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Posted: 5/18/2014 8:18:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GWhis:
I don't know the answer to Effenpig's question.....companies change every month it seems, but I'm pretty sure DonKey153's picture doesn't show a PTX, just the feeder die and what looks like one of the two inner cylinders for it. Unless Hornady redesigned it split in three pieces, the inner cylinder got broken??? The picture below is a picture of the PTX (powder thru expander) that used to come with the feeder dies. http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/120x90/primary/458/458388.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GWhis:
Originally Posted By DonKey153:
Originally Posted By Effenpig:
Does anybody knowIif the hornady bullet feeder die still comes with the power through expander die? It doesn't say anything about it in the description that I saw I apologize if this was covered somewhere between pages 3 and 6 of this thread, I tried to read it all but I'm too tired  mine did, bought it last week. here's a pic of it from today. <a href="http://s69.photobucket.com/user/DonKey153/media/20140517_212426_zps81524436.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i43/DonKey153/20140517_212426_zps81524436.jpg</a> I don't know the answer to Effenpig's question.....companies change every month it seems, but I'm pretty sure DonKey153's picture doesn't show a PTX, just the feeder die and what looks like one of the two inner cylinders for it. Unless Hornady redesigned it split in three pieces, the inner cylinder got broken??? The picture below is a picture of the PTX (powder thru expander) that used to come with the feeder dies. http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/120x90/primary/458/458388.jpg The ptx expander is still in the powder measure, but it did come with one as of last week. |
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Posted: 5/18/2014 9:22:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RLR350:
In reference to the PTX die coming with the bullet feeder die, yes they do. I ended up with a few extra because it usually doesn't say it in the description, so I bought the expandera separately when I purchased the feeder dies. The PTX is not in the above picture. That looks like the two collets (A & B) with one broken in two pieces and the other still in tact.. Agreed, GWHIS has posted a picture of one and that collet is toast. |
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Posted: 5/18/2014 9:40:12 AM EDT
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great thread.............. and tag for me.
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Posted: 5/19/2014 4:41:57 PM EDT
[#4]
Thanks for the confirmation guys
just ordered the bullet feeder die but can't seem to find the tubing on linen n things. I'll see if lowes has anything thanks again |
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Posted: 5/19/2014 6:31:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rugby3:
Agreed, GWHIS has posted a picture of one and that collet is toast. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rugby3:
Originally Posted By RLR350:
In reference to the PTX die coming with the bullet feeder die, yes they do. I ended up with a few extra because it usually doesn't say it in the description, so I bought the expandera separately when I purchased the feeder dies. The PTX is not in the above picture. That looks like the two collets (A & B) with one broken in two pieces and the other still in tact.. Agreed, GWHIS has posted a picture of one and that collet is toast. To their credit, I got a shipping notice within 24hours of my email to them about it. |
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Posted: 5/19/2014 6:56:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Effenpig:
Thanks for the confirmation guys just ordered the bullet feeder die but can't seem to find the tubing on linen n things. I'll see if lowes has anything thanks again Check out pet stores that sell aquarium supplies. That is where I've bought mine. |
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Posted: 5/20/2014 8:48:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GWhis]
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Effenpig:
Thanks for the confirmation guys just ordered the bullet feeder die but can't seem to find the tubing on linen n things. I'll see if lowes has anything thanks again Great deals never last. It would appear that Linens N Things quit selling Lee Clear Thinwall Rigid Tubing. The best source I can find on the internet is at Pet Mountain. Only to get the free shipping you have to have a minimum order of $75. Too bad.....shipping is a major cost when you have a small order like tubing. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2014 6:10:06 PM EDT
[#8]
FYI Just found this all, and ordered the tubing from pet mountain, they have the tubing for 40%-58% marked down now in case you need more/are looking http://www.petmountain.com/product/pond-plumbing-parts/11442-504991/lees-lees-thinwall-rigid-tubing-clear.html
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Posted: 5/21/2014 7:41:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Effenpig]
[#9]
Got the bullet feeder today and as promised it did come with the PTX . Cleaned up the collects with some 400 grit paper and they work great. Going to head to the petstore next
Edit: well no joy at the pet store I have to say though, even without the tubing I really like the using bullet feeder |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/22/2014 1:55:15 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drfroglegs: I've got the same setup with 45 and it works great. I used a 1/2" ID pipe from lowes (it's black) and sanded one end so it fits into the die. I also bought an extre set of internal parts from Hornady and sanded/expanded them so I could load lead bullets too (since the lead is 0.001" larger). So yes, it can and has been done in 45. Note: I hand load cases in since I'm tired of f-in large/small primer problems with the 45.... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drfroglegs: Originally Posted By strahd_zarovich: Originally Posted By TeeRex: This is very cool. I'd be interested in a few other sizes too. 38/357 and 45ACP would be nice too, but the theory should work the same once you found the right tube. I've got the same setup with 45 and it works great. I used a 1/2" ID pipe from lowes (it's black) and sanded one end so it fits into the die. I also bought an extre set of internal parts from Hornady and sanded/expanded them so I could load lead bullets too (since the lead is 0.001" larger). So yes, it can and has been done in 45. Note: I hand load cases in since I'm tired of f-in large/small primer problems with the 45.... I'm having a problem with .45. When the tube is full, I get 2 bullets droped, when the tube is nearly empty, none. Did you have this trouble? How did you get around it? |
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Posted: 5/22/2014 9:34:38 PM EDT
[#11]
Just rigged up my AP with this bullet feed system. So far the test runs work. Will run it full bore in the morning
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Posted: 5/23/2014 6:28:27 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TXN_Infidel:
Just rigged up my AP with this bullet feed system. So far the test runs work. Will run it full bore in the morning You're going to dig it! It's amazing how much faster you can run with this set up. Especially when placing smaller projectiles like 9mm. Make up a handful of tubes ahead of time and go. |
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Posted: 5/23/2014 10:02:42 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rugby3:
You're going to dig it! It's amazing how much faster you can run with this set up. Especially when placing smaller projectiles like 9mm. Make up a handful of tubes ahead of time and go. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rugby3:
Originally Posted By TXN_Infidel:
Just rigged up my AP with this bullet feed system. So far the test runs work. Will run it full bore in the morning You're going to dig it! It's amazing how much faster you can run with this set up. Especially when placing smaller projectiles like 9mm. Make up a handful of tubes ahead of time and go. I hope so! I have one tube made and two more that I just need to get cotter keys for. This system plus my new FA primer tube filler are really going to speed up the process. |
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Posted: 5/29/2014 9:40:27 PM EDT
[#14]
Tubing for 9mm came today. Got it all set up. I had previously set up the feeder die but i was curious to see how it would run with full tubing.
Fed 115gr plated, 124gr coated lead and 147gr coated lead perfect Thanks to the OP and everyone else who contributed. This setup is sweet
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NY, USA
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Posted: 6/30/2014 2:10:09 PM EDT
[#15]
I found this thread and I think its great. I ordered my tubes from the petstore mentioned above.
Right now, I have to ask if this will help me with this problem I'm having: The bullet get stuck in the die sometimes. I am using 9mm and 40 S&W. I am hand feeding it with about 4-5 bullets at the time. Do I need to raise the shell plate? Thank you |
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Posted: 6/30/2014 2:25:35 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gorji: I found this thread and I think its great. I ordered my tubes from the petstore mentioned above. Right now, I have to ask if this will help me with this problem I'm having: The bullet get stuck in the die sometimes. I am using 9mm and 40 S&W. I am hand feeding it with about 4-5 bullets at the time. Do I need to raise the shell plate? Thank you Most of my feed issues are reolved by backing out the top part of the die and loosening the mid lock ring. |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 6/30/2014 3:27:14 PM EDT
[#17]
check a few previous posts and make sure the collets are burr-free and opened wide enough.....this is a repeating problem. Hornady's machining isn't quite up to rocket parts.
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Posted: 6/30/2014 5:35:58 PM EDT
[#18]
Before you start dinking with your feed die's collets, make sure you've adjusted them correctly. Double and triple check. I've gotten my .45 feeder die to feed lead bullets without a problem - but I really had to tinker with the die's adjustments to let it do so.
The Hornady instructions are pretty darn good, but only after you get all the parts identified. That messed me up quite a bit at first. Pay close attention to the last part of the instructions...read page 13 of Hornady's manual for specific instructions for adjusting the die. Sometimes, it's not the collets being adjusted that is important. Sometimes it's the whole die. |
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Posted: 6/30/2014 6:31:34 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gorji:
I found this thread and I think its great. I ordered my tubes from the petstore mentioned above. Right now, I have to ask if this will help me with this problem I'm having: The bullet get stuck in the die sometimes. I am using 9mm and 40 S&W. I am hand feeding it with about 4-5 bullets at the time. Do I need to raise the shell plate? Thank you I adjust my top collet so when standing alone the bullet will just drop through freely. I adjust the bottom collet so when standing alone it will just hold a bullet. I use a flat head screwdriver to spread the collet or pliers to squeeze it depending on which it needs. I reassemble the die and screw the top down until it just touches the collet plus a smidge. Then a put a shell in the shellplate and slowly adjust it down, each time raising the shellplate, until the bullet drops. I only adjust it when switching from copper to lead or vice versa since I adjusted the bullet feeder this way I have had 1 stoppage in about 5000 rounds and that was from a deformed plated bullet |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 7/4/2014 5:52:15 AM EDT
[#20]
Thanks everybody. How nice of everyone to help a beginner.
I got my tube and did some adjustments as mentioned. It all works well now. This is for 9mm. For my 40 S&W, what size tube should I use as the bullets are too small for the tube? |
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Posted: 7/4/2014 10:01:03 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gorji: Thanks everybody. How nice of everyone to help a beginner. I got my tube and did some adjustments as mentioned. It all works well now. This is for 9mm. For my 40 S&W, what size tube should I use as the bullets are too small for the tube? Just normal business here in the Reloading Forum. We have a great bunch of guys who hang out here. This is a technical forum, very different from a forum like GD (general discussion) where the game is to make fun of posters. Do some reading at the top of the page for great reloading info. Welcome.
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IA, USA
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Posted: 7/4/2014 10:43:39 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gorji:
Thanks everybody. How nice of everyone to help a beginner. I got my tube and did some adjustments as mentioned. It all works well now. This is for 9mm. For my 40 S&W, what size tube should I use as the bullets are too small for the tube? 7/16" OD for 9mm, 1/2" OD for .40 and 9/16" OD for .45. This is for the Lee thin wall rigid tubing. |
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Posted: 7/4/2014 1:16:02 PM EDT
[#23]
Got my Hornady bullet feed die. I think there may be a problem with the colletts.
Bullets will not drop through them. This is a .45 die with .451 colletts. They hang up just a little in the 'B' collett, but will not pass through the 'A' collett without being forced. Looking in the 'A' collet, there is a ring at about the midpoint that appears to be the issue. Is this ring supposed to be in there or did I just get a bad collett? |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 7/5/2014 12:22:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GWhis]
[#24]
Bullets should fall through the top (B) collet but not the bottom one (A) until a case forces the fingers out.
Please read the following post: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/349969__28_00_Bullet_feeder_for_Any_Progressive.html&page=8#i4011856 It should explain what you need to know. If that doesn't do it for you, post back. 
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Posted: 7/5/2014 1:05:22 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GWhis: Bullets should fall through the top (B) collet but not the bottom one (A) until a case forces the fingers out. Please read the following post: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/349969__28_00_Bullet_feeder_for_Any_Progressive.html&page=8#i4011856 It should explain what you need to know. If that doesn't do it for you, post back. There is a burr in the bottom collet that is causing the bullets to hang up. I will hit the hardware store tomorrow for some very fine sand paper. All I have on hand is 180 grit and coarser. |
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Posted: 7/5/2014 7:08:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VacaDuck:
There is a burr in the bottom collet that is causing the bullets to hang up. I will hit the hardware store tomorrow for some very fine sand paper. All I have on hand is 180 grit and coarser. |
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Posted: 7/7/2014 10:51:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: VacaDuck]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHPorter: Use emery cloth, not sandpaper. You want to remove as little material as possible. You can find Dremel polishing and sanding drums with all sorts of grits, including fine emery cloth. I'd use this in a variable speed drill, not a Dremel, so I could control the speed better. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHPorter: Originally Posted By VacaDuck: There is a burr in the bottom collet that is causing the bullets to hang up. I will hit the hardware store tomorrow for some very fine sand paper. All I have on hand is 180 grit and coarser. Now I just have to find somewhere other than ebay that has 9/16" tubing. |
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Posted: 7/8/2014 2:02:30 PM EDT
[#28]
Pet Mountain got the 9/16" tubing back in stock. Ordered 4 of those and a 5/8".
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Posted: 7/10/2014 8:18:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/11/2014 8:02:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By river_rat:
7/16" OD for 9mm, 1/2" OD for .40 and 9/16" OD for .45. This is for the Lee thin wall rigid tubing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By river_rat:
Originally Posted By gorji:
Thanks everybody. How nice of everyone to help a beginner. I got my tube and did some adjustments as mentioned. It all works well now. This is for 9mm. For my 40 S&W, what size tube should I use as the bullets are too small for the tube? 7/16" OD for 9mm, 1/2" OD for .40 and 9/16" OD for .45. This is for the Lee thin wall rigid tubing. Has anyone noticed a change in the Lee's 9/16" tubing ID? I have some that I ordered a while back that will nest neatly around the 1/2" tubing, which makes size adjustment very easy, but the 9/16" that I ordered just recently seems to be just a hair thicker-walled, such that the 1/2" tubing won't slide into it without using substantial force, and sometimes won't fit at all. All of the other sizes seem unaffected and still nest together easily. It's just the 9/16" that seems to have changed for some reason. |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 9:43:04 AM EDT
[#31]
I'm working on getting this setup for my LnL so I'm hoping someone can help me out with the hitch pin clips.
The only size listed for the hitch pin clip is 5/8" but when I search my local hardware store's website I'm not finding a hitch pin clip listed as just 5/8". The sizes I'm finding are like 3/32" x 1-5/8". The bullet feeder die is arriving tomorrow and I wanted to get the hitch pin clips today so if someone would reply ASAP I would really appreciate it. Thanks. |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 11:25:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: VacaDuck]
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Matt_B: I'm working on getting this setup for my LnL so I'm hoping someone can help me out with the hitch pin clips. The only size listed for the hitch pin clip is 5/8" but when I search my local hardware store's website I'm not finding a hitch pin clip listed as just 5/8". The sizes I'm finding are like 3/32" x 1-5/8". The bullet feeder die is arriving tomorrow and I wanted to get the hitch pin clips today so if someone would reply ASAP I would really appreciate it. Thanks. The 3/32" x 1 5/8" clip should work fine. It'll be a bit on the small side though. Just bend it open a little to make it easier to install and remove. |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 12:30:49 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VacaDuck: A 5/8" hitch pin clip will fit a 1/2" to 5/8" bolt or pin. The 3/32" x 1 5/8" clip should work fine. It'll be a bit on the small side though. Just bend it open a little to make it easier to install and remove. |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 2:13:40 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Matt_B: I understand exactly what I need now. Thank you. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Matt_B: Originally Posted By VacaDuck: A 5/8" hitch pin clip will fit a 1/2" to 5/8" bolt or pin. The 3/32" x 1 5/8" clip should work fine. It'll be a bit on the small side though. Just bend it open a little to make it easier to install and remove. |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 8:43:13 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Matt_B: I ended up having to get 3/32" x 2 5/16" because that was the closest size my local hardware store had in stock. Hopefully they'll work but if not, I'll adapt. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Matt_B: Originally Posted By Matt_B: Originally Posted By VacaDuck: A 5/8" hitch pin clip will fit a 1/2" to 5/8" bolt or pin. The 3/32" x 1 5/8" clip should work fine. It'll be a bit on the small side though. Just bend it open a little to make it easier to install and remove. |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 9:52:11 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VacaDuck: Those will work out fine. Just spread the ends apart a bit or you'll damage the tube. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VacaDuck: Originally Posted By Matt_B: I ended up having to get 3/32" x 2 5/16" because that was the closest size my local hardware store had in stock. Hopefully they'll work but if not, I'll adapt. |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 8/21/2014 2:52:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dryflash3]
[#37]
lmao
This is a Technical Forum, not GD. dryflash3 |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 3:01:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Matt_B]
[#38]
I received my tubes yesterday and found out this morning that I need to cut them down a few inches because my ceiling is a little low. Is there anything I need to know about cutting these tubes? Seems like a hacksaw/fine toothed saw blade will work fine.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/4/2014 11:23:39 PM EDT
[#39]
Ok... Midway got my money. $201 for pistol bullet feeder on "clearance". I am tired of filling tubes. While this was a great idea, it just wasn't my cup of tea. Also, I had a few tube mishaps (falling out of die). PITA to pick up 50+ bullets.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 9/5/2014 12:29:22 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By djryan13:
Ok... Midway got my money. $201 for pistol bullet feeder on "clearance". I am tired of filling tubes. While this was a great idea, it just wasn't my cup of tea. Also, I had a few tube mishaps (falling out of die). PITA to pick up 50+ bullets. This one? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/5/2014 8:01:02 AM EDT
[#41]
Exactly... cheapest I have seen it.
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kevin_Jensen:
Originally Posted By djryan13:
Ok... Midway got my money. $201 for pistol bullet feeder on "clearance". I am tired of filling tubes. While this was a great idea, it just wasn't my cup of tea. Also, I had a few tube mishaps (falling out of die). PITA to pick up 50+ bullets. This one? |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 9/5/2014 11:12:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GWhis]
[#42]
Good price....I paid a lot more when it first came out. I like the simplicity of the tool....not much to go wrong when you get past the short learning curve.
Is it perfect? No. I haven't found a reloading tool that is, but you can make it work way better with very little effort. Making the Hornady Bulet Feeder Feed Faster With a little 12 gage copper from a piece of Romex it feeds fast enough to keep up. Yes the long spring tubes are unwieldy, and when loaded feels like a live snake, and yes if not placed just so, the spring can flop out of the die and spill bullets, BUT that problem can be solved by adding some support. I went the next step by.......... Adding a stop switch and some see through. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/5/2014 12:12:06 PM EDT
[#43]
Awesome tips. Thanks!
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GWhis:
Good price....I paid a lot more when it first came out. I like the simplicity of the tool....not much to go wrong when you get past the short learning curve. Is it perfect? No. I haven't found a reloading tool that is, but you can make it work way better with very little effort. Making the Hornady Bulet Feeder Feed Faster With a little 12 gage copper from a piece of Romex it feeds fast enough to keep up. Yes the long spring tubes are unwieldy, and when loaded feels like a live snake, and yes if not placed just so, the spring can flop out of the die and spill bullets, BUT that problem can be solved by adding some support. I went the next step by.......... Adding a stop switch and some see through. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 9/17/2014 2:15:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dryflash3]
[#44]
Delete
Started new thread with question. Thanks, dryflash3
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Posted: 9/17/2014 2:42:11 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HardwarePro: Just wondering: Has anyone been able to use this to make a rifle version of the $28 bullet feeder? Mr.BulletFeederDie It would obviously not be $28 anymore. Please start your own thread if you want to discuss this. This is the $28 thread. Thanks dryflash3 |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 3:03:32 PM EDT
[#46]
Interesting point: you can use an RCBS bullet feeder collator to feed into Hornady bullet feed dies. At least with the .45s and .38/9mm feed tubes and .45 and 9mm dies. Tried it out because I wound up finding a Hornady .45 feed die in Cabella's Bargain Cave for a price I couldn't pass up.
But... I'm not going to try using that RCBS collator to feed LEAD bullets. I AM going to use the $28 Feeder for lead bullets. I've done it with .45 cal 230gr LRN bullets without a snag - the bullet feeder die does need to be adjusted a bit for the slightly larger diameter lead bullets. Here's a related question: anyone find a way to make ANY of these feed systems feed .30 caliber (.308 - .312 diameter) bullets? It would be AWESOME if I could automatically feed bullets into .30 Carbine cases, .32 Auto or 7.62mm Tokarev cases... I'm pretty sure I can make either the .38 (.357") RCBS setup feed Makarov bullets, but I haven't tried yet, lacking those bullets at the moment. |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 9:52:33 PM EDT
[#47]
Just wanted to say thanks for sharing this great idea. I'm using it on my Pro 1000 (I don't resize/prime on that press) and it works GREAT. Has sped up my reloading quite a bit.
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Posted: 9/19/2014 8:38:48 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GWhis:
Do let us know if you solved the dilemma. Thanks, this got my feeder working perfectly. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2014 5:25:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/16/2014 5:37:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI would have to agree. Milled aluminum tubes would be easier to use because they're sturdier, but they can't be as inexpensive as clear plastic tubes. |
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