , and YHM Free Float Tube, the AAC 51T brake is unfortunately back ordered for now). I have no expectation to find any factory ammo, and .30 caliber bullets are hard enough to come by that I figured I'd try shooting cast bullets until I get my Can or can get my hands on some bulk .30 caliber projectiles for normal prices. I currently have the Lee 230 grain tumble lube mold and am looking to get the Lee .30 cal 120 grain gas checked mold. So what alloys, lube, mold or anything else did you use? How fast did you push them, ect? As always any help/advice/insight is always appreciated! Lamale PS Can will be an AAC 7.62SD (waiting for my stamp to come back), thoughts on shooting lead through this can? Can't help you with any info as I'm still waiting on getting some parts to finish my upper, but there's a place about 90 minutes from me that has a large selection of reloading supplies in stock. The only downside I noticed is, check Midway's price and add $10 on pretty much everything but hey it's IN STOCK. I got 100 Hornady cases, 100 225gr Hornady Match bullets, and 50 Barnes 1110gr Tipped Triple Shock bullets for like $170. Not real sure since I bought an Encore while I was in there and receipt is in the truck outside. The only downer is the dang drive. Now I just need to find some dies in stock since I keep missing them on here. |
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Originally Posted By lamale: Tried posting this in the normal reloading section first see how it works here. I will have almost everything I need this Friday in order to put together my 300 AAC Upper (DPMS Complete upper, Noveske 1-7" match Barrel , and YHM Free Float Tube, the AAC 51T brake is unfortunately back ordered for now). I have no expectation to find any factory ammo, and .30 caliber bullets are hard enough to come by that I figured I'd try shooting cast bullets until I get my Can or can get my hands on some bulk .30 caliber projectiles for normal prices. I currently have the Lee 230 grain tumble lube mold and am looking to get the Lee .30 cal 120 grain gas checked mold. So what alloys, lube, mold or anything else did you use? How fast did you push them, ect? As always any help/advice/insight is always appreciated! Lamale PS Can will be an AAC 7.62SD (waiting for my stamp to come back), thoughts on shooting lead through this can? I sent you to this thread so you could read the shooting casting bullets posts already here and posted. |
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Barrel ordered. Dies ordered. Dillon trim dies ordered. Bullet order pending finding out what I want to order/availability. Mounds of .223/5.56 brass in hot standby. Suppressor about 6 months out.
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Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
ok this is an Idea im working on.. cant get a Sub to expand? All lead with crap up your can? Gas check might come off and kill your can? How about a half jacket? nice good copper cup to get a great seal and keep leading to a min. and a nice WW hardness lead for a tip? These are at 179 gr weight, Didnt want to make new cores and used what was on hand. http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/9729/img07441s.jpg i will be doing a 220 gr one soon and give them a try in the gel. My experimenting with trying to get WW cast to expand at sub velocities, has resulted in very little success unless hollow pointed. Even using a softer lead at the tip of both the NOE 247 and the Lee 235 did not give any better results at subsonic velocities. Now when I hollow pointed one of the cavities of the Lee mold I started getting great expansion. So just a theory, if you were able to HP your set up I could see a very effective and cleaner combination. Man I wish I had your tooling |
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Originally Posted By garyd:
Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
ok this is an Idea im working on.. cant get a Sub to expand? All lead with crap up your can? Gas check might come off and kill your can? How about a half jacket? nice good copper cup to get a great seal and keep leading to a min. and a nice WW hardness lead for a tip? These are at 179 gr weight, Didnt want to make new cores and used what was on hand. http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/9729/img07441s.jpg i will be doing a 220 gr one soon and give them a try in the gel. My experimenting with trying to get WW cast to expand at sub velocities, has resulted in very little success unless hollow pointed. Even using a softer lead at the tip of both the NOE 247 and the Lee 235 did not give any better results at subsonic velocities. Now when I hollow pointed one of the cavities of the Lee mold I started getting great expansion. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/gdsjr/reloading%20stuff/0126131114b.jpg So just a theory, if you were able to HP your set up I could see a very effective and cleaner combination. Man I wish I had your tooling Heh they are HP'ed. About .097 in diameter. |
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Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
Originally Posted By garyd:
Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
ok this is an Idea im working on.. cant get a Sub to expand? All lead with crap up your can? Gas check might come off and kill your can? How about a half jacket? nice good copper cup to get a great seal and keep leading to a min. and a nice WW hardness lead for a tip? These are at 179 gr weight, Didnt want to make new cores and used what was on hand. http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/9729/img07441s.jpg i will be doing a 220 gr one soon and give them a try in the gel. My experimenting with trying to get WW cast to expand at sub velocities, has resulted in very little success unless hollow pointed. Even using a softer lead at the tip of both the NOE 247 and the Lee 235 did not give any better results at subsonic velocities. Now when I hollow pointed one of the cavities of the Lee mold I started getting great expansion. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/gdsjr/reloading%20stuff/0126131114b.jpg So just a theory, if you were able to HP your set up I could see a very effective and cleaner combination. Man I wish I had your tooling Heh they are HP'ed. About .097 in diameter. Well in that case if you need a beta tester |
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Would you ladder test the same distance for 300 blackout as any other rifle?
I'll be loading some 125g Pro Hunters with LIL'Gun and since it should be no more than 2200 FPS, would 200 yards be good enough? |
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Question, Im loading .300BLK for one rifle and one rifle only. I trim my cases to 1.350. Max trim being 1.368. Once fireformed to that barrel throat, do I need to trim after that? In theory I would think the case would only expand to the beginning of the rifiling lands.
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Barrel arrived today.
Didn't think I'd get a chance to buy one for a while with the craziness going on now. Next: Upper build and brass development. I should be ready for summer. |
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I just got my pulled 147 grains.... anyone have a good starting point for H110? Closest I see on Hodgdon's page is 17.3g for 135 grain bullets.
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I gave up on H-110 with 147 gr FMJ's. 17.5 grs blows primers in my rifle. Work up carefully, one minute everythings fine, then blown primers. Much better is Lil'Gun. I'm using 15.0.
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JC what length barrel is that from?
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Originally Posted By richiemfmead:
JC what length barrel is that from? 16" CMMG WASP using a 3-9X40 Vortex Crossfire scope. I've since built a 10.5" pistol, but the weather went to crap before I could do any serious work with it. |
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Awesome thanks for the info dryflash and JC!
I will probably load up a few different loads around that range and see. I've got 3 pounds of H110, so I'll be using it for a while. If I can ever find it in stock I'll give the lil gun a try as well. |
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Originally Posted By psbarger:
Awesome thanks for the info dryflash and JC! I will probably load up a few different loads around that range and see. I've got 3 pounds of H110, so I'll be using it for a while. If I can ever find it in stock I'll give the lil gun a try as well. well you could load up a bunch of 44 mag, call it a wash and get some new powder. |
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I have found accurate loads with H-110 with 110 and 125 gr bullets. Any thing heavier I use Lil'Gun or AA-1680.
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Originally Posted By dryflash3:
I have found accurate loads with H-110 with 110 and 125 gr bullets. Any thing heavier I use Lil'Gun or AA-1680. how are you liking the Barnes? been wanting to try a box of them but never got around to getting one.. |
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They shoot very well.
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I have a 16" Noveske barrel with pistol length gas and I'm thinking about using a Surefire MB762 and my 762SS can on it?
Any thoughts from you guys that know? I have some Rem 220gr and 125gr ammo If it works out I'll start loading my own. |
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If the weather holds I'm going to Chrony and check accuracy of a couple of 125 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip loads tomorrow. I want to see the difference between my 16" and 10.5" guns.
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So I took 200 rounds of 110g sierra varmiter over 18.9g lilgun, with factory crimp. Accuracy has shot through the roof. Was getting a foot plus at 50 yards. Now i'm at 100 yards with a 4 in group. Factory crimp die makes all the difference.
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Does anyone have any data on 200g hpbt subsonic loads? I was looking at hogdgon site but they jump from 150 to 220 then 230, closest I could find in stock were 200s so I bought a few hundred. I know I technically could start at minimum at the 220 load but don't own a chronograph and want to be sure i'm sub sonic. I'm using lil gun btw.
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Built my upper last night except a flash hider/muzzle brake.
With a 5/8" X 14 TPI muzzle, what should I put on there? I will be suppressing it, but not sure with what just yet. Thanks. |
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Originally Posted By richiemfmead: So I took 200 rounds of 110g sierra varmiter over 18.9g lilgun, with factory crimp. Accuracy has shot through the roof. Was getting a foot plus at 50 yards. Now i'm at 100 yards with a 4 in group. Factory crimp die makes all the difference. How much of a crimp are you putting on them with the FCD? I think I over-crimped my first batch of 230 grain lead bullets with it because they were somewhat difficult to chamber if I tried to ride the CH down. If I let it fly it was fine, but still.... Of course, if I didn't put a heavy crimp on them the bullet would slide back into the case mouth, too, so I'd rather have a heavy crimp than a lot of bullet set back... |
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I'm putting a max crimp on them as im using non cannelure bullets, to the point the die collets are actually touching. Its my first with a factory crimp die so i'm still learning how much its to much and how to tell. Fyi i'm having the same issue, I have to let the charging handle fly from full pill to chamber round one. If I release from lock with the bolt catch the round gets hung half fed. This its with both lancer and p mags.
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When you use a FCD, you want the collets to only close about half way.
You are way, way over crimping. |
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Got my BLK brass making down, friday is production time
Now I need a upper and a 30 cal can |
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Originally Posted By 98cobra:
Got my BLK brass making down, friday is production time Now I need a upper and a 30 cal can i haz 2 of those things already picked out 4 loads from this thread to start out with. |
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Bump for SMK 210 g w/lilgun subsonic load data. Trying to get some rounds put together before Saturday, Im going to a indoor range to try out a can for my 11in ar.
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Originally Posted By bm3:
Well I went out today to see if I was getting good expansion with the 110gn Vmax and the Barnes 110gn black tip and after a lot of digging this is what I got http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/Mike_Boles/7C985F12-E8E5-4C39-A9B8-BDB5FC1C6ACE-755-0000012ACCBC3A7C_zps48c30621.jpg http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/Mike_Boles/93A83785-58A9-4DCF-8F2F-E9D699189FCF-755-0000012AC4A8BA41_zps89bd8585.jpg LC case 19 gn of lil gun CCi 450 The Barnes bullet still weighs 108gns What did the Vmax weigh? |
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Originally Posted By bm3:
Well I went out today to see if I was getting good expansion with the 110gn Vmax and the Barnes 110gn black tip and after a lot of digging this is what I got http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/Mike_Boles/7C985F12-E8E5-4C39-A9B8-BDB5FC1C6ACE-755-0000012ACCBC3A7C_zps48c30621.jpg http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/Mike_Boles/93A83785-58A9-4DCF-8F2F-E9D699189FCF-755-0000012AC4A8BA41_zps89bd8585.jpg LC case 19 gn of lil gun CCi 450 The Barnes bullet still weighs 108gns WOW, that Barnes bullet looks great. That being said the varmint bullet is supposed to be explosive. I wonder if it would self-destruct as violently in a softer target medium. |
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Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX:
Originally Posted By bm3:
Well I went out today to see if I was getting good expansion with the 110gn Vmax and the Barnes 110gn black tip and after a lot of digging this is what I got http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/Mike_Boles/7C985F12-E8E5-4C39-A9B8-BDB5FC1C6ACE-755-0000012ACCBC3A7C_zps48c30621.jpg http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/Mike_Boles/93A83785-58A9-4DCF-8F2F-E9D699189FCF-755-0000012AC4A8BA41_zps89bd8585.jpg LC case 19 gn of lil gun CCi 450 The Barnes bullet still weighs 108gns What did the Vmax weigh? 21.2 Gns |
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Originally Posted By bm3: Well I went out today to see if I was getting good expansion with the 110gn Vmax and the Barnes 110gn black tip and after a lot of digging this is what I got http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/Mike_Boles/7C985F12-E8E5-4C39-A9B8-BDB5FC1C6ACE-755-0000012ACCBC3A7C_zps48c30621.jpg http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/Mike_Boles/93A83785-58A9-4DCF-8F2F-E9D699189FCF-755-0000012AC4A8BA41_zps89bd8585.jpg LC case 19 gn of lil gun CCi 450 The Barnes bullet still weighs 108gns My Tac-TX load is 20.0 grs Lil'Gun with RP cases and Win SR primers. Sure are some pretty loads. Different barrel, components, ect. Your recovered bullet pic is a good example of the difference between a premium hunting bullet and a varmint bullet. Well done.
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Originally Posted By bm3:
Well I went out today to see if I was getting good expansion with the 110gn Vmax and the Barnes 110gn black tip and after a lot of digging this is what I got http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/Mike_Boles/7C985F12-E8E5-4C39-A9B8-BDB5FC1C6ACE-755-0000012ACCBC3A7C_zps48c30621.jpg http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/Mike_Boles/93A83785-58A9-4DCF-8F2F-E9D699189FCF-755-0000012AC4A8BA41_zps89bd8585.jpg LC case 19 gn of lil gun CCi 450 The Barnes bullet still weighs 108gns Awesome! I love Barnes bullets and was interested in seeing something like this. Thanks for posting pics. ETA: What kind of velocity are you getting from those loads? And on a side note, does anyone know how the 110 grn. TSX would compare to TAC-TX? |
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Originally Posted By R14:
Originally Posted By bm3:
Well I went out today to see if I was getting good expansion with the 110gn Vmax and the Barnes 110gn black tip and after a lot of digging this is what I got http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/Mike_Boles/7C985F12-E8E5-4C39-A9B8-BDB5FC1C6ACE-755-0000012ACCBC3A7C_zps48c30621.jpg http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/Mike_Boles/93A83785-58A9-4DCF-8F2F-E9D699189FCF-755-0000012AC4A8BA41_zps89bd8585.jpg LC case 19 gn of lil gun CCi 450 The Barnes bullet still weighs 108gns Awesome! I love Barnes bullets and was interested in seeing something like this. Thanks for posting pics. ETA: What kind of velocity are you getting from those loads? And on a side note, does anyone know how the 110 grn. TSX would compare to TAC-TX? At the time I tested these they were running around 2300 fps in a 18in Wilson combat barrel. I had the barrel cut down to 15 so im not sure now. |
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Originally Posted By bm3:
Originally Posted By R14:
Originally Posted By bm3:
Well I went out today to see if I was getting good expansion with the 110gn Vmax and the Barnes 110gn black tip and after a lot of digging this is what I got http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/Mike_Boles/7C985F12-E8E5-4C39-A9B8-BDB5FC1C6ACE-755-0000012ACCBC3A7C_zps48c30621.jpg http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/Mike_Boles/93A83785-58A9-4DCF-8F2F-E9D699189FCF-755-0000012AC4A8BA41_zps89bd8585.jpg LC case 19 gn of lil gun CCi 450 The Barnes bullet still weighs 108gns Awesome! I love Barnes bullets and was interested in seeing something like this. Thanks for posting pics. ETA: What kind of velocity are you getting from those loads? And on a side note, does anyone know how the 110 grn. TSX would compare to TAC-TX? At the time I tested these they were running around 2300 fps in a 18in Wilson combat barrel. I had the barrel cut down to 15 so im not sure now. Thanks for the info, I appreciate it. Mine will be out of a 16", so hopefully it will be pretty close. |
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Originally Posted By Captain_Howdy:
Originally Posted By bm3:
Well I went out today to see if I was getting good expansion with the 110gn Vmax and the Barnes 110gn black tip and after a lot of digging this is what I got http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/Mike_Boles/7C985F12-E8E5-4C39-A9B8-BDB5FC1C6ACE-755-0000012ACCBC3A7C_zps48c30621.jpg http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x332/Mike_Boles/93A83785-58A9-4DCF-8F2F-E9D699189FCF-755-0000012AC4A8BA41_zps89bd8585.jpg LC case 19 gn of lil gun CCi 450 The Barnes bullet still weighs 108gns WOW, that Barnes bullet looks great. That being said the varmint bullet is supposed to be explosive. I wonder if it would self-destruct as violently in a softer target medium. You know at my gun shop they sell the compounds to make jell so I think I might run some test with a wide selection of 300blk bullets. |
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does anyone know what the fastest FPS anyone has safely shot 115gr BLK bullets? i have a 115gr projectile i'm looking to get going very fast.
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